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LED turn Signals

This is just a topic for some conversation, and to get different points of view.
I've seen guys putting LED turn signals in their stock signal housings & lenses.

My question is: Why?

Having said that, I'm in the process of replacing my front lights (headlight and spotlights) with LEDS, but that's a different topic.

I guess I don't understand the point the changing out the turnsignals. For those applications, the LED replacements aren't any brighter, and since they're behind colored lenses, the whiteness isn't an issue. Lower power draw? Pfft, bike generates it's own, you're not paying the light company.

So beyond the "cool" factor, why do it?


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Lower amp draw leaves power for more add on goodies.
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Counter point to that argument: Most applications need to put in a dummy load resister to correct the turn signal flasher, thus consuming the same draw as an incandescent bulb.

The smart ones find the adjusted signal flashers.


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Counter point to that argument: Most applications need to put in a dummy load resister to correct the turn signal flasher, thus consuming the same draw as an incandescent bulb.

The smart ones find the adjusted signal flashers.
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Counter point to that argument: Most applications need to put in a dummy load resister to correct the turn signal flasher, thus consuming the same draw as an incandescent bulb.

The smart ones find the adjusted signal flashers.

Install a new electronic flasher. I have LEDs in the back and standard bulbs in the front. No load resisters.

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This is just a topic for some conversation, and to get different points of view.
I've seen guys putting LED turn signals in their stock signal housings & lenses.

My question is: Why?

Having said that, I'm in the process of replacing my front lights (headlight and spotlights) with LEDS, but that's a different topic.

I guess I don't understand the point the changing out the turnsignals. For those applications, the LED replacements aren't any brighter, and since they're behind colored lenses, the whiteness isn't an issue. Lower power draw? Pfft, bike generates it's own, you're not paying the light company.

So beyond the "cool" factor, why do it?

I did a little research:
1.) LED's are not as subject to failure due to vibration as a stock bulb.
2.) LED's do shine brighter in direct view.
3.) LED's are on much faster than halogen.
4.) LED's run much cooler than stock or after-market halogen.
5.) LED's last longer.


Cons ?
1.) COST ! ---especially for good ones (number of LED's per panel, where greater is better).
2.) May not be plug-n-play.
3.) May require the purchase and installation of a load resistor.



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LED Stands for Light Emitting Diode. LEDs are bright but use very little power, typically only 26mA of current per LED. LEDs produce extremely low amounts of heat, are high impact resistant, and come in waterproof enclosures. The Average Life of an LED is approximately 100,000 hours or 10 years of continuous use, much longer than conventional light bulbs. In addition, LEDs look cool and give your bike a unique custom look.

LEDs illuminate approximately 20% faster than conventional bulbs. Because LEDs illuminate faster, this may provide greater reaction time for vehicles approaching you.


LEDs are very intense but also very directional, meaning the light beam does not diverge. Although most of the newer LEDs have wider viewing angles, it is still important to use as many LEDs as you can fit in your housing. If you are replacing your turn signal or tail light with LEDs, we suggest that you look for an LED Kit first, if one is not available for your model bike, then measure the diameter of the housing and select the largest LED Cluster that is available. You will get the best results from using the most LEDs.


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http://www.customdynamics.com/led_mo...hting_faqs.htm


Back when I was considering LED's for my bike I did a lot of research and discovered that LED's are brighter than stock bulbs, but there was discussion/concern (on this site) regarding using them for brake lights, that they have a weakness when viewed at an angle. I bought a set of LED signals and sure enough, they were much brighter viewed from directly behind, however they were weaker than stock when viewed from an angle. Because of this, I personally switched out my LED's with Halogen bulbs, that are brighter than stock, but don't have the angle weakness. This was years ago, so perhaps the newer LED's have overcome some of the viewing angle issues?

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Some good discussion.

About the flasher. Yep, I already have one ordered. I'm already planning to change out the incandescent bulbs for LED, for most of the reasons stated here already. I'll be experimenting with a couple different types.


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Or you could just run my $75 headlight (10 min install and 4400 lumen) and stay with standard bulbs in TS. They work fine. If really needing to save a few watts get LED TS bulbs and an electronic flasher. Run a Kisan Signal Minder in mine.

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This is just a topic for some conversation, and to get different points of view.
I've seen guys putting LED turn signals in their stock signal housings & lenses.

My question is: Why?

Having said that, I'm in the process of replacing my front lights (headlight and spotlights) with LEDS, but that's a different topic.

I guess I don't understand the point the changing out the turnsignals. For those applications, the LED replacements aren't any brighter, and since they're behind colored lenses, the whiteness isn't an issue. Lower power draw? Pfft, bike generates it's own, you're not paying the light company.

So beyond the "cool" factor, why do it?
It's a bit more than "cool factor", actually. The bike BARELY generates enough power to recharge the battery, with normal lights on the bike, so if you use LEDs, then there is some "extra" power available to use for other accessories. Plus, IMHO, it keeps the battery charged better, with less drain in the first place, so you don't need to do as much "management" or "maintaining" of the battery. Some may not see it that way, but I do. When the weather is really cold (sub-freezing temps), those electric gloves I have make a HUGE difference in the comfort of the ride.

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I bought a set of LED signals and sure enough, they were much brighter viewed from directly behind, however they were weaker than stock when viewed from an angle. Because of this, I personally switched out my LED's with Halogen bulbs, that are brighter than stock, but don't have the angle weakness...
I also gave the LED taillight a try, and didn't like it. For me, the LED seemed to lack some "color depth" behind the red lens, which wasn't a problem for the incandescent bulb. The LED's also didn't work with my "blue-dots" either.
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