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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 09-15-2011, 02:15 AM Thread Starter
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M109RT vs. VTX1800F

I was riding with a guy who has a M109RT and I couldn't keep
up with him with my "F". Both are stock but his is a 100lbs heavier.
Does anyone know why the the M109 engine is more powerful?
I gave it my best without hitting the limiter, he told me he wasn't
hitting it hard. I always thought the M109 was faster because of
all of the plastic Suzuki uses but the RT has plenty of steel
similar to the X. I'm looking forward to hearing from some of
the tech guys on this one.
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I have had the same results with my buddy's M109r2. I had him thru the first 3 gears then he pulled away from me. I think it was because I bounced it off of the rev limiter in 1 and 2. (i dont have a tach)

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I used to own an M109R and that thing is just fast, but breaks all the time. Was dubbed the Busa cruiser, and earned it. But, I am now a VTX 1800 owner. The problem with the 109 is it is all bull, and no finesse.

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I have had the same results with my buddy's M109r2. I had him thru the first 3 gears then he pulled away from me. I think it was because I bounced it off of the rev limiter in 1 and 2. (i dont have a tach)
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The numbers are out there, just need to type it in Google.

m109 has @ 110 hp at the wheel
VTX1800 has @87hp at the wheel

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Do a search here on the M109's, there have been plenty of threads about them. Although some X riders claim to be able to keep up, if you take away rider skill, the M109 wins hands down, everytime.

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Suzi engine is 'under square' allowing it to rev faster. It is also the same weight or very slightly lighter depending on whose specs you find on the internet.

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The numbers are out there, just need to type it in Google.

m109 has @ 110 hp at the wheel
VTX1800 has @87hp at the wheel
I've test driven a few M109s and compared to my VTX they are faster. With my set up and a custom dyno tune my VTX is pumping out about 100 HP/115 ft-lbs torque at the rear wheel and it felt underpowered when I got off the M109 and back on to the VTX.

Anybody who claims to have beaten a M109 on a VTX probably just beat the driver, not the bike.



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M109R not so great

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I used to own an M109R and that thing is just fast, but breaks all the time. Was dubbed the Busa cruiser, and earned it. But, I am now a VTX 1800 owner. The problem with the 109 is it is all bull, and no finesse.
I'm glad to hear the grass is'nt always greener. Reliability is very
important to me.
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I'm glad to hear the grass is'nt always greener. Reliability is very
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Don't let that sway you. The VTX is a machine just like the 109. Both have problems, just like every vehicle out there has some.

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I'm glad to hear the grass is'nt always greener. Reliability is very
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I heard here before that Suzuki, harley and other brands are crap compared to Honda. so it's just not reliability, but you have to take the crap-factor into consideration, too
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