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Yeah, when I lived in Minneapolis it was nothing to drive that distance, now in a small town it seems like a big deal. Everything is relative. Thanks for the reality check.

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I purchased my Moly 60 at a Honda motorcycle dealer. They had it behind the counter on a shelf.

I bought some kind of Moly paste at an auto parts store. It came in a cardboard type can and must have at least 12 ounces of black lubricant, which contains molybdenum. It's for disk brakes and I wonder if it is good to use on the drive splines?

I understand that the spines need to be well lubricated, but is it absolutely necessary to use the Moly 66 or 77?
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I purchased my Moly 60 at a Honda motorcycle dealer. They had it behind the counter on a shelf.

I bought some kind of Moly paste at an auto parts store. It came in a cardboard type can and must have at least 12 ounces of black lubricant, which contains molybdenum. It's for disk brakes and I wonder if it is good to use on the drive splines?

I understand that the spines need to be well lubricated, but is it absolutely necessary to use the Moly 66 or 77?
"Absolutely necessary" ? I don't know. Personally I would stick with the Honda 60 or 77. You can buy it
here on amazon here on amazon
for $17, or from ebay for a dollar more.

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Based on many VTXOA threads, Bareass Choppers site, and my Repair Manual, I would only use Honda moly paste 77 (or 60 if I already had it). I did buy it earlier today on eBay.

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I once had a tire changed by my favorite indy. I dropped off the wheel and when I picked it up he had a piece of plastic and an elastic band covering the splines. He had put some red synthetic grease on the spines. He proceded to tell me how important it was to make sure the splines were lubed and that this was the good stuff. Well I had already purchased a tube of the moly paste so when I got the wheel home, off came the grease and on went the moly paste. It is such a small amount of money, overall, why not just use the right stuff? I know, when they designed the bike, there were fine high pressure and tacky synthetic greases available, and yet Honda chose the moly paste. And not just any moly paste but 60% moly. Makes sense to me that Moly 60 is what one should use. It simply isn't worth the expense and hassle if you guessed wrong.

I also always put a light coating on the axle before re-installing. The first time I took the axle out it had some very minor corrosion on it. After that I always put a very light coat on it and never saw any corrosion again.


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Moly is one of, if not the best,"barrier" lubricants. Preventing spline to spline contact in high load apps..

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I purchased my Moly 60 at a Honda motorcycle dealer. They had it behind the counter on a shelf.

I bought some kind of Moly paste at an auto parts store. It came in a cardboard type can and must have at least 12 ounces of black lubricant, which contains molybdenum. It's for disk brakes and I wonder if it is good to use on the drive splines?

I understand that the spines need to be well lubricated, but is it absolutely necessary to use the Moly 66 or 77?

No it is not absolutely necessary! However it might be the best at lubrication or more I think it is sticky enough to not get thrown off the spinning gears.

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Quoted from Michael at Bareass Choppers;

"This is a controversial subject among many riders who change their own tires… Honda recommends the moly paste for this application but lots of guys use moly “grease” instead because it’s cheaper and more readily available. The problem is that moly grease does not have nearly the moly content that the paste does and therefore does not offer the same level of protection. The grease can be slung off the wheel under extreme conditions (think how fast that hub spins!) leaving you without the protection you need. These splines see a lot of abuse so I wouldn’t cut corners on something trivial like this. One tube of moly paste will last several tire changes. It’s sad to say that I’ve even seen Honda dealerships that use the grease out of convenience as well – this is just one more incentive to do your own work! Consider this information and if you’re still unsure then read this link (bottom right corner in particular) and then don’t be shy about putting moly paste on both sets of splines (hub and wheel)."

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I also always put a light coating on the axle before re-installing. The first time I took the axle out it had some very minor corrosion on it. After that I always put a very light coat on it and never saw any corrosion again.
The first time I put tires on at 9k miles, shortly after buying it from the original owner, the axle was siezed with rust - it was very extremely difficult to remove the axle - PBBlaster and pounding all afternoon on it. Flange bearings were also gone - rust, and I live in a near-zero humidity area. P O must have used the pressure washer on that part of the bike quite a bit and apparently Honda didn't put grease or moly on the axle when it was assembled. Now when I moly the splines, I also put a thin coat on the axle, makes it real easy to get out next time. Also, I never pressure wash the rear wheel

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Here is a good read on moly spline lube and why you should do it yourself.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Shaft.html

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