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......But they DO get noticed in many situations where they keep you safer and occasionally SAVE LIVES....
I'd much rather have my life occasionally saved than occasionally taken....
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Absolutely Nate. Anything that helps being more visible or more noticed by cars is a huge benefit as far as I'm concerned.
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It's an old way outdated saying. Made when cars had no AC, no radios and no insulation. The facts that you say "A person saw me..." is not factual, it's anecdotal. Perhaps that person just happened to look your way at that same moment. I know for a fact that cars do not hear or see large firetrucks with Q sirens and air horns blaring and I was 10 feet from their rear bumper. Your little motorcycle with exhaust noise going OUT THE BACK is not going to raise a lot of attention. Use your horn, that noise, people are taught from child age to know as a warning and respond to. If you want to be safer on the roads, go take a class on motorcycle riding. Loud pipes only annoy people and make them change laws to get us removed from areas.
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It's an old way outdated saying. Made when cars had no AC, no radios and no insulation. The facts that you say "A person saw me..." is not factual, it's anecdotal. Perhaps that person just happened to look your way at that same moment. I know for a fact that cars do not hear or see large firetrucks with Q sirens and air horns blaring and I was 10 feet from their rear bumper. Your little motorcycle with exhaust noise going OUT THE BACK is not going to raise a lot of attention. Use your horn, that noise, people are taught from child age to know as a warning and respond to. If you want to be safer on the roads, go take a class on motorcycle riding. Loud pipes only annoy people and make them change laws to get us removed from areas.


Very well said Spike. CAN I GET AN AMEN?

There are a couple of people I stopped riding with because of their wake the dead approach to exhaust. It is amazing how far the use of common sense will carry you in life. Of course the over abundance of safety items cheats natural selection every hour of every day.


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I think there is something to be said about making oneself more visible, extra lighting at night especially. I am a fairly attentive driver but the number of times i've had a fire engine or ambulance sneak up behind me makes me leary of EVER assuming someone saw you, heard you or even knows you exist.

the only way to keep yourself safe on a motorcycle is not only assume that you are completely invisible to literally EVERYONE but that most of the drivers out there are intentionally trying to trick you into running into them by changing lanes unexpectedly slowing down, not signalling, speeding up, swerving, drifting lanes, and basically trying to run you off the road. watch everyone like they are your worst enemy and this is the one chance they have been looking for their whole life to grind you under their bumper and be able to claim "I just didn't see them there"



stay safe people.
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^^^^Very valid points! If "safety" was my only incentive for the pipes, I wouldn't do it. But I like my pipes and I'll try to justify them however I can.

However - the safety risk of hearing damage/loss due to riding with loud pipes is FAR more proven and scientific that the potential impact to other driver's awareness of your presence. I spent near $50 for custom ear plugs to protect my ears from the pipes and wind noise.
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^^^^Very valid points! If "safety" was my only incentive for the pipes, I wouldn't do it. But I like my pipes and I'll try to justify them however I can.

However - the safety risk of hearing damage/loss due to riding with loud pipes is FAR more proven and scientific that the potential impact to other driver's awareness of your presence. I spent near $50 for custom ear plugs to protect my ears from the pipes and wind noise.
Wind noise is BY FAR more damaging than loud pipes. That is unless you are following that guy with the ear bleed pipes. You know, the ones that make people hate us bikers. I like loud but I don't like LOUD.
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Before I fit in a baffle, the dB level tested at my ear in riding position was 106 peak dBs (4,500+ RPM and WOT). While wind noise definitely overpowers the pipes at speed, they can be loud enough to be a danger all by themselves.


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While my Cobra pipes are louder than stock, they are not, in my opinion, obnoxious in normal riding, but they are loud when cranking down on the throttle. I too wear high quality ear plugs and did so also before installing the pipes.
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By the way, I ride with loud pipes, but never rely on them to make me "Seen" by cars. It's a great way to get killed. USE YOUR HORN
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