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Light bar installation help [2005 1800N]

I am trying to install a Show Chrome light bar. [This is the kind that wires to a switch you mount to the side cover. There is also a harness that connects to the key wire and the battery[.

I am wondering if anyone has wired the light bar wiring inside the head light bucket so it would still go on and off with the key. Also, I would need the light bar to go off when the high beams are on.

Can I use the Fog Light 3P connector somehow?

Basically, I don't want the switch at all and can't figure out how to do the light bar wiring with switch harness SC provided...

I hope I am making sense.

Thanks again for any help or resources you can give.

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You can use the 3 pin OPT Fog light connector Blue wire ---but it just turns on the Fog/Aux when High beam is ON.
I find it crazy that Aux light cannot be used for safety with High Beams or Low Beams.

Our favorite Rattlebars site has the option to use Aux lights with manual control but still switches On/Off with IGN switch

If you do not want the manual switch, then you will have to tap into the Headlight Low beam White wire and
connect to Relay Trigger connection.

http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/foglites.html
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So, does this make sense...

I tap into the white wire (low beam) of the head lamp plug and run that to a relay.

I run a green/ground wire of the head lamp plug and run that to the relay.

I then run the two wires from the light bar to the relay.

All this is inside the head light housing.

Does this mean my light bar will only draw when the bike is on? And the light bar lights will only be on when the low beams are on?

Thanks for being patient. I am learning as I go...

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You can use the 3 pin OPT Fog light connector Blue wire ---but it just turns on the Fog/Aux when High beam is ON.
I find it crazy that Aux light cannot be used for safety with High Beams or Low Beams.

Our favorite Rattlebars site has the option to use Aux lights with manual control but still switches On/Off with IGN switch

If you do not want the manual switch, then you will have to tap into the Headlight Low beam White wire and
connect to Relay Trigger connection.

http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/foglites.html

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AND you will run a wire from the +12v battery or +12v from the starter relay to a 15 amp fuse then continue to the relay on pin 30. The arrows on the right side point to the new +12v power wire.
It is also highly suggested to run a NEW ground wire from the Aux lights to the FRAME Ground..
Any frame Ground bolt will work.

The headlight wiring powers the relay on low beam ONLY...
You did not say if your Aux lights are Led or halogen... What wattage???

The +12v wire and fuse provide power to the relay.
When the low beam is ON the relay is energized and the new +12v is connected to the new Aux lights..
Before turning on IGN switch, place HL switch in high beam to prevent Aux lights from going ON.
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Oops. sorry...55 watt halogen.

I will attach one end to the battery and the other end to the relay (pin 30). This look right? (first photo)

The relay looks like this (second photo. The two empty pins will connect to the wires from the light bar).

Thanks for walking me through this..

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AND you will run a wire from the +12v battery or +12v from the starter relay to a 15 amp fuse then continue to the relay on pin 30. The arrows on the right side point to the new +12v power wire.
It is also highly suggested to run a NEW ground wire from the Aux lights to the FRAME Ground..
Any frame Ground bolt will work.

The headlight wiring powers the relay on low beam ONLY...
You did not say if your Aux lights are Led or halogen... What wattage???

The +12v wire and fuse provide power to the relay.
When the low beam is ON the relay is energized and the new +12v is connected to the new Aux lights..
Before turning on IGN switch, place HL switch in high beam to prevent Aux lights from going ON.
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ONLY one of the empty pins goes to the lightbar.
Pin 87 of the relay goes to the lightbar.

The Relay has Normally Closed contact(87A) and a Normally Open contact(87) with pin 30 the Common pin. You want pin 87 to lightbar--it will be in contact with pin 30 when the relay is energized..

Honda and Cobra lightbars used 25 watt halogens...
Your 55 watt bulbs could be exceeding your generating capacity at low RPMs...
I suggest getting a voltage meter for the X to monitor the charging voltage.
Here is where having a manual on/off switch would be helpful.
Use high beam during the day--you will be seen better and only have one large wattage bulb on.

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Using RB site, I used the AuX 3 pin for ground and key on for relay and installed on/off so I can run hi/lo....glad to see Hans stepped up....LOL ...good luck

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Thank you. I am working on it this week.

I appreciate your input and help.

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ONLY one of the empty pins goes to the lightbar.
Pin 87 of the relay goes to the lightbar.

The Relay has Normally Closed contact(87A) and a Normally Open contact(87) with pin 30 the Common pin. You want pin 87 to lightbar--it will be in contact with pin 30 when the relay is energized..

Honda and Cobra lightbars used 25 watt halogens...
Your 55 watt bulbs could be exceeding your generating capacity at low RPMs...
I suggest getting a voltage meter for the X to monitor the charging voltage.
Here is where having a manual on/off switch would be helpful.
Use high beam during the day--you will be seen better and only have one large wattage bulb on.

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RB site?

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Using RB site, I used the AuX 3 pin for ground and key on for relay and installed on/off so I can run hi/lo....glad to see Hans stepped up....LOL ...good luck

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