View Full Version : Looking for good CD Player (dont Skip)
1800rrr
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
:( I have tried 3 different audio CD players to no avail. Does anyone have any leads on a stereo that doesnt skip at every throttle jump?
NMead
05-01-2006, 09:37 PM
Yeah, They're called MP3 players...
No 'anti-skip' CD player will equal a Solid State Memory device, plus, where do you carry the extra CD's? or do you just listen to the same 13 songs over and over?
Nate
PAVTXER
05-01-2006, 09:37 PM
Get an MP3 Player, you can put much more music on it, and you will never get a skip.......
I use an MP3 Player and headphones (earbuds).
Tennhome
05-01-2006, 09:38 PM
:( I have tried 3 different audio CD players to no avail. Does anyone have any leads on a stereo that doesnt skip at every throttle jump?
Have you tried an MP3 player? Copy your CD to computer hard drive as mp3s and just download. Guaranteed no skip.
http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/7712/7712923_sa.jpg
tracknod
05-01-2006, 09:43 PM
Do they even make CD players anymore? I haven't bought a CD in 4 years... LOL... Hey I got a novel idea... you might want to try an MP3 player ;) :lol: :lol:
Poison
05-01-2006, 10:15 PM
Go for the 8-track player....they don't skip, they just unravel. :lol:
sskillett
05-01-2006, 10:35 PM
Depending on what kind of radio you have now, alot of the radio manufacturers are now making connectivity kits to allow integration of an iPod. Pioneer has a unit that connects to a "P-bus" head unit in place of a CD changer. I've used this device in performance boats that do 80-100 mph on the water. A CD player or changer could not take that type of abuse. With the iPod, you just transfer all of your cds to mp3 format & onto the ipod. Then the ipod just plugs into the radio and uses the radio's amplifier & speakers. Some ipods can hold thousands of songs and some are very small to fit into your pocket.
Blade
05-01-2006, 11:56 PM
I don't mean to pour it on but I must unequivocally agree -- a CD on a motorcycle is problematic on several levels that new technology completely eradicates. First there WILL be skipping, it's going to be virtually unavoidable; and secondly you are limited to only an album of songs, unless you want to carry others in a saddlebag and change them when you want to listen to new music, unwieldy and cumbersome beyond reason.
The two current formats are absolutely made for motorcycling: MP3 players and satellite radio. In each case it is digital so there's no physical disks to skip, and the music selection is almost limitless with MP3's and virtually IS limitless with a satellite radio. I used to go w/a 40GB MP3 player but have since opted for XM radio -- you are always surprised at what you'll get (to hear). But if you DO want to stick with a CD player, well, bless ya!
My Roady2 XM Radio and Mount:
http://static.flickr.com/28/91879842_08e23837d6.jpg
I been using my sons ipod....now I got to go buy me one.
VTX RUDY
05-02-2006, 12:34 AM
What's a CD player is that like a high fi? :?
doc_cj
05-02-2006, 02:47 AM
Who cares about CD or MP3 players ... I just like sskillett's avalon photo!
RayJay
05-02-2006, 07:30 AM
I would agree with the MP3 player, but if you are stuck on a CD player, then Sierra Electronics do offer one, but the last I checked they are like $600..
And for that type of money then you could get a GPS with a built in MP3 player.. I've been looking at the Iway 500C
daddysbike
05-02-2006, 11:14 AM
Get an MP3 player. I've been using a RIO for 4 yrs. I uses 1 AAA batter thats good for ~10hours (I use rechargable). It came with 256mb internal memory (about 80songs) and uses SD (secure digital) cards up to 1GB (300songs). I recommend the flash based memory (secure digital, compact flash card) over the hard drive units. The hard drives do provide more storage for less$$ but have moving parts that can fail with the bouncing around on motorcycle. I have 2 RIO units that I alternate using, the extra is for the rare occasion my wife rides with me. I'd avoid the all popular Ipod, they are very proprietory i.e. you can only get music from apples web site and can only put that music on the ipod, you can't burn to cd. I still get my musice for free with file sharing and can copy to cd for car or Mp3 player.
Steve
RARVTX
05-02-2006, 11:17 AM
I remember when CDs first came out. A fellow rider friend of mine said he wanted to go to some store and buy some CDs. I couldn't understand why he just didn't go to a bank to buy CDs. I thought he was refering to Certificates of Deposit. I feel very old now.
N-Abnormal
05-02-2006, 11:26 AM
Get an MP3 player. I've been using a RIO for 4 yrs. I uses 1 AAA batter thats good for ~10hours (I use rechargable). It came with 256mb internal memory (about 80songs) and uses SD (secure digital) cards up to 1GB (300songs). I recommend the flash based memory (secure digital, compact flash card) over the hard drive units. The hard drives do provide more storage for less$$ but have moving parts that can fail with the bouncing around on motorcycle. I have 2 RIO units that I alternate using, the extra is for the rare occasion my wife rides with me. I'd avoid the all popular Ipod, they are very proprietory i.e. you can only get music from apples web site and can only put that music on the ipod, you can't burn to cd. I still get my musice for free with file sharing and can copy to cd for car or Mp3 player.
Steve
I do not recommend file sharing to anyone. The best way to get viruses and such plus it is illegal...
I love my Creative zen micro 6G... Has all the features the others have plus fm radio and one of the highest output volume levels of any plus a equalizer... I use it to power my 4 speaker system on the bike and have found nothing that beats it within the price range. It is a hard drive but it all depends on how u have it mounted. I have had 0 problems from mine and no skipping or anything...
I'd avoid the all popular Ipod, they are very proprietory i.e. you can only get music from apples web site and can only put that music on the ipod, you can't burn to cd.
Steve
Wrong
N-Abnormal
05-02-2006, 12:07 PM
I'd avoid the all popular Ipod, they are very proprietory i.e. you can only get music from apples web site and can only put that music on the ipod, you can't burn to cd.
Steve
Wrong
That maybe wrong but the ipod is still not the best buy, they just have great marketing and a long list of accessories over the others... Kind of reminds ya of the Harley thing dosent it....
I'd avoid the all popular Ipod, they are very proprietory i.e. you can only get music from apples web site and can only put that music on the ipod, you can't burn to cd.
Steve
Wrong
That maybe wrong but the ipod is still not the best buy, they just have great marketing and a long list of accessories over the others... Kind of reminds ya of the Harley thing dosent it....
:D I like the iPod, but if but sat radio and iWay look good too. Just clarifying wrong information about the iPod. In fact I would stay away from apples music and rip your own, then there is no problems burning cd's or transfering music to other devices.
dirtdobber
05-02-2006, 12:41 PM
I am using the zen mp3 on my 1300, works great. On my 1800 I have the eclipse am/fm, cd/mp3 and it is great, it doesn't skip, hasn't yet. I can get 10-12 albums on a disc and with a push of a button I can listen to the radio has a very good sound and more than enough vloume.
If you insist on cd you can get a changer to go in the trunk, proven to work pretty well, I must agree mp3 is to cd's what cd's were to cassette and 8 track, my bro. has a cd changer in the tour pak on his H.D. sounds good,like anything else, do some research. Enjoy the ride, have a great day.
Voodoo
05-02-2006, 01:22 PM
Get a flash Memory MP3 Player (Like a Aplle Nano)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat63100050013&type=category
I guess the consensus is MP3 or XM radio. I have the MyFi XM which works good most locations with an external antenna and records up to 5 hours of programming for those locations where you don't get good reception. I like the MyFi. Fits in pocket, or I have it velcroed to the gas tank so I can see the display. Never skips. 8)
AgentOrange
05-02-2006, 01:33 PM
You want the Creative labs Zen Vision M.
30gig hard drive, FM tuner, can store and view Photos and video.
For around $270
The software is the best and will integrate w/ Media player. If you have Windows XP by a product that was designed for Windows. Not for a Mac (ipod).
Trust Me.
Go to www.cnet.com (http://www.cnet.com) and look at the reviews for the vision M and compare them to the reviews for the Ipod.
N-Abnormal
05-02-2006, 03:51 PM
You want the Creative labs Zen Vision M.
30gig hard drive, FM tuner, can store and view Photos and video.
For around $270
The software is the best and will integrate w/ Media player. If you have Windows XP by a product that was designed for Windows. Not for a Mac (ipod).
Trust Me.
Go to www.cnet.com (http://www.cnet.com) and look at the reviews for the vision M and compare them to the reviews for the Ipod.
That is the one I plan on replacing my 6G zen micro with, But Im waiting for a case to become available that would mount on the setup I already have on the bike (belt clip case with the screen visible and such)
http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/500/3746speaks3.JPG
dragon_fly121
05-02-2006, 04:43 PM
Get an MP3 player. I've been using a RIO for 4 yrs. I uses 1 AAA batter thats good for ~10hours (I use rechargable). It came with 256mb internal memory (about 80songs) and uses SD (secure digital) cards up to 1GB (300songs). I recommend the flash based memory (secure digital, compact flash card) over the hard drive units. The hard drives do provide more storage for less$$ but have moving parts that can fail with the bouncing around on motorcycle. I have 2 RIO units that I alternate using, the extra is for the rare occasion my wife rides with me. I'd avoid the all popular Ipod, they are very proprietory i.e. you can only get music from apples web site and can only put that music on the ipod, you can't burn to cd. I still get my musice for free with file sharing and can copy to cd for car or Mp3 player.
Steve
Not true about iTunes.
You can import your entire cd colection into iTunes, and you can burn to a cd. I have several "mixes" cd's in my Blazer that I listen to.
I do not recommend file sharing to anyone. The best way to get viruses and such plus it is illegal...
Who the he|| are you the music cop? FILE SHARING IS NOT ILLEGAL Breaking copyright law is.
I pull all the free music I want off the internet using file sharing.. I could just record it off the free air waves and place it in my library but file sharing is much easier. By the way.. File sharing MP3's is NOT the best way to get viruses.. Morons that FWD Haha's and LOL's that they think are cute to your inbox are the ones stuffing crap on everyones boxes.
D-load all the free music ya want. Your 200 or three hundred songs hurts no one when they are for your private use.. Besides most of us Older Riders like music that ya can't pick up wadin between the gum snappers and the border jumpers at the CD display at the local Wal-Mart.. But I guess you would opt to go to the HIGHER priced Music afficinado store so you can get a shoulder rub while their giving you an enema via yer wallet and maybe they'll double wrap the CD case so you can chew through more cellophane looking for the elusive pull tab!
In case you don't know with the older music, your not hurting any musician... Your hurting the record company that stole thier music through BS contracts and came back years later and bought all the rights from the dead or aging rockers family for a pittance just before they sold it for a quintillion dollars more to another media industry A$$Wipe that is gonna use it on his variety show as the opening theme!
If ya hear it on the radio it has been broadcasted on FREE air waves. Once I hear it on my radio I can copy it for my personal use so say's the FCC and if I can record it on cassette Tape I can digitize it...
Plastik
N-Abnormal
05-02-2006, 05:02 PM
I do not recommend file sharing to anyone. The best way to get viruses and such plus it is illegal...
Who the he|| are you the music cop? FILE SHARING IS NOT ILLEGAL Breaking copyright law is.
I pull all the free music I want off the internet using file sharing.. I could just record it off the free air waves and place it in my library but file sharing is much easier. By the way.. File sharing MP3's is NOT the best way to get viruses.. Morons that FWD Haha's and LOL's that they think are cute to your inbox are the ones stuffing crap on everyones boxes.
D-load all the free music ya want. Your 200 or three hundred songs hurts no one when they are for your private use.. Besides most of us Older Riders like music that ya can't pick up wadin between the gum snappers and the border jumpers at the CD display at the local Wal-Mart.. But I guess you would opt to go to the HIGHER priced Music afficinado store so you can get a shoulder rub while their giving you an enema via yer wallet and maybe they'll double wrap the CD case so you can chew through more cellophane looking for the elusive pull tab!
In case you don't know with the older music, your not hurting any musician... Your hurting the record company that stole thier music through BS contracts and came back years later and bought all the rights from the dead or aging rockers family for a pittance just before they sold it for a quintillion dollars more to another media industry A$$Wipe that is gonna use it on his variety show as the opening theme!
If ya hear it on the radio it has been broadcasted on FREE air waves. Once I hear it on my radio I can copy it for my personal use so say's the FCC and if I can record it on cassette Tape I can digitize it...
Plastik
I dont buy cd's, havent for a couple of yrs now, I use xm and napster to go and pay my monthly fee for the subscription old and new songs... I can not say that I agree with ur ways but do what u want... On the other hand the main thing I was talkin about is things such as limewire and anything related to it or like it, they are the best ways to get viruses no matter how u look at it... and its not right in my opinion, but that means as much to u as urs does to me :lol:
Big-G
05-02-2006, 05:27 PM
Don't mean to be ugly...well maybe a little...Buying an IPOD is kinda like buying a HD to me. Its a great name and you can get accessories all over the place....but they are pricey :D
I personally put my record player on the back play them there LP thingys.....snap-crackle-pop.
dragon_fly121
05-02-2006, 06:08 PM
I personally put my record player on the back play them there LP thingys.....snap-crackle-pop.
That's kinda funny.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Umm, I'm not to start anything here, but I'm wondering how hearing a song on the radio means that your entitled to it, for free?
Wasn't it file sharing that got Napster in trouble a few years ago? I remember Lars Ulrich from Metallica getting pretty bent and going to court claiming that file sharing WAS stealing, because the artists were not getting paid for their music. Apparently the judge agreed. I think that's the reason that Napster is no longer free.
Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just curious.
N-Abnormal
05-02-2006, 08:15 PM
[quote="Big-G":1nc3gsn4]I personally put my record player on the back play them there LP thingys.....snap-crackle-pop.
That's kinda funny.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Umm, I'm not to start anything here, but I'm wondering how hearing a song on the radio means that your entitled to it, for free?
Wasn't it file sharing that got Napster in trouble a few years ago? I remember Lars Ulrich from Metallica getting pretty bent and going to court claiming that file sharing WAS stealing, because the artists were not getting paid for their music. Apparently the judge agreed. I think that's the reason that Napster is no longer free.
Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just curious.[/quote:1nc3gsn4]
Yes that is the reason... But they have been legal for a couple of yrs now I beleive. I didnt use them until u had to pay for a subscription.... Before this happended they were just like limewire and other illegal ones of today..
The way napster to go works now is u sign up and pay 15 bucks a month for a subscription with unlimited downlaods. U can download almost every song in the world and put it on ur mp3. Thing is u dont own these songs and u can not burn them or anything else other then use them on ur portable device. Once u cancel ur memebership all of the songs u have magicaly become unusable b/c u canceled ur subscrition to them...
Glenn W
05-02-2006, 08:33 PM
while not neccesarily the best value, one advantage with the iPod is that there are many head units that will accept iPod tuner box/input cable instead of just using a 3.5mm mini-jack
Try an Eclipse head unit for a non-skipper BTW, a CD3000 if you plan to add anAUX input or iPod, or a CD2000 otherwise.
[quote="dragon_fly121":28wogyrh][quote="Big-G":28wogyrh]I personally put my record player on the back play them there LP thingys.....snap-crackle-pop.
That's kinda funny.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Umm, I'm not to start anything here, but I'm wondering how hearing a song on the radio means that your entitled to it, for free?
Wasn't it file sharing that got Napster in trouble a few years ago? I remember Lars Ulrich from Metallica getting pretty bent and going to court claiming that file sharing WAS stealing, because the artists were not getting paid for their music. Apparently the judge agreed. I think that's the reason that Napster is no longer free.
Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just curious.[/quote:28wogyrh]
Yes that is the reason... But they have been legal for a couple of yrs now I beleive. I didnt use them until u had to pay for a subscription.... Before this happended they were just like limewire and other illegal ones of today..
The way napster to go works now is u sign up and pay 15 bucks a month for a subscription with unlimited downlaods. U can download almost every song in the world and put it on ur mp3. Thing is u dont own these songs and u can not burn them or anything else other then use them on ur portable device. Once u cancel ur memebership all of the songs u have magicaly become unusable b/c u canceled ur subscrition to them...[/quote:28wogyrh]
Abby Normal,
Limewire is not illegal
MP3 files are difficult to corrupt
File sharing is legal
If it has been broadcasted on free airwaves it is recordable for personal use on a myriad of devices that DO NOT INFRINGE on copyright laws.
You break more Copyright laws by recording a baseball game or the superbowl. Are cassette tapes with your own recorded music illegal? Are casset tapes that record a radio broadcast illegal? are cassette tapes with music videos illegal? NOT IF RECORDED FOR PERSONAL USE!
Plastik
playin my tunes and owe no one for it!
doc_cj
05-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Sorry, Plastikman, but you are wrong on several of your claims about copyright protection. I’ll take them in the order you’ve provided them in the original message.
1. Limewire is not illegal – We are kind of splitting hairs here. No, Limewire, as a form of transfer, is not in itself illegal; however, much of the music and other intangible electronic goods being distributed through Limewire is illegal. In the simplest sense the Limewire actions arise under Peer-to-Peer sharing.
The term “peer-to-peer” (P2P) refers to a class of systems and applications that employ distributed resources to perform a critical function in a decentralized manner. With the development and deployment of computers, P2P is increasingly receiving attention in research, product development, and investment circles.
P2P is legal, but what you share through a P2P system may not be. See my comment on File Sharing.
2. File sharing is legal – This is another loaded answer which only gives a part of the truth. Yes, file sharing is legal, and is done every day by colleges and business all over the U.S. It is not, however, legal for individuals to pass along files under the umbrella of file sharing. That is file swapping, and that is illegal.
I think what may be confused here is the legal standard that the company (Limewire, in this instance) is not responsible for the actions of the users. The concept comes from the old Sony case (involving the Sony Betamax and the question of whether Sony is liable when users illegally copy to the tape). Most recently, in Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd. ("Grokster II"), 380 F.3d 1154 (9th Cir. 2004), the Ninth Circuit affirmed the applicability of the Sony doctrine to peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing computer software.
Specifically, the court determined that P2P software distributors Grokster and StreamCast Networks could not be held liable as contributory copyright infringers because, like Sony in part, their products were capable of substantial noninfringing uses. That does not mean, though, that illegally shared files (either computer or MP3) are exempt in anyway. Only that the person doing the sharing is going to be liable, not the company.
The Ninth Circuit applied the Sony rule in the course of analyzing the defendants' (Grokster) liability under the common law test for contributory liability. The court also determined that the defendants could not be held liable as vicarious infringers. Id. at 1164-66. The distinction between contributory and vicarious copyright infringement is very important, and should not be taken lightly.
This does not mean, though, that the users themselves are actually doing legal acts. Without going into too much detail (this message is getting too long now), I’ll simply say that file-sharing is not always legal, and one should be very careful of what and how something is shared.
3. If it has been broadcasted on free airwaves it is recordable for personal use on a myriad of devices that DO NOT INFRINGE on copyright laws. I love this one. Sorry, that is not right, the reality is that the broadcaster actually holds the copyright either as the originator of the work or in a derivative fashion. In other words, something broadcast over public or “free airwaves” is still protected by copyright.
Section 501 of the US Copyright Law (Title 17 of the United States Code) states that “The legal or beneficial owner of an exclusive right under a copyright is entitled, subject to the requirements of section 411, to institute an action for any infringement of that particular right committed while he or she is the owner of it.”
Even when it is broadcast in a secondary system, such as a cable TV system or on the Internet, the original owner has exclusive rights, and may enforce as per the copyright law. More specifically, the law states “With respect to any secondary transmission that is made by a satellite carrier of a performance or display of a work embodied in a primary transmission and is actionable as an act of infringement under section 119(a)(5), a network station holding a copyright or other license to transmit or perform the same version of that work shall, for purposes of subsection (b) of this section, be treated as a legal or beneficial owner if such secondary transmission occurs within the local service area of that station.”
Okay, that’s enough for now, I’m sure you get the idea. Yes, there are a LOT of folks using P2P systems to swap files, and they are likely doing it illegally. It’s kind of like when you’re mom asked that age old question, “If all your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it too?”
Unless you own the original CD or other legally licensed product you do NOT have a right to rip it off and use it in another device. If you own the original CD then you may rip files from it for use on another device, but you can not play both at the same time. You are licensed only for play of the song/voice on one device at a time, and a violation creates a copyright violation. While you can rip the music from the new CD for your IPod or other MP3 player you can not then use both the MP3 ripped version and the CD at the same time. So don’t buy the CD, rip off the music, and then take it back to Wal-Mart for a return because you think you are now legal.
Broadcast of any type are subject to copyright law and protection. Just because you hear it somewhere does not mean you can record it and sell it or use it. That’s why the MPAA is going after people who take video cameras into theaters. They watch the first release movie then dump the poor quality video to the Internet or elsewhere, and that is illegal.
Likewise, you can not record something from a broadcast or from a live performance without getting permission (which usually requires paying for it.).
Okay, ‘nuff said for now.
N-Abnormal
05-06-2006, 01:19 AM
very well said... :D
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