And the Honda Fury is:

[Hal @ Honda Direct Line]

Not a hybrid, not electric, its a chopper

No new photos available.

Frame to be color matched to bike

Cables inside handlebar

Specs for 2010 Honda Fury

Fuel Inj 1312cc liq cooled 52 degree v-twin engine

5 spd shaft

Wheelbase 71.24 in"

Rake Caster Angle 38.0 Degree Total 32.5 frame

Seat hght 26.69 in"

Fuel Cap 3.4 gal

Frt Tire 90/90-21 Rear Tire 200/50-18

Curb Weight 663 lbs

[DuelXer]

Why couldn't they just put that engine in the VTX. Probably next year...Not too exciting

[Phantom_1]

Interesting, it does have my curiosity up, now I just need to see some clear photos of it!:thumbup:

[GAZZA]

some body please put this one too bed...:dontknow:
Were happy with our X's...well i am anyho...:thumbup:

[battoo]

The injection sounds nice i would have rather seen a bigger engine

[cannonfl]

That's disappointing ... I was really expecting something NEW. :roll:

[VTXKC]

Why couldn't they just put that engine in the VTX. Probably next year...Not too exciting
I'm pretty sure that is the engine in the VTX minus the fuel injection.

[kjelders]

3.4 gal tank....that will get you to bike night. no 240 rear tire? The Honda engineers just aren't listening. I'll keep the VTX

[Poison]

I'm pretty sure that is the engine in the VTX minus the fuel injection.Sounds like it.
They'd have been better off just putting that engine in the X....and stick the leftover carb models in the chopper.

Nothing really new or exciting here, and about 8 years too late on the chopper thing.

[Nicksterdemus]

Thanx, but no thanx.

I already have a 1800.

Why would I wish to downsize?

Once again Honda drops the ball in the two wheel department...

Oh well, for a few fleeting moments the dreams were vivid and then I woke up to, just wait till next year.

Yeah right.

How's that Suzy M109R comin' along these dayz?...

[Biodude]

ohhhh a 5sp Shaft drive trans.....



meh :-|

[DAWG]

Interesting.

I'm sure people will buy it. I remember the talk when the VTX was first announced.

It'll be interesting to see what it actually looks like and what kind of following it will have.

I don't suppose they have a base price yet?

DAWG

[Hal @ Honda Direct Line]

I have heard a price but I would rather wait until they make it official with photos early next month.

[eperk]

The engine size is kinda dissapointing. I guess they are going to discontinue the 1800 Vtwin altogether. That ain't right.

[MnXRider]

200 rear tire? that blows ass. Unless it has room for a bigger rim and 280 :roll:

[GAZZA]

COME ON HAL SPILL THE BEANS...$$$$$$$$ LETS HAVE IT...

[Biodude]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSjK2Oqrgichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSjK2Oqrgic

[Nicksterdemus]

http://www.hahakiri.com/wp-content/uploads/_FartPropellant.jpg

Honda's new propulsion system slated for 2010.

Unfortunately it stinks just as much as the 2009 Fart in a Whirlwind
formerly, wishfully, yet wantonly referred to as the Fury.

[VTXKC]

Sounds like it.
They'd have been better off just putting that engine in the X....and stick the leftover carb models in the chopper.

Nothing really new or exciting here, and about 8 years too late on the chopper thing.

:agree: I think the chopper craze is a thing of the past. Maybe Paul Senior can buy back his steel business from his son. Oh well, onto the next craze. Mybe OCDB, Orance County Dune Buggies.

[Hal @ Honda Direct Line]

Not a hybrid, not electric, its a chopper

Comparison Of Specs to VTX1300C

Fuel Inj 1312cc liq cooled 52 degree v-twin engine

5 spd shaft

Wheelbase 71.24 in" 65.45 inches 1300C

Rake Caster Angle 38.0 Degree Total 32.5 frame

Seat hght 26.69 in" 27.46 inches VTX1300C

Fuel Cap 3.4 gal 4.8 gallons 1300C

Frt Tire 90/90-21 Rear Tire 200/50-18 110/90x19 and 170/80x15 1300C

Curb Weight 663 lbs 679 lbs 11300C

See comparison above.

[DAWG]

I have heard a price but I would rather wait until they make it official with photos early next month.

That's cool. Who knows, between now and then they may end up changing it anyway.

The "1312" may just be the size that works best with the platform:dontknow:

Remember, it is a Chopper not a Pro Street. It may be a nice stablemate for my 1800 C :doorag:

DAWG

[Chicago-Spike]

Wow, a fuel injected 1300 with a smaller tank and a raked front end. Someone hit it on the head, 5 years too late on the chopper craze guys. ;)

[smbear]

FLOOOOOPPPPPPPP . well my vtx just went up in value . thank you honda .
wow the industry is trying to play catch up right now . LOL

[Kevin Kuiper]

200 rear tire? that blows ass. Unless it has room for a bigger rim and 280 :roll:


There is ALWAYS room for Mods :thumbup::thumbup:

[jthree]

Thanx, but no thanx.

I already have a 1800.

Why would I wish to downsize?

Once again Honda drops the ball in the two wheel department...

Oh well, for a few fleeting moments the dreams were vivid and then I woke up to, just wait till next year.

Yeah right.

How's that Suzy M109R comin' along these dayz?...

+1

They discontinue the best bike ever made and add another 1300 to the fleet. On top of that the put a 200 tire on a chopper:confused:

If and when I switch out my '02 1800 it'll be to a left over 1800 or a 109.

Oh well.

Cheers

Jthree

[workman]

UHHHHHHH, where's the evolutionary product???? Where is the radically "new"???? Honda made some bold statements - and failed. I'm not saying I won't think the bike is cool, or looks great, but it DOES NOT live up to the hype.

[birdiemn]

It's been said before, and it needs to be said again:

There is no such thing as a factory made chopper.

As Phil says: wrench up, do it yourself. :tools:

[Jynxx]

I gotta say, I am quite disappointed. I like the overall design (of what we can see in the blurry pics anyway) but I'm not really interested in losing a half a liter in the engine.

Also, a 200 rear tire sucks.

[richardvtx03]

I myself was hoping for a VTX 2500cc. With a stock 240 on the back. Kinda dissapointed.:cry:

[richardvtx03]

I gotta say, I am quite disappointed. I like the overall design (of what we can see in the blurry pics anyway) but I'm not really interested in losing a half a liter in the engine.

Also, a 200 rear tire sucks.
What blurry pics?

[gtgeorge]

To me it is very dull, whats Honda thinking? Where is the Touring Cruiser?:confused:
I am disappointed.

George

[Hal @ Honda Direct Line]

I myself was hoping for a VTX 2500cc. With a stock 240 on the back. Kinda dissapointed.:cry:

I think we all forgot the times in which we live.

[Jynxx]

What blurry pics?


Hal posted them earlier. Here it is again:

http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=110&pictureid=431

[DAWG]

I think we all forgot the times in which we live.

:thumbup:

[Rated X]

Sorry 1800 guys if you look at the main message page you will see right now 36 people on 1800 board and 66 on the 1300 board. I guess Honda sees what's more popular. I thought they would go the way of the Raider with 1900cc's and air cooled. As Hal has stated it's the times we live in. Don't forget not too long ago 650 was the big bike.

[Acrotech]

The times we live in? My guess is they started on this thing well before the economy took a dump. The only way I can see that bike doing well is if they have it priced in the $6K-$7K range. They pretty much lost the sport bike market by not keeping up and looks like they might be heading that same way with the cruiser market. I don't get it:dontknow:

:popcorn:

[TorqueLover]

Not a hybrid, not electric, its a chopper

No new photos available.

Frame to be color matched to bike

Cables inside handlebar

Specs for 2010 Honda Fury

Fuel Inj 1312cc liq cooled 52 degree v-twin engine

5 spd shaft

Wheelbase 71.24 in"

Rake Caster Angle 38.0 Degree Total 32.5 frame

Seat hght 26.69 in"

Fuel Cap 3.4 gal

Frt Tire 90/90-21 Rear Tire 200/50-18

Curb Weight 663 lbs


Only a 1300 !! What a JOKE !!

Honda is going to lose their azz once again.

[HOOKY]

Now the M109 comes stock with a 200 rear and is changeable to a 240 with no mods.......maybe Honda has this option too :confused:

[Jynxx]

Now the M109 comes stock with a 200 rear and is changeable to a 240 with no mods.......maybe Honda has this option too :confused:


Uhhh...from what I've seen, it comes stock with a 240 and can be upgraded to a 280 with just a rim.

[Scotrod1965]

Well, I was kinda expecting something 'more',,,, :dontknow:

but,,,

I still love my 1800! :D

(C'mere, lil Fury, c'mere!!!! See this? It's called a tail light! Bye now! :twisted:)

Also, FWIW, by the looks of the Fury, my large keister won't fit very well in that seat,,, I'd be like a JUMBO egg sitting in a medium carton!!! :yikes:


Wonder if/when the PHANTOM will appear,,,,,;)

[MR VTX]

To me it is very dull, whats Honda thinking? Where is the Touring Cruiser?:confused:
I am disappointed.

George

That's why I made my own tourer/bagger (see sig pics)! :thumbup:

I really thought they would at least have stayed with an 1800 engine, or maybe have gone a little larger! I wouldn't have gotten one anyway, though. I do, however, really like the new Suzuki M90 that looks just like the M109R. If I had to get another bike, that would be the one...especially now that Honda is no longer making larger VTXs than the 1300. I'd paint it Sunburst Pearl Orange, though, in honor of my VTX. :mrgreen:

http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/colorVariations/500/M90K9_aBlack_000000.jpg

Specs
Engine:1462 cc, 4-stroke, 2-cylinder, liquid-cooled, OHC
Bore Stroke:96.0 mm x 101.0 mm
Compression Ratio: 9.5:1
Fuel System:Fuel Injection
Lubrication:Wet sump
Ignition:Fully transistorized
Transmission:5-speed, constant mesh
Final Drive:Shaft Drive
Overall Length:2390 mm (94.1 in.)
Overall Width:870 mm (34.3 in.)
Overall Height:1100 mm (43.3 in.)
Seat Height:716 mm (28.2 in.)
Ground Clearance:N/A
Wheelbase:1690mm (66.5 in.)
Curb Weight:328kg (723 lbs.)
Suspension Front:Inverted telescopic, coil spring
Suspension Rear:Lynk type, oil damped, coil spring
Brakes Front:2-piston calipers, 290 mm disc, twin
Brakes Rear:2-piston caliper, 275mm disc
Tires Front:120/70ZR18M/C (59W), tubeless
Tires Rear:200/50ZR17M/C (75W), tubeless
Fuel Tank Capacity:18.0 L (4.7 US gal)
Color:Black, Blue, Red

[oasysco]

See comparison above.

Sounds interesting. I'll be waiting to see the pix... clear ones :-P

[Hardway]

Seems late to be entering the chopper market. Just a 200 rear tire? Not really what I would call a bonafide chopper. Might sell for some who want a wannabe chopper. I'm sure the price will be cheap compared to an Iron Horse or the other one I am forgetting the name. Honda will sell a few if the price is under $10k.

[Tombstone270]

How much will the FI kit for our 1300's cost....and is this thing a single pin crank...

The engine size is kinda dissapointing

nobody was buying 1800's they were already making....


tomb

[Caps]

This guy thought the 1300 engine was adequate for a chopper/pro-street platform;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbqHZrqmz4o

[Nicksterdemus]

Don't forget not too long ago 650 was the big bike.

That would be about 40 years ago before the inline 750-4.

Somebody Photoshop that blurry pic.

It's not a Fury, it's a FURRY!

Suddenly, I'm feeling all warm n fuzzy 'bout the furry.

I can see the ads now.

Why ride bitch when you can be the ultimate bitch riding on a Furry!

Follow the leader...She's on a Honda...

[spuu2kie]

I'll keep my eyes peeled for when they release it but, I will wait for that Kawasaki Voyager to announce their price range. I bet this 1300 is on the $11,000 range

[Caps]

The new Honda Fury Looks to be competing with the HD Rocker and Yamaha Raider. I agree they may be a little late but only by a year or so compared to the competition.

I was a little surprised that they stayed with a smaller 1300 engine and a 200 rear tire. The competition has a 1600 & 1800 engine and a 210 & 240 rear tire. I don't consider those to be deal breakers though. What Honda does appear to have in the Fury by the fuzzy pictures is a more raw chopper looking frame in front along with more of a traditional chopper style tank. Those two things alone will probably keep them on top with the competition. My guess is that the Fury will have the most traditional chopper look you can buy in a metric bike.

I have a feeling Honda knew what they were doing since they have been in business for a few years or so;)

[Kevin Kuiper]

I My self can't wait to see the $$$ for this bike!

[X'N]

The new Honda Fury Looks to be competing with the HD Rocker and Yamaha Raider. I agree they may be a little late but only by a year or so compared to the competition.

I was a little surprised that they stayed with a smaller 1300 engine and a 200 rear tire. The competition has a 1600 & 1800 engine and a 210 & 240 rear tire. I don't consider those to be deal breakers though. What Honda does appear to have in the Fury by the fuzzy pictures is a more raw chopper looking frame in front along with more of a traditional chopper style tank. Those two things alone will probably keep them on top with the competition. My guess is that the Fury will have the most traditional chopper look you can buy in a metric bike.

I have a feeling Honda knew what they were doing since they have been in business for a few years or so;)





I agree with what your saying, but why no belt drive when they are cheaper to produce... :-x

I'm not all that excited about this bike now. I think a 1500cc would have been a perfect size. I've always preferred a prostreet style over a chopper style anyhow... guess I'll just have to slap a 240 on my bike...

[toasted_3111979]

:roll:Well so much for waiting with baited breathe.

[dangrousdan]

http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2050850#post2050850

from the original release thread
It "could" be electric with a fake little gas tank;)

It could be a 250

This "release" is a turn off for me
maybe I'm difference than most but I don't LIKE teasers about any news, I can not remember when a hyped up tease did not exceed the level of excitement of the final story.

It may be a pretty cool bike in some ways but does not appear to meet the level of the hype :-? :dontknow:

[nodakbassmaster]

fury flopped... unless there's some interesting stuff still hidden?

[DBoyz]

This guy thought the 1300 engine was adequate for a chopper/pro-street platform;)

It was a biker build-off competion, he did not choose the 1300 engine to build that bike around. He was given a 1300 as a platform for his build.

One good thing about the new Fury, Honda will not be the only one making money if it becomes a hit. Lots of aftermarket retailers selling swingarms and 240 tires and rims.

Guess it's only the wires that are internally wired, because it sure looks like the throttle cables are still out there.

[jgalfo]

I am going to with hold my judgement untill I see clear pictures and price tag. I hope this doesn't mean that some of the existing 1300 models will go away with the addition of the Fury.

with the great success of the 1300 VTX, honda was probably thinking thats the size that will sell, especially in today's lean times.

a new bike...............at least they're (honda) is trying to stay fresh.

John

[Nicksterdemus]

...see right now 36 people on 1800 board and 66 on the 1300 board. I guess Honda sees what's more popular.

How would that line of logic explain the M109r site w/ » Online Users: 119 (http://www.m109riders.com/forums/online.php?)
And that's @ 7:53 AM.

I'll wager there's more than a couple of ex-Honda riders in the crew...

Strangely enough I don't notice the Suzy being slashed to eight bills.

[Lamonster]

Once again Honda is late to the party and most everyone has moved on.

Look how long it took them to figure out a side by side was a good idea.

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/honda-big-red-430-0908.jpg

I think a 1300 is fine for a chopper, back in my day a big chopper was a 750cc.nojoke

If they do as nice of a job as they did on the Rune I think it will be a great bar-hopper if that's what you like to do. The following will be about the same too.

I gave up on Honda doing anything ground breaking a long time ago. It is what it is with Honda and there's still nothing built as well as a Honda and that will always be true even if their product line is shrinking by the minute. :dontknow:

[g1nomad]

I'm pretty sure that is the engine in the VTX minus the fuel injection.

It is my understanding no bike can be sold in the USA in 2010 without
fuel injection, so that probably will be the VTX's engine.

Herb

[Tombstone270]

It is my understanding no bike can be sold in the USA in 2010 without
fuel injection, so that probably will be the VTX's engine.

Herb


I think it is if they can pass emissions standards they can have whatever...HD is having big problems with air cooled....may be a thing of the passed also...

tomb

[BornOnFire]

Well, at least it's progress. Albiet progress in the wrong direction-it is progress. FI for the 1300 engine is about the only significantly new feature on this one. I am also interested to see where they have put the radiator. In the pics, it looks as if it has been drastically redesigned/relocated. Who knows.....:roll:
Trying to look at this in a positive angle, these new designs may be a sign of what's to come with HMC's new 21st century factory. At least the rear tire is a little bigger and the rake is a little longer. Baby Steps?:dontknow:

On another note, I don't see why folks always complain about, "Why there isn't this or that on the new bike?"
You know that you are going to mod the hell out of it anyway! LMAO!!! They should sell a bike without a rear tire, handlebars, and chrome accessories.......

[pme5280]

What with all the talk about breakthrough technology, I expected something truly revolutionary, maybe magnetic replusion in a piston engine. That concept has always intrigued me, and have to wonder why nobody has run with that technology which does exist. Even a hybrid somewhat fascinated me.
Disappointed that thier definition of breakthrough technology is fuel injection. Gee, I can just see that brainstorming session...
P

[sassage]

pretty disappointing...and why's it still so fat? awful heavy for a 'lean, mean chopper'

cut 100 pounds off and a FI 1300 could be fun

[vtxcajun]

I think Honda should have copied the Pro Street Custom the guys on this site built.
By the way, I miss the uncluttered pic of that bike from the old site.

[bobby mac]

I bought my M109 last year because Honda kept dragging their heels and would not come out with a "fat tired cruiser". When I heard the rumors about the Fury, I was a little bit worried that I should have waited another year to buy the 109. After reading this thread and seeing the specs on the Fury, I'm glad I went ahead and bought the 109. I put almost 9000 miles on it last year and loved every one of them :thumbup:

http://www.m109riders.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1245

[KW7DSP]

I wanted a Turbo Charged Diesel.

[Nicksterdemus]

I wanted a twin or triple rotor Wankel...

[Superkam]

LOL has anyone seen this...http://www.hondafury.com/
looks like they just registered the domain name on the 10th of Nov.
someone still trying old tricks.. ha

[mrwhatshisname]

I like it :thumbup: I may be the only one on this board that seems to like the spec.s I hope they have good choices of color and or custom paint.

[ratfink]

why is everyone jumping on board to bash the fury..it sounds cool to me..we'll just have to wait and see...

[VACMAN]

1312cc
113 hp
94 tq
4 valves per cylinder
well thats impressive........................................ ....







if it was the truth:mrgreen:

[VTX1300cnME]

UHHHHHHH, where's the evolutionary product???? Where is the radically "new"???? Honda made some bold statements - and failed. I'm not saying I won't think the bike is cool, or looks great, but it DOES NOT live up to the hype.

Not the first time I've been disappointed by hype. .

By it's very nature it'll let you down. . hype about a new product always promises to be better, faster, stronger, whatever then the other products.

While I am disappointed, a 1300 motor F.I. should be quite quick. . . + the weight has been reduced by a couple pounds (according to Hal's post/comparison), the rake has been extended, as most of us wanted out of a stock scoot.

My point, while I'm disappointed (especially with the 5 speed shaft drive. . come on honda, just one more gear. . PLEASE???) It's not as bad as I thought it'd be. And I'm gonna hold further judgment til I see one. . along with a price tag.

[Hal @ Honda Direct Line]

1312cc
113 hp
94 tq
4 valves per cylinder
well thats impressive........................................ ....







if it was the truth:mrgreen:

I didn't post any numbers like that. Where did you see those?

[Hal @ Honda Direct Line]

Carnac says about $12,500 MSRP

[VTX1300cnME]

Carnac says about $12,500 MSRP

For a 1300 that seems high. . I haven't looked (I'm sure someone will) but isn't the Suzuki 1300 FI closer to 10K? Hell for 12,500 I'm gonna go get a M109R (last I saw, those were 13K) with another 400 cc's in it and a 240 from the factory.

[Bigdog 1]

Just maybe it won't look at all like the picture that was posted. No since in getting all worked up over something you haven't even seen. Nobodies got any money to buy anyway so what's the big deal. Be happy with what you have, I sure am. Happy Thanksgiving everybody.

[bobby mac]

For a 1300 that seems high. . I haven't looked (I'm sure someone will) but isn't the Suzuki 1300 FI closer to 10K? Hell for 12,500 I'm gonna go get a M109R (last I saw, those were 13K) with another 400 cc's in it and a 240 from the factory.

The 109 with it's stock 8.5 inch rear wheel allows a Metz 260 to fit. If you put a 10 inch wheel on the rear, you can fit a 280 with no other modding to your swingarm or fender. The 109 really is a cool bike; you can trick it out very easily. I wish Honda had come out with a similar bike :dontknow:

[Hal @ Honda Direct Line]

We need a photographer.

Rumor says that the bike will be unveiled here during the annual Bike Show:

Where
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
655 West 34th Street
New York, NY 10001
www.javitscenter.com (http://www.javitscenter.com/)When Friday, January 16
Noon - 9:00pm Saturday, January 17
9:00am - 9:00pm Sunday, January 18
9:00am - 5:00pm

[BornOnFire]

I wouldn't be too surprised if we see some spy pics of it before then....

I don't think folks should be too disapointed with this new model just yet! :banghead:

I, for one, will need to see it in it's entirety before I pass my final verdict. Even with the smaller tank, perhaps the EFI and lighter curb weight will compensate for the mileage and make it realitive to the existing 1300 Tank size/mileage ratio? Who knows? Maybe theres a blower on that puppy that will produce numbers like we've never seen before! :lol: (A man can dream can't he?")

[Tombstone]

C'MON HONDA! Jeez! When I first started riding, YOU were the premiere motorcycle brand out of Japan. YOU introduced America to its first superbike (CB750K0), its first luxery dresser (GL1000 Goldwing), and an assortment of other firsts. YOU set the bar for the industry. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?!?!? Please Honda...I'm begging you...impress us like you once did...amaze us like you so often did...present something that will bring us back into the fold.

[mad750]

[QUOTE=birdiemn;2069907]It's been said before, and it needs to be said again:

[I][B]There is no such thing as a factory made chopper.


I think we're the only two people on this board that thinks this!!

Big Dog= not choppers!

Texas= not choppers!

Big Bear= not choppers!

Honda= not choppers!

The "Fury" is just another reason for others to make fun of Honda. Talk about trying too hard. Even if it does come out looking "hard" or "badass" it's still gonna be made with a crap load of plastic and if you roll up to your local "neon bike night" and park next to a bike that is a real "chopper", you're gonna feel pretty stupid. If you don't feel dumb at that point you probably like Celine Dion and sit down while you pee.


Just my option.

[Nicksterdemus]

impress us like you once did...amaze us like you so often did...present something that will bring us back into the fold.

Team up w/Mazda and slap a triple rotor in the beast. Forgetabout the chopper coz I'd like a little handling and call it the Tempest...

[slip944]

We need a photographer.

Rumor says that the bike will be unveiled here during the annual Bike Show:

Where
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
655 West 34th Street
New York, NY 10001
www.javitscenter.com (http://www.javitscenter.com/)When Friday, January 16
Noon - 9:00pm Saturday, January 17
9:00am - 9:00pm Sunday, January 18
9:00am - 5:00pm

Cool I will be there :-P

[Biodude]

We need a photographer.

Rumor says that the bike will be unveiled here during the annual Bike Show:

Where
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
655 West 34th Street
New York, NY 10001
www.javitscenter.com (http://www.javitscenter.com/)When Friday, January 16
Noon - 9:00pm Saturday, January 17
9:00am - 9:00pm Sunday, January 18
9:00am - 5:00pm


I will be there

[icopus]

Thanks for the info Hal. I appreciate it.

As far as the product being too late... Uummm... WHAT?!? When did motorcycles become a fashion statement??? I've liked choppers since I was kid. Still do. Obviously, Honda research says they will sell. But then again, apparently Honda research says the 1800 VTX has come to an end.:dontknow:

UHHHHHHH, ... it DOES NOT live up to the hype.When has any product ever lived up to the commercial hype preceding it's unveiling? Anyone remember :click:"IT (http://www.yaleherald.com/archive/xxxii/12.07.01/news/p4b.html)"?:shock::lol::roll:

[srkr]

Here's some advise. Go out and buy the left over 1800's. They are a steal. I love my VTX. 64000 miles and she's as strong and reliable as a railroad watch. Listen to what I'm saying. They are not making the VTX 1800 anymore. It's over!

All you naysayers who are dissing Honda for dropping the ball need to understand something....It's hard to fix something thats so pure and fine as perfection. Yea, Ive been here long enough to hear about the problems the VTX has had ...but you know what? They all have problems and <knock on wood> I haven't had any. I love my X and will ride her until she dies.

Be happy Honda riders, Honda makes the best motorcycle in the world...BAR NONE.

:twisted:

Shane
:joke:

[sunnbobb]

hmmm, looks like there will still be a market for true choppers... I better get busy building more.

[Nicksterdemus]

And the Hond Furry is the perfect platform for RUB's in training.



http://blog.meevee.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/22/soa_02pilot_5165_2.jpg

Do make sure and pick up your furry colors and don't forget the bottom rocker to let the world know where you hail from, Brah...


http://www.lematin.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2008/06/sons_of_anarchy_zoom.jpg

[mad750]

"As far as the product being too late... Uummm... WHAT?!? When did motorcycles become a fashion statement??? I've liked choppers since I was kid. Still do. Obviously, Honda research says they will sell. But then again, apparently Honda research says the 1800 VTX has come to an end."


A FASHION STATEMENT!!?!?!?

These days, most everyone likes to think of their scoot as a statement or otherwise they would have never added a chrome doo-dad to their kickstand or added some crazy neon. If it wasn't fashion they would never buy into whatever brand they like and wear it to Starbucks on a weekend morning. If you don't step off your bike and say "she sure looks good" you're in the wrong place. The media has brought this kind of "lifestyle" into the everyday kind of person. The media has taken what was "outlaw" or "badass" and made it into a bite sized morsal that everybody can digest and feel comfortable with. Bikes are an extension of ones self. Once somebody has to do a research on what people want that within its self becomes fashion and fake. If Honda is too late to be bringing out a product, I will say YES.

First off let me say that choppers were about individuality.

Today, because of the crapy media, choppers have become a "cool" thing. People now see a shiny, way to big tire, trying to look bad ass, not one thing chopped on it kinda of bike. Enter the first time badass, credit card buying, dress up in leathers to ride 5 miles just show everybody all their "hardware" crowd. Companys realised with the popularity of these shows they could rake in some money... and they did big time. SUCKAS!! They did their research. The trend for production "choppers" is dying down. Search Craigslist and see what's happening. Look at egay and see what's happening. These so called "choppers" are being sold off because the "fashion statement" is no longer in style, so their off onto the next big thing. Some are staying in it... good. Most are getting out... good riddance!

Timing is everything and Honda got it right with the VTX. The Fury is still yet to be seen but if Honda really did do some research they would have kept the 1800 line and listened to boards like this and the people that ride their bikes and understand that the following behind the VTX is strong and true. Jumping on a trend or "fashion statement" this late is just a bad choice. They might as well bring back hyper color t-shirts. They are cool aren't they?

I could go on.

Just an option and mine has lint in it.

[icopus]

MAD750 -
I appreciate and agree with the essence of your response.

Yes, I agree that the media has put motorcycles, particularly choppers, into the limelight. But not so much so that motorcycle enthusiasts consider them passe or 'out of style', particularly choppers.

I believe that a good looking scoot is timeless whether or not it is custom or mass produced. To that end, I believe the Honda "chopper" will sell well.

Where all the major motorcycle manufactures failed was in not coming out with the style 20-30 years ago.

The closest to this I can think of is the Suzuki Boulevard S83. Originally called the Intruder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Intruder), this 'custom' has changed relatively little since it's debut in 1987. I don't know what the current sales figures are (obviously, it's not their current best seller), but it's still on the showroom floors and it still catches my eye on the road.

This leads me to speculate that Honda won't settle for anything less than a full line of major sellers. That's unfortunate for those of us who are not ones to jump on a bandwagon. And this is THE reason why I cannot become brand loyal to Honda.

All this reminds me of Charlie The Tuna

[Bassdude404]

It's been said before, and it needs to be said again:

There is no such thing as a factory made chopper.

As Phil says: wrench up, do it yourself. :tools:
I totally agree....I'd rather buy a used-up basket case 750 inline four, and build my own in my garage...Here's an example of a REAL chopper guys...

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/Bassdude404/scan0010.jpg

My dad's buddy/co-worker built this in his shop....70-something Honda 750 engine, Santee frame, stock extended forks, diamond gas tank, and lots of swap meet scrounging for the rest of the parts...He rode this for a few years until he got t-boned in his cage...Messed his right knee up pretty bad...He sold the chopper to another guy at work, and got started building this one....

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/Bassdude404/scan0011.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/Bassdude404/scan0012.jpg

Another Honda 750 engine in this trike..That dude only bought Honda's (putting helmet on)...Never rode anything else....

[harcosparky]

We need a photographer.

Rumor says that the bike will be unveiled here during the annual Bike Show:

Where
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
655 West 34th Street
New York, NY 10001
www.javitscenter.com (http://www.javitscenter.com/)When Friday, January 16
Noon - 9:00pm Saturday, January 17
9:00am - 9:00pm Sunday, January 18
9:00am - 5:00pm

I will try to make it up there for this event.

Been looking for an excuse to hop the train and head up to NYC !!! :D

[vipros]

When I look at the VTX 1800 I see "what could have been". With just a few refinements this bike could have been the ultimate cruiser/sport cruiser machine. Give it a 4 valve head. Give it a 6th gear. Give it a 6 gal. tank. Give it a REAL touring version with good sized hard bags (like the aftermarket brands) and acessories such as power outlets and pre-wired for mp3 player/intercom. Give it an optional fairing (like the HD Streetglide).
I would have been happy to spend the extra money up front to get these things stock than spending the money AND the time to modify my bike to make it more functional. Even still, I wouldn't sell my bike to buy anything else that's on the market today. Good things don't last forever so enjoy them while they're here.
BTW Honda has shown thruout it's history that when they want to build something that's cutting edge and revolutionary they can do it better than anyone.

[Scotrod1965]

I still feel like Honda will unveil something 'else' in the not so distant future,,, I don't believe that the Fury is all we can anticipate,,,

I still think the power cruiser market is alive,,, I don't believe Honda will make a 1300 their biggest and best offering,,,

Could be wrong, but EVERY OTHER mainstream MC mfg has 'bigger' offerings than a 1300 in a power cruiser/""'chopper'"" offering,,,

Maybe the 1800 will just fade away,,,, but,,,, something else will probably take its place,,,

I don't believe the Fury is it,,,,

First the DN-01, then the Fury, and next,,,,?

Time will tell,,,,,,

[mad750]

The best thing about motorcycles and the things we love best about them, either production or homebuilt, is that they will never cease to amaze us. That is one reason I'm a third generation rider. It amazed my grandfather, my father, myself and my future. Bring on tomorrow but please stop bastardizing terms that are true. Yes, I'm a purist in someways. Let the Fury build it's own history. The reason I love my bikes are because they are MINE!!! My rant is over.

It's all just my opinion and it's full of lint.

[Bassdude404]

Here are my REAL Hondas!! Made there, made cool here!!!

I built it.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee46/mad750_album/P1000828.jpg

I built it.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee46/mad750_album/ajchop-1.jpg

I ride em!! This is my daily rider.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee46/mad750_album/chop31.jpg

My VTX is out when I go grocery shopping or the lady wants to go out. I have six scoots!! You need options man! The VTX will be my last "new" Honda I will ever buy.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee46/mad750_album/P8110015.jpg
And me on an original Denvers Choppers bike. A BONIFIDE REAL CHOPPER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp2IiTFuMJs
REAL choppers!!!!..Cool man!!!! :thumbup:...A chopper isn't something you go buy from a dealership...The whole "Chopper" thing was guys buying stock bikes, then pulling (chopping) everything off it that wasn't needed and chucking that crap in the nearest trash can...Then in the 60's and 70's companies like Paughco and Santee saw a market for frames and other custom parts, which helped regular guys build a bike to their taste in their own garage....

We rode in an MDA ride on labor day, and one of those $30,000 choppers didn't even make it 15 miles before it was dead along the highway....Sucked to be that guy!!!...:lol:

[Scotrod1965]

If an 'old school' chopper is what cha want, then go for it.

By far, the vast majority (99.9%) of ALL MC riders don't have the time, intelligence, resources, or, even if they did, the desire to build their own bike. (How many of the 38,000 of us here at VTXOA, save for mad750, truly build and ride their own?????)

Lotsa bikes here in Houston, I've seen untold thousands on the road, at rally's and at shows. 'Old school' "choppers" are extremely rare. And just because they are 'rare' doesn't mean that everybody wants one. It actually proves just the opposite, in my book.

If the 'chopper' thing started back before Santee and Paughco started makin frames, eh well, then that would be 50 years ago. It's not suprising that changes to the 'original' definition of 'chopper' have occured, especially changes made by those of us who weren't even born when this stuff started.

Nothing wrong with being a purist, but evolution has been, and will continue to change every aspect of our lives. If ya wanna retain a part of that past, that's your option and you are welcome to it. Just don't feel bummed out or act suprised if the rest of the world modifies, improves upon, or even deletes what you wish to remain unchanged.

If Honda wants to put out their own version or interpretation of a 'chopper', I guess that's their option. I'm not a 'chopper' kinda guy, be it old or new school.

It is kinda nice to see an 'old school' bike every now and then, (if it's done up right, and not some half-baked POS).

Kinda like it's neat to see an old T bucket,,,

But,,, I'm more than content to take a look, turn around, hop on my 18, push a button, and ride away.

[MaxBruce]

NO ONE has told me the horsepower/ torque values.
100+hp would change my mind. ;)
maxB

[Chicago-Spike]

NO ONE has told me the horsepower/ torque values.
100+hp would change my mind. ;)
maxB
Out of a 1300, nope won;t be that high, might be in the 70's

[Nicksterdemus]

and not some half-baked POS

For a second there I thought I resembled that remark, but then I took note that there was no "old" betwixt some N half...

100+hp would change my mind

An 1800 & around 1500 clams would put you right on the mark

[sunnbobb]

(How many of the 38,000 of us here at VTXOA, save for mad750, truly build and ride their own?????)well, ah, um, i do.. (grin)

http://www.nakedgoldwings.com/albums/PART-TWO/meddle_bw_at_pumps.sized.jpg



http://www.nakedgoldwings.com/albums/PART-TWO/meddle_bw_at_pumps.sized.jpg

[KW7DSP]

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/KW7DSP/ShinsCustomRice.jpg

750 Chopper built with only a 19 dollar cutoff tool and a 99 dollar 120 volt stick welder.


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/KW7DSP/750beforeandafter-1.jpg

Identical 750's before and after.

[Nicksterdemus]

Love seein' the down home, homegrown choppers. Many a Honda 750 was revived to live another life as a chopper. Cheap, plentiful, dependable and ran like only an inline four could. Sweeeeet...

[BigRedFlamin-X]

My take ...
On one hand, it's kinda cool that Honda comes out with twists like the Fury from the factory. The problem is that they're extremely niche-oriented, but they're hyped like they're the next big thing that's going to revolutionize the industry. The Rune, and now the Fury, would spark some interest in the brand, but they are NOT going to appeal to the masses, and they certainly are not going to save sales or springboard them over their competitors.

HD does this all the time, but they market them like the limited editions that they are. They keep their lines fresh and interesting. Honda (and other manufacturers) should take a cue.

Models like the Magna and the original Valkyrie, while maybe not moving record-breaking volumes, at least differentiated the brand. Right now, Honda appears desperate just trying to keep up with the competition.

[jgalfo]

where I live at every local bike night or show the choppers draw a lot of attention still. so people still love the look.

the drawbacks are they are either not comfortable to ride or they are not reliable and require lots of attention.

imagine a chopper that looks good, is customizible, with reasonable power (like the 1300 VTX) with the Honda rideability and reliability.

there may be a larger market than we know.

John

[Jynxx]

They keep their lines fresh and interesting. Honda (and other manufacturers) should take a cue.


Wait, you're saying Harley keeps their lines fresh and interesting? I'm sorry, but that's the last manufacturer I'd ever say that about. Their bikes are stale, and have been for a long time. But that's also their claim to fame. Classic styling (should call it antique styling) and leaving what works alone makes them who they are.

Just for fun, I picked a year out of thin air (1975) and ran google image searches on the Harley FLH line. Here's what I found:


1975 Harley. Nice eh?
http://www.hdmotorcyclesforsale.com/prodImages/DSC02275.JPG

1985 Harley.
http://www.bokblad.se/Mina/ny.JPG

1995 Harley.
http://www.classybikes.com/image.php?image_id=280794

2005 Harley.
http://www.classybikes.com/image.php?image_id=253400




30 year span here. See anything fresh or new?



And to think people are bitching about the 1800 not changing in 7 years.

[Mason]

Well, at least they changed the seat design almost slightly....... There..... That otta' freshen things up a bit..... :lol:

Wait!.... Was that a test??..... :shrug:

[KW7DSP]

Harley built its success on not making changes and offering very little in the way of new or innovative. That is why they stay popular. An just why anyone would think Choppers are out of style is beyond me. Those who enjoy choppers and one offs are still there, and a factory production chopper or semi chopper will do well. A chopper is not for the Cruiser Crowd or the Crotch Rocket children. Although a true chopper is a take off anything not required to make it run bike, even the Arlen Nesse's and Orange County Boys are mass producing Semi Chopper One Off Look-A-Likes.

I still wanted a diesel.


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/KW7DSP/ShinsCustomRice.jpg

P.S. The "Rice Chopper" pictured above cost less than $100 to build and the bike was free. It recycles original parts such as the shocks were welded into struts for the hard tail effect and the springs were used for the "Springer" look.

[ReaperDoc]

[quote=KW7DSP;2075397].... I still wanted a diesel.

Yeah! With those big a$$ pipes sticking way up in the air and a 5' twisted chrome sissy bar!! ...and a Micky Thompson Darkside mod...and a glitter seat... will "schwinn" fit on a license plate?

Just :joke:, but a rat chopper could be a fun addition to the stable.

[bigdaddy1]

Guess I'll join the throng here. I dont care.

I have my 1300, plenty for me.

[Tombstone270]

If the price is right... they will sale ...at least as well as the 1800's....:joke:


tomb

[jgalfo]

a 1300cc fuel injected chopper, as posted by Hal

what does it look like? no one knows yet.

John

[FR33K]

Gotta say I'm kinda feeling stupid for looking forward to this bike.

Sorry, but another mid-size cruiser?

I had hopes that we were looking at a 1900+ bike to compete with the other large cruisers.

Guess I'm going to just pick up another left-over 1800 to cut up myself. No doubt I'll spend the same, but will end up with a 240+ rear tire, a better custom fit, and a larger fuel tank :p

[ReaperDoc]

Well guys, this has made me do some thinking. I remember a classmate in college that had a 750 "chopper". I've been looking for a project and don't have the time, money or space for the El Camino or little pick-up. I refuse to screw up my "baby" so it's time to start gathering a true basket case. Mad750, you're an inspitation! ...more later, maybe much later.

[Reaper]

The price im hearing is 12,000 area

[vtxbronco]

got this info from a dealer here on long island..the bike will be revealed jan,16....the photo hal originaly put up is not it.....

Guess if the 1800 guys want a real chopper they will have to step up to the 1300.
HELLO CHAMPION HONDA RIDER,

WE JUST COMPLETED OUR VIEWING OF THE NEW HONDA
FURY MOTORCYCLE COMING THIS MARCH. THE PHOTOS ON THE INTERNET THAT ARE
CICULATING ARE NOT THE CORECT PHOTOS. AMERICAN HONDA WILL NOT RELEASE ANY
PHOTOS TILL THE MODEL UNVAILING ON JANUARY 16TH 2009. WE CAN TELL YOU
THIS: THE BIKE IS LIKE NOTHING EVER RELEASED FROM ANY OEM MANUFACTURER.IT
WILL KNOCK YOUR EYES OUT! IT IS A REAL CHOPPER. IT IS A FUEL INJECTED 1300
CC V-TWIN, IT COMES IN 5 COLORS AND WILL BE AVAILABLE IN VERY LIMITED
QUANTITIES IN MARCH.

[BleedScarlet]

I'm excited to see how this comes out, it looks very promising :)

[Chicago-Spike]

We'll try this again.

This IS the Honda resleased photo of the Fury taken from the dealer web-show
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/Chicago-Spike/Spikes%20custom%20Bars/Honda_Fury_dealer-thumb-415x253.jpg?t=1229709233


This is NOT the Fury, old pictures of an 1800;
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/Chicago-Spike/Spikes%20custom%20Bars/HondaSpy3qs-thumb-415x287.jpg?t=1229709296


The top photo IS the picture Hal posted, and it IS of the new Fury

[Tombstone270]

Disinformation or Misinformation, what we have here is a failure to communicate...lol







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[MR VTX]

Disinformation or Misinformation, what we have here is a failure to communicate...lol

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/images/smilies/lmbo.gif

[paddywagon]

This is startin to sound like a Harley board with everyone saying whats constitutes a "real" or "cool" bike. THats gonna be different for everyone. Personally I'm not a fan of the 240 and all these fat tire bikes. Unless you're 400 pounds they look stupid...anything past that (280 300) is just compensating for lack of something else and the suzuki 109?...Just plain FUGLY! You know just my thoughts. What does it matter to you what someone else rides anyway?
As for the bike being a fashion statement? I just simply done have time for that. My bike gets ridden EVERYDAY rain or shine and more often than not I dont have time to wash it. If I like the Fury I might consider it, if I dont I wont, but I wont cry about what I think honda should or shouldnt make cuz I'm happy with MY bike.
:popcorn:

[Reaper]

LOL to much time on your hands people. The 1300 came out because of people complaining about how big the 1800 was. Now I love my 1800 and will never give it up, and I am looking soon for a bike to play with as a toy. I dont want an old bike, I want it new and updated. Now I wanted something faster then my 1800 right off the floor, and to tell you the truth the Raider so far has been my pic. I think the M109 looks fugly. Now I love Hondas only owned one bike my whole life that wasnt a Honda, and thats because of how well they have surved me, and my Dad raised me being loyal to a company unless they bend you over. So far Honda has not done this to me, BUT! I will buy from who ever makes this next bike I buy, as it is in a specialty place in my head. My VTX 1800 will always be my main ride. Now all this complaining here, and I would do this different, and that different, well then dont buy a Honda, or open your own place and show how you can do it better. I would have really loved to have seen a bigger motor in the Fury, but there has been a decline in bigger motor interest, and Honda as a company im shure isnt going to always do what others do, so is the fury differnt and new, yes to a big extent it is. Everyone has been wanting fuel injection on the 1300, and they are doing it, also it could very well be that the 1800 are not being made so Honda can spend some time rethinking the VTX, and maybe make one with a bigger motor then the 1800. If I wanted a bike that never changed and always was the same as the next guy, then a HD would have been the pick, but since I like a well made bike, and one made to last, they are, and will be my very last pick. I work for a Honda dealer and can tell you over this past summer we sold about 3-4 1800s all season, but 1300 went almost daily. Number one complaint I get about 1300s is they all want fuel injection. I think the 1300 are just way more fun to ride, but again when I got my 1800 it costed me 300.00 more then the 1300 would have, NOW let me see fuel injection, duel front brakes, and more motor for 300.00! I could not say no, but I never got over the thought of just how much better it felt sitting and riding the 1300. Also untill Honda puts the fury out there, and people get it, and ride it, and get to review it, we dont really know what it will be. I havent seen any real pics, or real run down on the Fury, but my boss has, and he gave me a very good run down on what he was shown, and told by Honda, the first thing out of my mouth was (Why the *** Not an 1800 ? ) His answer was ( Maybe because they are not doing 1800s, they may want to use the proven 1300s with the improved fuel injection.) I got a thought after the talk that maybe comming up all the 1300s may have fuel injection, and maybe the new power cruiser will come soon there after with a bigger and badder motor then the 1800. The new wing comming out will be sporting a bigger motor.

I do have to say, if what I hear of 12,000 dollar range is true, it will be hard not to buy the Raider instaed at the same 12,000 area, but as I said the Fury is new, and I will wait to see it.

So I guess im holding back anythoughts of buying a second bike right now, and waiting to see and ride the Fury, and I WILL GET TO SEE AND RIDE ONE VERY SOON!

This post was not intended to offend or belittle anyone, only to hopfully give a bit more thought.


Now go hug your kids, or wife, or girlfriend, or wife and girl friend, but go have fun with something you can see and touch right now, LMFAO

[Motorbike_mike1]

If you check out Dealership web pages those that are on the spot and taking Action will have them posted the 15th. price may be lower than originally thought.

[mrwhatshisname]

if the economy improves for me in 2009 I will be buying the fury if the boss lets me :lol::lol::lol:

[race66]

Wow, a fuel injected 1300 with a smaller tank and a raked front end. Someone hit it on the head, 5 years too late on the chopper craze guys. ;)

maybe....

at the local bike night, 700 bikes, guess which ones the crowd gathers around the most?

the choppers, but you already know that.

whether they have a little coffin tank and anemic little motor or a big stretched tank and aftermarket twin.

doesn't seem to matter. choppers attract attention.