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EnsignCrusher
12-31-2008, 10:57 AM
Honda Fury patent images (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/)

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_chopper_1-thumb-415x259.jpg

nomercyambulance
12-31-2008, 11:11 AM
That does look pretty sweet. Won't be trading the 1300-R for it.

jamaga
12-31-2008, 11:12 AM
Not enough there to make me want to trade (up or down). I will just keep my 13T and let the younger generation who have not seen a chopper jump on the honda bandwagon. I can remember as a kid leading the Oakland Chapter of the Hell's Angels through my home town on a BSA 350 lunger and the only reason I was out front was the fear they would catch me before I got home.:yikes:

Wolfen
12-31-2008, 11:19 AM
Not enough there to make me want to trade (up or down). I will just keep my 13T and let the younger generation who have not seen a chopper jump on the honda bandwagon. I can remember as a kid leading the Oakland Chapter of the Hell's Angels through my home town on a BSA 350 lunger and the only reason I was out front was the fear they would catch me before I got home.:yikes:

Not quite sure that is called "leading" but its all good. :thumbup:

cybrhick
12-31-2008, 11:53 AM
I like the softtail look. Rims are so-so. The rake doesn't look all that extreme. Looks like the plug covers off of an 1800. Maybe a digital speedo on the bars there. Nothing that jumps out though, to lend any credence to the folks who say it has all this new technology and thinking built into it. I don't know. It's only a sketch. I'm just gonna wait to see what the real bike looks like.

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 12:05 PM
Honda Fury patent images (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/)

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_chopper_1-thumb-415x259.jpg
Good find.

Scotrod1965
12-31-2008, 12:07 PM
Larger pics on this site:


http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/December/29-31/dec3108-Honda-fury-technology-revealed/?&R=EPI-105171

Enlarge them once at the site.

Both sides shown.

xcelr8t
12-31-2008, 12:10 PM
I'll be at the Motorcycle show in NY and if it's there I will take pics and post here.

Biodude
12-31-2008, 12:10 PM
I just want the FI

lv2cruz
12-31-2008, 12:19 PM
Yep, looks like a motorcycle.

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 12:19 PM
http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20081231/6/b/6/6b665c1788cd70ef7cc1ce58c2971f4b0_large.jpg

Wolfen
12-31-2008, 12:22 PM
Can't say I'm impressed... has some semblance to a chopper, but still contains way too many characteristics of an average production bike.

A radical exhaust or other changes would definitely be in order.

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 12:25 PM
Can't say I'm impressed... has some semblance to a chopper, but still contains way too many characteristics of an average production bike.

A radical exhaust or other changes would definitely be in order.

Have you ever eaten leftovers? You know you have eaten it before but the taste is always a little different.

And don't forget that Honda is a lot smarter than all of us.

Scotrod1965
12-31-2008, 12:26 PM
Good find.


I'm not gonna ask Hal this, as it's not a fair question, given the gag order he has from Honda, but,

To anyone else,,,


In my opinion, based solely on what we've been given for Fury specifications previously, these drawings may be a depiction of what the Fury may look like, as I see no obvious conflicts between the sparse information that we have and what is seen in these drawings.

Does anyone see any obvious conflicts between what we have officially been given from Honda and what is seen in these sketches?

Wolfen
12-31-2008, 12:27 PM
Have you ever eaten leftovers? You know you have eaten it before but the taste is always a little different.

too true... but you always add a little something extra to those left overs ;)

Scotrod1965
12-31-2008, 12:33 PM
Can't say I'm impressed... has some semblance to a chopper, but still contains way too many characteristics of an average production bike.

A radical exhaust or other changes would definitely be in order.


You can always 'chop' your 'chopper'! LOL!!!

Wild guess, but 90% of the 'cruiser' bike riders change pipes anyway,,,

Perhaps some Mortons, custom paint the tins, some chrome do-dads, that would come pretty close to the 2009 urban definition of chopper,,,

Tombstone270
12-31-2008, 12:34 PM
Have you ever eaten leftovers? You know you have eaten it before but the taste is always a little different.


Indeed....

tomb

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 12:35 PM
I'm not gonna ask Hal this, as it's not a fair question, given the gag order he has from Honda, but,

To anyone else,,,


In my opinion, based solely on what we've been given for Fury specifications previously, these drawings may be a depiction of what the Fury may look like, as I see no obvious conflicts between the sparse information that we have and what is seen in these drawings.

Does anyone see any obvious conflicts between what we have officially been given from Honda and what is seen in these sketches?

First, Honda hasn't released anything. And until we see the actual bike a lot of things are up in the air. I am looking for the new technology and I see a lot of reliable VTX and Shadow parts melded together. The air intake is different to cover the fuel injection.

Scotrod1965
12-31-2008, 12:39 PM
Didn't Honda release written specifications?

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 12:43 PM
Didn't Honda release written specifications?


No, we were just shown a piece of paper and we had to write fast if we wanted to copy it. But that was it.

Biodude
12-31-2008, 12:46 PM
Hal... can you send me a 52 inch monitor so i can see all that pic :joke:


:p

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 12:54 PM
Hal... can you send me a 52 inch monitor so i can see all that pic :joke:


:p

No. but I will fix it when I get back home later today.

vtxbronco
12-31-2008, 12:56 PM
i would by this bike instead the raider by yamaha..its fury's only compitition...and its a no-brainer....yammi wins..
very disappointing....sorry hal and chicago spike..im going to drink now its almost noon time...:(http://www.starmotorcycles.com/assets/content/images/600/09ST_Raider_S_Rav_S1_7757fdc3.jpg

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_Chopper_2-thumb-415x278.jpg

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 01:02 PM
i would by this bike instead the raider by yamaha..its fury's only compitition...and its a no-brainer....yammi wins..
very disappointing....sorry hal and chicago spike..im going to drink now its almost noon time...:(http://www.starmotorcycles.com/assets/content/images/600/09ST_Raider_S_Rav_S1_7757fdc3.jpg

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_Chopper_2-thumb-415x278.jpg

The only issue that Spike and I had were that people kept using the wrong photos when they talked about the Fury.

Tombstone270
12-31-2008, 01:12 PM
The only issue that Spike and I had were that people kept using the wrong photos when they talked about the Fury.


Now that i have seen the side by side...Well I think I like the Fury Better needs a neck cover .....but nicer lines IMHO

tomb

Grof
12-31-2008, 01:12 PM
good find.

i thought you know everything, you have seen everything, but no you don't know nothing more than i know, i know only what i see on web. Don't take it personaly i am just too exciting to see it "fury' hahahaaa i'l hold on 1300r.

Biodude
12-31-2008, 01:15 PM
No. but I will fix it when I get back home later today.

Darn, Hal, i was hoping for a free TV :lol:

The only issue that Spike and I had were that people kept using the wrong photos when they talked about the Fury.

to me I dont think the new thing is that far of a stretch from those old vtx prototype pics. Which, I guess, is part of the disappointment so far. Anyway. NY show is soon. So until then. :-|

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 01:15 PM
i thought you know everything, you have seen everything, but no you don't know nothing more than i know, i know only what i see on web. Don't take it personaly i am just too exciting to see it "fury' hahahaaa i'l hold on 1300r.


You are exactly right. I just post information I come across as a source for the information that hasn't been widely distributed. If you would prefer that I don't do that please let me know.

Tombstone270
12-31-2008, 01:25 PM
i thought you know everything, you have seen everything, but no you don't know nothing more than i know, i know only what i see on web. Don't take it personaly i am just too exciting to see it "fury' hahahaaa i'l hold on 1300r.


:crackpipe:

Poison
12-31-2008, 01:28 PM
Hmm...looks like a vtx 1300 engine with a different intake and left side coolant overflow (probably to make room for the softtail suspension)

Left side front brake
digital speedo cluster on the bars
LED rear lights like the F
Controls look a bit more forward than a stock X.
Cant see the radiator...and they will have needed to move quite a bit of coolant related plumbing off the top of the engine.

Not a real fan of choppers, but overall a nice look. Much nicer than the Raider which is fugly IMO.

Capt. Rory
12-31-2008, 02:00 PM
No wires, cables, or hoses. Interesting. :dontknow:

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
12-31-2008, 02:08 PM
Hal... can you send me a 52 inch monitor so i can see all that pic :joke:


:p

The picture is fixed.

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20081231/6/b/6/6b665c1788cd70ef7cc1ce58c2971f4b0_large.jpg

kajunkruzer
12-31-2008, 03:05 PM
Too bad they couldn't do a left side brake on the rear to open up the right side. A drawing gives you only so much, but I think pictures of the actual bike will give us a much better idea. I am more interested in what the price will be tho

dbgorange
12-31-2008, 04:03 PM
I got bored while waiting on a contractor to call...

Biodude
12-31-2008, 04:15 PM
I got bored while waiting on a contractor to call...

while your bored how about extending the gas tank forward and down, or maybe throw a nice chrome nitrous bottle or even better a heineken mini keg in the giant abscess in the front frame

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:XiTGrQM6cbzrDM:http://www.s2.com.br/s2arquivos/467/Imagens/2556Image.jpg

dbgorange
12-31-2008, 07:01 PM
How's about starting over and making a bike that anybody would really care to own

Scotrod1965
12-31-2008, 07:38 PM
i would by this bike instead the raider by yamaha..its fury's only compitition...and its a no-brainer....yammi wins..
very disappointing....sorry hal and chicago spike..im going to drink now its almost noon time...:(http://www.starmotorcycles.com/assets/content/images/600/09ST_Raider_S_Rav_S1_7757fdc3.jpg

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_Chopper_2-thumb-415x278.jpg

At first glance, these 2 bikes could be 'brothers',,,

Sure, one's Air cooled, ones water,,, tins/exhaust are a bit different, but, IMHO, the 'lines' are very similar,,,

j1mmyj4m
12-31-2008, 07:41 PM
The side covers appear to be scooped. So, I suspect that those who have mentioned that the radiator is under the seat is what Honda has been referring too as "ground breaking". Maybe the internal wiring as well. While custom builders have offered these for a long time the larger companies aren't known for it.

We'll see.

Scotrod1965
12-31-2008, 08:25 PM
The side covers appear to be scooped. So, I suspect that those who have mentioned that the radiator is under the seat is what Honda has been referring too as "ground breaking". Maybe the internal wiring as well. While custom builders have offered these for a long time the larger companies aren't known for it.

We'll see.

I was one of those who thought the Rad would be under the seat,,, but,,,

According to one person who posted here, he indicated he saw some pics of the Fury that a dealers Rep had, and the Rad is still in the front,,, :-?

A neat concept with the rad under the seat, but I'm not sure that the Fury is so equipped.

Kinda hope it is, just to give more creedence to the 'ground breaking' talk,,,

Also note, wiring, cables, BRAKE LINES, and (possibly the radiator) may not be shown in these 'sketches' but may show up in the 'real world',,,

Example:
http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=110&pictureid=3053

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_Chopper_2-thumb-415x278.jpg

Kruzer
12-31-2008, 11:18 PM
If you really read the website from these pictures were taken, even though they show the alleged Fury, they also are calling the early VTX the Fury and we all know that bike pictured is NOT the Fury. I read that somewhere :grin:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/hondafuryspy2/honda-fury-patent-1.php

Rlee1031
01-01-2009, 12:20 AM
the most I see is the offset braking one left one right. no huge suprise but I guess you could say it will be the most reliable production custom bike around if it follows with the vtx lines.

Scotrod1965
01-01-2009, 01:53 AM
If you really read the website from these pictures were taken, even though they show the alleged Fury, they also are calling the early VTX the Fury and we all know that bike pictured is NOT the Fury. I read that somewhere :grin:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/hondafuryspy2/honda-fury-patent-1.php


Fury:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_dealer-thumb-415x253.jpg (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/images/Honda_Fury_dealer.jpg)

Not the Fury. 2003 1800 prototype:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/assets_c/2008/12/HondaSpy3qs-thumb-415x287.jpg (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/images/HondaSpy3qs.jpg)



The 'HAIL for Leather' website needs to stick to Leather!

(And SOLO-MOTO needs to apologize for shabby reporting!)

Redryder1300
01-01-2009, 09:18 AM
Hidden shock is nice. I do think honda spends alot of time on R&D (R@D) so quality is still high importance. My local honda shop says they do more work on Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki's more than there own Honda's. But, if honda would design the 1300R/S/C like the designs of the 1800 models, I like that better.

shadango
01-01-2009, 09:24 AM
And don't forget that Honda is a lot smarter than all of us.

...don't know if I would go that far.

Honda thought the Rune was there next big thing. Lots of people didn't like it.

Me, personally, I would snatch one up in a heartbeat if I could. :)

The Fury may end up being the same thing...appeals to ceratin group of folks but not others.

The drawing is OK.....line drawings dont give a real view though....it may have that "certain something" that'll turn people on in real life.....the drawing doesn't really "do it" for me, but I wont make a call on my opinion till I see the real deal.

Motor really seems to resemble the VTX line, at least on the right side....

Redryder1300
01-01-2009, 09:27 AM
Shadango, do you put chains on them wheels???lol:D Looking at that avatar, damn. New meaning to polar bear ride.

Chicago-Spike
01-01-2009, 09:32 AM
No lines wires, cables or hoses on the bars because they are supposed to be run inside the bars

shadango
01-01-2009, 09:36 AM
Shadango, do you put chains on them wheels???lol:D Looking at that avatar, damn. New meaning to polar bear ride.

LOL

Well, if it ws that bad before I left the house I wouldnt have gone out.,..but I was at work when this came and decided to give it a shot.

I was surprised at how well the bike did in the snow.

shadango
01-01-2009, 09:37 AM
No lines wires, cables or hoses on the bars because they are supposed to be run inside the bars

Wonder how much of a hassle it will be to do cable and hose maintanance on something like that?

Superkam
01-01-2009, 10:39 AM
Wonder how much of a hassle it will be to do cable and hose maintanance on something like that?

This will be interesting.

EnsignCrusher
01-01-2009, 11:12 AM
Fury:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_dealer-thumb-415x253.jpg (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/images/Honda_Fury_dealer.jpg)

Not the Fury. 2003 1800 prototype:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/assets_c/2008/12/HondaSpy3qs-thumb-415x287.jpg (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/images/HondaSpy3qs.jpg)



The 'HAIL for Leather' website needs to stick to Leather!

(And SOLO-MOTO needs to apologize for shabby reporting!)

I think you're missing the point. Note the underseat radiator. No one thought this was the Fury, but this was a test bed for technology used on the Fury.

Deadstroke
01-01-2009, 12:04 PM
I know the bike the fury was based off of in theory. A few years back there was a bike that was built and honda r&d department went over it with a fine tooth comb they loved it. Rad was under the seat, raked out front, custom side covers for the tank stretch ect. The builder was working for honda at the time and this bike did some traveling for a bit. I am anxious to see and compare the 2.

Balrog
01-01-2009, 12:43 PM
Wow, after the long diatribe I posted, then deleted. I did a little surfing and found this..

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week50/OG/html/1337-2/USD0582319-20081209.html

Scotrod1965
01-01-2009, 01:15 PM
I think you're missing the point. Note the underseat radiator. No one thought this was the Fury, but this was a test bed for technology used on the Fury.

At one time, many people were lead to believe that this was, in fact, the Fury/Fury test mule.

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/assets_c/2008/12/HondaSpy3qs-thumb-415x287.jpg (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/images/HondaSpy3qs.jpg)

Solo-Moto had some of the exact same patent sketches as Hail on their site, professing them to be the Fury as well.

No where on either of the 2 sites do I see a disclaimer that indicates the pics and sketches are actually of a 2003 VTX 1800 prototype,,,, Nope, "This is the new Fury"

As far as the Technology, lets take a look:

Belt drive on the Fury? Nope.

'Monoshock' type rear swingarm? Rumored to be so on the Fury. Whether it is the dual shock system located below the tranny as shown on the 1800 prototype sketches or a true monoshock, located under the seat, or neither, time will tell.

(Side note: Wouldn't it be ironic if Honda went to a design similar to the HD softail, when HD has, for 2009, 'introduced', on some of their baggers, (2) exterior swing arm mounted 'shocks'?) :dontknow:

Radiator under the seat?

The under the frame snorkel for the rear rad is not shown on the most recent patent pics, but is clearly shown in the "Honda Fury Patent" pics on Hail
The ductwork, placed on either side of the backbone as well as under the backbone, for the rad cooling, clearly shown in the "Honda Fury Patent" pics on Hail, appears to be missing on the actual Fury Pics we have..

Again, one person who claims to have seen Dealer Rep pics of the Fury indicates the Rad is still up front, recessed in the frame:

I saw pics of the Fury at my local Honda dealership last week.
Happen to be in there when he came in. He showed them to everyone in there at that time. I won't go into specs because Hal has correctly listed them in above posts.
I do know it is not hybid, it is shaft drive, radiator is recessed in frame in front, abs option, Colors: Black, Blue, Red, Silver, Matte Black w/black wheels, single shock under seat. And a list of Honda accessories to be bought through dealership.
Dealers can not order until January.
Speculating cost to be somewhere from 12 to 14 thousand. But that was just speculation. could be less.
It is suppose to be debuted at the New York bike show and it will be at the Indianapolis Dealer show in Febuary.
The Rep was very protective of his photos. Each one had a number in it that represented that rep,, said if pics got out before the debut he could lose his job.

I sure wish websites would correctly label their sketches and photographs as 'Testbeds', and delete the 'New Fury' titles.

Scotrod1965
01-01-2009, 01:17 PM
Wow, after the long diatribe I posted, then deleted. I did a little surfing and found this..

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week50/OG/html/1337-2/USD0582319-20081209.html

Well, son of a gun, shaft drive, radiator up front, recessed in the frame,,, Monoshock?

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week50/OG/html/1337-2/USD0582319-20081209-D00000.gif

Balrog
01-01-2009, 01:51 PM
I was thinking these drawings were fakes.. I was wrong. Here is another view



http://oregonvtx.googlepages.com/us0d0582319-006.jpg

http://oregonvtx.googlepages.com/us0d0582319-005.jpg

Scotrod1965
01-01-2009, 02:12 PM
Jeff, I somehow got a copy of your 'deleted diatribe' in my e-mail!

You made some very interesting comments, and I can see your point(s), especially about the 'stabilizer bar' (panhard?) on the final...

Hmmm, I have no explanation, but wonder if the 'bar' system is just another way of producing a 'strong, yet light,' set up???

Do monoshock dirt bikes (chain drive, disc brakes) have this 'bar'?

Balrog
01-01-2009, 02:50 PM
Jeff, I somehow got a copy of your 'deleted diatribe' in my e-mail!

You made some very interesting comments, and I can see your point(s), especially about the 'stabilizer bar' (panhard?) on the final...

Hmmm, I have no explanation, but wonder if the 'bar' system is just another way of producing a 'strong, yet light,' set up???

Do monoshock dirt bikes (chain drive, disc brakes) have this 'bar'?

That's funny you got a copy of my rant.. It took me a while to write it. I should have done some googling first.

It appears that the bar is dependent on whether, or not you have rear disc brakes or drum brakes. I am not sure about current dirt bikes. I am sure that they used to have that arm when they had drum brakes.

The picture below is the parts diagram for a shadow ACE. (I had one). It had a chain and drum brakes. For those people who didn't read my diatribe. I was confused on why the Fury, with shaft drive and rear disc brakes, would have a stabilizer bar, or Arm (as depicted below -- item #7).


http://images.powersportsnetwork.com/fiche/images/Honda/2001/Motorcycles/3085_SWINGARM.gif




Ok, here is a Shaft drive Aero (with drum brakes) ... It has that same Arm.. So, I guess it doesn't matter what type of drive you have. It is there when you have a drum type brakes.




http://images.powersportsnetwork.com/fiche/images/Honda/2005/Motorcycles/3077_SWINGARM.gif

Here is the parts explosion for my Valk. It is a shaft drive with a rear disc brake. No Arm. Just like our VTXs. (Ok.. not exactly like the VTX. But, you get the idea.)
http://images.powersportsnetwork.com/fiche/images/Honda/1997/Motorcycles/2500_SWINGARM.gif

I thought it was very odd that the drawings of the Fury showed that Arm. The Fury is supposed to be a shaft drive with a rear disc. It still doesn't make sense to me. I guess we will find out in a couple of weeks.

thorne310
01-01-2009, 04:47 PM
My wife just saw the picture and said "cool"- maybe I'll get the "one" that comes to ND :)

pmn1
01-02-2009, 12:48 AM
That has a lot of potential, good platform to make some mods on

Price will be the determining factor for a lot of folks

As a production bike, it has to have the crappy signals and pipes.....wish it had a wider rear tire

jblack5
01-02-2009, 01:46 AM
Here's another colorized Fury based on the patent picts. Had Hal's yellow 1800F in mind for the color scheme. Not sure what I had in mind for the background though ;)

1652

XRIDERNW
01-03-2009, 12:24 AM
ya know it kinda looks like the victory kingpin, i use to own one there really nice bikes..:D to bad i had to sell her it was a sad day :(:( but i love my X:thumbup::thumbup:

ghost rider
01-03-2009, 07:33 AM
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/images/HondaSpy3qs.jpg

Chicago-Spike
01-03-2009, 09:33 AM
Fury
Sorry ghost, that is NOT the Fury. That is an old pic of a VTX1800 that never went to production. The Fury does not have belt drive, does not have the rad under the seat, does not have that huge tank, does not have that frame and does not have that swingarm or engine.

LikeaBat
01-03-2009, 01:32 PM
As far as a wider rear tire goes - perhaps Honda "planned ahead" for the customizers by leaving plenty of room in the swing arm and under the fender to allow for a 240.

Yamaha did this with the Raider and I think it is a good idea. It would probably be difficult to make a bike truly handle well (by factory standards) with a 240 - but they can leave room to make it easy for those that wish to add a 240 later (and perhaps sacrifice some handling).

It would be a shame if they didn't think ahead in this regard and thus require guys to have to do major swingarm/fender mods to get a 240 on there.

BUSHHAWG
01-04-2009, 04:47 AM
Like I said before, The Honda Furry will be lame at best. 200 rear tire, 1300 engine.....:roll: It does give everyone something to talk about.

RETRORAY
01-04-2009, 05:24 AM
Needs a belt final drive for starters. Shaft drive on that style bike looks like azz.

buttnekkid
01-05-2009, 02:35 PM
Interesting but I think I would still prefer my "X"

HDKLR
01-06-2009, 09:04 PM
i thought you know everything, you have seen everything, but no you don't know nothing more than i know, i know only what i see on web. Don't take it personaly i am just too exciting to see it "fury' hahahaaa i'l hold on 1300r.

http://www.spamscreamer.com/images/AssClownAward.jpg

Hardway
01-06-2009, 11:43 PM
i would by this bike instead the raider by yamaha..its fury's only compitition...and its a no-brainer....yammi wins..
very disappointing....sorry hal and chicago spike..im going to drink now its almost noon time...:(http://www.starmotorcycles.com/assets/content/images/600/09ST_Raider_S_Rav_S1_7757fdc3.jpg

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/assets_c/2008/12/Honda_Fury_Chopper_2-thumb-415x278.jpg
Higher neck on the Fury. The wheels will probably be fancier. Pipes will probably be a little different. Honda didn't show how it will look exactly in the rendering. Radiator in front of rear wheel? Shocks underneath to look like hardtail. Finished bike should look pretty good.

Chicago-Spike
01-06-2009, 11:46 PM
Nope, rad was moved back up front again although hidden slightly between the downtubes

HDKLR
01-07-2009, 01:08 AM
Remember that scene in the movie, Gung Ho, where the Japanese engineers are looking at that model of the Chevy Camaro and scratching their heads and as they're poking and prodding at it, the wheel falls off? I picture Honda's guys looking at a Harley or Victory - something with no radiator - and having that same reaction!

:D :D :D

http://www.imcdb.org/thumbnail.php?pic=085-402.jpg

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
01-07-2009, 05:05 AM
Nope, rad was moved back up front again although hidden slightly between the downtubes

My thought is that the radiator is under the seat and they put a small grille on the front to hide the stuff on the front of the engine. Just my guess from looking at the patent drawings.

Balrog
01-07-2009, 09:43 AM
My thought is that the radiator is under the seat and they put a small grille on the front to hide the stuff on the front of the engine. Just my guess from looking at the patent drawings.

Hal,
I suppose you are talking about the patent drawing of a motorcycle rear end with the radiator? I sincerely doubt that setup will be used for the Fury. The rear end in the diagram below is either for a belt or chain drive. Not a shaft drive system. Isn't the Fury supposed to be a shaft drive?

http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=571&pictureid=3263

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
01-07-2009, 10:10 AM
I will stick with my guess for now. Radiator in the back and a small grille on the front of the engine.

http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=571&pictureid=3260

zubadenzie
01-08-2009, 12:41 AM
Are those pushrod tubes I see?

Chicago-Spike
01-08-2009, 10:11 AM
Are those pushrod tubes I see?
On the Yammy Raider, yes;
http://www.starmotorcycles.com/assets/content/images/600/09ST_Raider_S_Rav_S1_7757fdc3.jpg

dbgorange
01-08-2009, 01:07 PM
Yep, The Raider has a 113 cu overhead 4 valve motor , almost the same motor as the Roadstar at 102 cu, slightly smaller bore but the same motor for all intents and purposes.

Fordcrazy68
01-08-2009, 02:47 PM
:tools: Are there actuall delivery dates to the dealers as of yet ??????????????????:tools:

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
01-08-2009, 02:54 PM
:tools: Are there actuall delivery dates to the dealers as of yet ??????????????????:tools:

Rumor has it that once they are introduced on January 16 that Honda will make them available in March. Nothing official yet.

Fordcrazy68
01-08-2009, 03:01 PM
should be interesting at least .

Hea I just orderd a Kury. part from you guys just a minute ago . Great service and a awesome price .

Thanks Karl :tools:

Jimbo
01-08-2009, 03:32 PM
Take another look at the sketch boys, unless I'm cracking, I don't see any "soft tail" I see a rather conventional swingarm. About the same as on my 1800C. No?

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
01-08-2009, 03:45 PM
Take another look at the sketch boys, unless I'm cracking, I don't see any "soft tail" I see a rather conventional swingarm. About the same as on my 1800C. No?

Then where are the shocks?

Oldude1
01-08-2009, 04:09 PM
Hal, looking at the drawing Balrog posted showing the rear suspension, item 48 looks like two horizontally mounted shock absorbers.

Jimbo
01-08-2009, 04:14 PM
Well, I don't know. But, it does not appear to be set up like the "soft-tails" we are familiar with. Meaning there is no trailing rear frame section giving it the look of a ridgid frame, like a Fat Boy, for instance. But hey, don't get me wrong, now that I've seen these "patent sketches" I am somewhat turned on. I only live about 15 miles from the Javitz center as the crow flies, and I go to the show every year. So, I will be stoked to see it, at long last.

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
01-08-2009, 05:40 PM
Hal, looking at the drawing Balrog posted showing the rear suspension, item 48 looks like two horizontally mounted shock absorbers.


I was responding to the post above mine. Just asking where they thought they were.

My money is on a softtail setup.

Hal @ Honda Direct Line
01-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Radiator location ?

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/galleries/images/Honda_Fury_patent.jpg

Scotrod1965
01-08-2009, 09:55 PM
Radiator location ?



Well, that 'thing' up front, between the downtubes,,,it's AWFUL big to be just a trim piece,,,, and if it's just a trim piece 'to cover the motor', why cover the cylinder fins????

My vote: RAD up front.

sunnbobb
01-09-2009, 05:34 AM
Only a week to go before the revealing of the revolutionary V-twin engine design.. uh, oh sorry.