The beginnings of the Overnight Foliage Ride

[CaptDanbo]

Just the beginning efforts of the foliage ride. I'm hoping to make it an overnight with a stop in Vermont somewhere for the "overnight". Steve had mentioned making our way to Burlington and lake Champlain. That might be a good stop. I made up just a preliminary route map and I'm sure it will be adjusted. It's pretty ambitious. I figured meeting the northern group in Conway and starting the road trip through the Kancamangas. Anyways, it's just a start. I'm looking at either the weekend of Oct 3-4 or the weekend of Oct 17-18. Let me know your thoughts and we can get a poll up later.

1st route draft! (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=&msa=0&ll=43.810747,-72.174683&spn=2.394263,4.526367&z=8&msid=101677976328603235452.0004723a3c406ff9bf979)

[badone]

Dan , I just traveled 114 last month from above Warner to the North of Lake Sunapee the road is real bad. After New London it gets better. Dan did you do any room costs in the area?

[CaptDanbo]

Dan , I just traveled 114 last month from above Warner to the North of Lake Sunapee the road is real bad. After New London it gets better. Dan did you do any room costs in the area?
Thanks for the info Jim. I wasn't planning on that part of 114 anyways. I was taking 103 to 114 in Bradford just north of Lake Massesecum. This was a first draft of the route. It'll get tweaked a bit I'm sure. I was on part of 114 through Henniker and Weare with no problems last month except for a few "bumps".
I haven't checked out rooms yet, since I haven't come up with a definite pit stop. Steve wanted to stop in the Burlington/ lake Champlain area and I thought that might be a good rest spot. Waiting for thoughts from more of the group. (A work in progress since it is a fairly good ride)

[Plumcrazy]

Dan,
Linda and I and another couple did a Vermont/Upper State NY ride late in July. We left on a Friday and took 89 to Burlington for time reasons. Stayed at a Holiday Inn about 10 minutes from the ferry. Left Saturday am on the ferry to Port Kent. We travelled some of the nicest roads down to Lake Placid. Had lunch there and ended up in Lake George for the night.
Sunday am we left and hit Bennington VT (Subaru capital of the world)
and cut across lower VT and ended up on 101 (I think).
I can dig up the route #'s we took if you're interested.
Dave

[tom vt]

Just a sugestion Dan,
If you stay in Burlington area when you leave if you take rt 7 to Middlebury then onto rt 30 to manchester Vt, RT 30 is a 9-9.2 out of ten for riding and it is a 10.5 for senic it goes from moutain views to hills to farm land and everything in between it is on my must ride foliage rides this year good mix of hard and soft woods I personaly think it is as good or better than rt 100 when i rode it last month it was also less traveled.

Tom

[CaptDanbo]

Just a sugestion Dan,
If you stay in Burlington area when you leave if you take rt 7 to Middlebury then onto rt 30 to manchester Vt, RT 30 is a 9-9.2 out of ten for riding and it is a 10.5 for senic it goes from moutain views to hills to farm land and everything in between it is on my must ride foliage rides this year good mix of hard and soft woods I personaly think it is as good or better than rt 100 when i rode it last month it was also less traveled.

Tom
Thanks Tom......I knew people would offer suggestions. A lot of these roads I've never travelled.

[CaptDanbo]

Dan,
Linda and I and another couple did a Vermont/Upper State NY ride late in July. We left on a Friday and took 89 to Burlington for time reasons. Stayed at a Holiday Inn about 10 minutes from the ferry. Left Saturday am on the ferry to Port Kent. We travelled some of the nicest roads down to Lake Placid. Had lunch there and ended up in Lake George for the night.
Sunday am we left and hit Bennington VT (Subaru capital of the world)
and cut across lower VT and ended up on 101 (I think).
I can dig up the route #'s we took if you're interested.
Dave
Not sure what the group will be up for Dave, but if you have the route by all means I'll look it over. There may only be a few of us that will do a lengthy ride like this anyways. Glad you enjoyed your trip in July.

[Doug H]

This sounds fun. My wife an I took the bike for part of my vacation and rode the coast of Maine for a few days. She is eager for another M/C vacation / trip. I am not sure if she would like a large group ride or highways though.

Thanks for keeping us informed.

Doug

[CaptDanbo]

This sounds fun. My wife an I took the bike for part of my vacation and rode the coast of Maine for a few days. She is eager for another M/C vacation / trip. I am not sure if she would like a large group ride or highways though.

Thanks for keeping us informed.

Doug
Well Doug, I don't think it'll be a large group. Not too many people will be up for an overnighter. Of course people are welcome to join us along the route, but we'll see how it goes. And as far as highways go......NONE. Elvie prefers the smaller roads as well. Check the link of the route at the beginning of this thread and you'll see. Actually, we would like to make plenty of stops too for foliage pics and such.

[Ilona]

Walt & I are heading out next Saturday for the long weekend to Plattsburg NY to catch up with friends camping up there and to drive over and see my Dad in Massena NY, so will pick up whatever stuff I can find for hotels, sights to see etc..not sure what route wer'e taking as yet, thats Walts job..I just follow!! So, everyone talk to the sun gods for us as I won't go if it's raining all weekend, did way to many of them when I was a younger person..I think a fall trip would be great as a group, and meeting the northern group up their way if their coming only fair as they have come south so many times for us..even if we met in Littleton and went over from there it would be closer for them..Good job Steve and Dan getting this started early..see you all soon.

[CaptDanbo]

Walt & I are heading out next Saturday for the long weekend to Plattsburg NY to catch up with friends camping up there and to drive over and see my Dad in Massena NY, so will pick up whatever stuff I can find for hotels, sights to see etc..not sure what route wer'e taking as yet, thats Walts job..I just follow!! So, everyone talk to the sun gods for us as I won't go if it's raining all weekend, did way to many of them when I was a younger person..I think a fall trip would be great as a group, and meeting the northern group up their way if their coming only fair as they have come south so many times for us..even if we met in Littleton and went over from there it would be closer for them..Good job Steve and Dan getting this started early..see you all soon.
Well, have a good trip next weekend. Elvie and I will be in NYC next weekend for a Filipina party they are having there. Her sisters are going from Virginia as well, so Elvie gets to spend some time with her sisters. After that it will be the Toys for Tots run for us. I'm suppose to work, but I always love the Tots run and try not to miss it. See you soon!

[SPGrenier]

I like the idea of an overnight ride. I'll have to play it by ear to see if I/we will be able to do it and whether or not it'll be solo or 2 up. School and sports activities will be in full force.

I have to agree with Tom on Rte 7 and rte 30. Depending on how and when we enter and exit VT, we should certainly consider those roads to or from our trip.

Perhaps we need to pick a date. That way we can get an idea of who might be able to make the ride and then choose a route that is inclusive of all intended participants.

[CaptDanbo]

Well, looking at past pics of foliage it seems that most that I have were around the 6th of October. So let's shoot for the 3rd and 4th of October.
Sound good? Chime in people with your thoughts.

[moo315]

Well, looking at past pics of foliage it seems that most that I have were around the 6th of October. So let's shoot for the 3rd and 4th of October.
Sound good? Chime in people with your thoughts.

Cant make the 17-18th, so 3rd and 4th works for Beth and I at the moment and hopefully we will be able to do the overnight too.

[btalon]

If we stayed closer to NH, we could go further north and actually ride through the north country, unless it's really cold out I don't have an overwhelming desire to head into vermont and have to wear a lid the whole time.

[CaptDanbo]

If we stayed closer to NH, we could go further north and actually ride through the north country, unless it's really cold out I don't have an overwhelming desire to head into vermont and have to wear a lid the whole time.
I know Ilona and Walt wanted to do Vermont for the foliage last year, but then she had the accident. I also know that Ken wanted to travel a good part of Route 100 in Vermont as well. Elvie, wants something different, so Vermont works for her. I'm sure we could probably get something else going which could be just NH. I just wanted to start the overnight ride planning as early as possible. It's all still up in the air for definite plans till more people chime in with there thoughts. I've been focused on getting the gallery back up. Seems to be not letting people upload pics to their personal albums. Lots of large files may be slowing the server down. I just tried a hack to raise the allowable memory to a higher number. Gonna see if that works.

[Ilona]

3rd & 4th are OK for Walt & I also..any weekend thats not raining is good for that matter, I can set work shedule for weekends as soon as we have a date as it's not mandatory overtime..got out today and missed the dreaded rain till after we got home..:grin:

[btalon]

I did a foliage ride to rangely maine a few years ago and it was spectacular, I believe it's 17 that goes to rumford and the views over the lakes can't be beat.

I'm out on the overnight ride, no desire for vermont and a mandatory helmet.

[SPGrenier]

I put in to take the 3rd and 4th off from work to do this ride. I just found out last night that they gave me the 4th but not Saturday the 3rd. I would have rather had it the other way around.

So, as it stands I can't get Saturday off. I still have a couple of weeks to resubmit. They only allow a finite number of employees to be off on any given day. I believe that this is also the Deerfield Fair weekend. Our Social and Rec committee sold discount tickets, so there was probably a high interest.

I can only hope that someone else retracts their request for the 3rd day off which would make room for my approval.

[CaptDanbo]

I put in to take the 3rd and 4th off from work to do this ride. I just found out last night that they gave me the 4th but not Saturday the 3rd. I would have rather had it the other way around.

So, as it stands I can't get Saturday off. I still have a couple of weeks to resubmit. They only allow a finite number of employees to be off on any given day. I believe that this is also the Deerfield Fair weekend. Our Social and Rec committee sold discount tickets, so there was probably a high interest.

I can only hope that someone else retracts their request for the 3rd day off which would make room for my approval.
I would actually hate to see you miss this one. You could as you said hope for a retraction for that Saturday or......catch a cold or flu. ;)

[SPGrenier]

I would actually hate to see you miss this one. You could as you said hope for a retraction for that Saturday or......catch a cold or flu. ;)

We've had too many people get disciplined for calling in sick after a rejected request for a day off. Going to hope for some common sense. I ask for very little time off. Figures that the one time I need it and it's "no"

[moo315]

So, as it stands I can't get Saturday off. I still have a couple of weeks to resubmit. They only allow a finite number of employees to be off on any given day. I believe that this is also the Deerfield Fair weekend. Our Social and Rec committee sold discount tickets, so there was probably a high interest.
.

UH OH I promised the kids I would take them to the deerfield fair...:roll:

[SPGrenier]

UH OH I promised the kids I would take them to the deerfield fair...:roll:


For whatever it's worth, the fair runs the 1st through the 4th

[shaw351c]

Oh Dear....................

Sorry, just had to, it was to easy.............:oops:

[CaptDanbo]

Time to bump this thread up :bump::bump:
I need to know who is interested in pursuing the overnight foliage ride to the north country and down through Vermont's route 100 and Quechee Gorge. People can do one day partial rides if they like, but I need to have some definite responses for the overnight, so I can get some ideas on how many roomes we may need and where we will stay. If there is not enough interest, I may shorten the trip a bit, but I still would like to make it an overnight ride. What better way to close out the season. (although I'm sure people will still plan some shorter rides till it starts snowing).
Let me know what you think. Here is the original mapped out trip.
Foliage ride map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=&msa=0&msid=101677976328603235452.0004723a3c406ff9bf979&ll=43.810747,-72.174683&spn=2.418046,4.740601&z=8)

[SPGrenier]

I checked again yesterday and I can't get that 3rd off. Don't count me in for the room numbers at this point.

I'm off on Sunday. That being said, depending on what time I get out of work, I may be able to run up in the wee hours to join you for a run home.

[CaptDanbo]

I checked again yesterday and I can't get that 3rd off. Don't count me in for the room numbers at this point.

I'm off on Sunday. That being said, depending on what time I get out of work, I may be able to run up in the wee hours to join you for a run home.
That works Steve. I'm definitely trying to get an idea of who is going to make it so I can get plans together. Hope you can get in on part of it anyways!

[Ilona]

Walt & I are in as long as the weather is dry..cold I do..wet I don't..overnight is fine also, when you make final decision to where your going to stop for the night let us know..happy planning!!

[shaw351c]

I cannot do the overnight trip, but can ride up to a meet point on sunday for the ride home. 8) Joe 8)

[Doug H]

Turns out my wife is away that weekend.

Unable to make it, but if something comes up, please publish hotel / motel info and I can make my own arrangements last minute.

Thanks.

[Doc Rick]

We're talking about the 3rd and 4th, right, October?

[CaptDanbo]

We're talking about the 3rd and 4th, right, October?
I thought about December but figured October was better!!
Yea Doc.....3rd and 4th of October......Bring the wife!! :thumbup:

[CaptDanbo]

Time for another bump. :bump::bump:

Here's what's up!
I found a nice bed and breakfast in Alburg Vermont, just a couple of miles south of the Canadian border, on the lake and on an island. It's called the Ransom Bay Inn. Looks pretty nice. We would be traveling another 25 miles up from our original route, but we could then take Route 2 down through the lake area on Sunday. The rates seem reasonable for a bed and breakfast. The rates were $105 double occupancy with $15 additional per person. That would be $135 for the room with 2 queen size beds sleeping 4 people. Breakdown is $67.50 per couple, $33.75 per person including breakfast.
As far as who's in for the trip. Looks like the overnight would be myself and Elvie, and Walt and Ilona. No others have checked in for the overnight.
Joe Shaw and Steve said they would meet us somewhere for the ride back on Sunday. We can figure a meeting place later. Doug H wants to know where we will stay in case he can make last minute plans and I think Ken said something about riding up for the Saturday part of the ride. That's it. No other people have checked in. I didn't get a definite from Mike and Beth so as soon as Walt and Ilona give me the OK, I'll book the overnight. In the mean time I'll continue checking out rooms. I'm trying to be frugal, but Would love to wake up to a view. This Inn seemed to be reasonable and on the lake. Let me know your thoughts.

Originally we were going to take 89 down to Burlington from 104A. Now we could take either 89 or route 7 to Swanton and then cross over to Alburg. Sunday we could take Route 2 back down to Route 7 and take that into Burlington for a possible meeting spot. That would put us back on our original course. Thoughts Please. It is after all my first planned bike ride! I know it's a biggie and I hope I'm not biting off more than I can chew!

[CaptDanbo]

Now the fun part starts......finding one of these places that isn't booked up. Hopefully we won't have to "settle" for something. I have several calls that yielded failures and I'm trying some more. I'll keep you posted.

[CaptDanbo]

Well, I'm having no luck at all. Everything I've checked into has been booked for weeks. I checked B&B's, hotels, motels and struck out on all counts. I'll keep trying but it isn't looking good.

[CaptDanbo]

Well, Steve caught my posts and managed to find a place that was available in St Albans. Reservations are made and we're good to go. Since the only people that actually were a 'go" for the overnight were Ilona, Walt, Elvie and I, the room we got was a room with 2 double beds at a La Quinta hotel. I am at work right now and will post details tomorrow. We will be heading a little further north, but that shouldn't be too bad. I'll adjust the route accordingly tomorrow as well. I'm glad we managed to get a place, the other alternative was to shorten the trip and possibly make it single day run. We are back to the original plan for the overnight. I'll keep you posted.

[Doc Rick]

If someone wants to split a room cost, I'll be in. I'm going alone, no wife, but what else is new. Room cost is $150/ plus tax for 2 full beds and a continental breakfast. I can't swing the total cost and rooms are booking fast for foliage, so if no ones interested, I can't go either, Dan.

[CaptDanbo]

If someone wants to split a room cost, I'll be in. I'm going alone, no wife, but what else is new. Room cost is $150/ plus tax for 2 full beds and a continental breakfast. I can't swing the total cost and rooms are booking fast for foliage, so if no ones interested, I can't go either, Dan.
Doc.....have to take Elvie back to Mass eye and ear tomorrow, but I'll see if they'll throw in a rollaway bed for an additional charge and we can squeeze into the 1 room. I don't think anyone else was planning the overnight, but if they do, the room will need to be booked quickly. They are definitely going fast. It would be great if Beth and Mike were going, then it wouldn't be an issue.

[Ilona]

It's 2am and I just booked another room at the LaQuinta in St. Albans so Doc, you can room with Dan and we'll still have another bed if needed for anyone else..this way if something happens and Walt & I can't come I won't feel bad canceling if we had to..I got the AAA rate and booked right from their site, it was a little cheaper. Hope the weathers with us for this..Walt & I have done the ride throught the islands and it's real nice, one very small steel deck bridge, but your over it before you know it...have taken the ferries across to NY and thats fun also..off to bed, see everyone soon..;)

[SPGrenier]

I had management check again today to see if they could give me the 3rd off. Once again they said no. Very frustrating to work so hard for these guys and get rejected when I ask for something this simple.

[moo315]

Still not sure if we can make it...Beth has some family things that she needs to do and has not given me an answer either way yet :roll: I would say as of now we wont be taking the ride.

[CaptDanbo]

Still not sure if we can make it...Beth has some family things that she needs to do and has not given me an answer either way yet :roll: I would say as of now we wont be taking the ride.
OK Mike......you'll probably be out of luck if you wait too long for a decision. Rally tough getting rooms in peak season. After I get back from Massachusetts, I'll call the hotel and see if we can get a rollaway bed for Doc.

[CaptDanbo]

It's 2am and I just booked another room at the LaQuinta in St. Albans so Doc, you can room with Dan and we'll still have another bed if needed for anyone else..this way if something happens and Walt & I can't come I won't feel bad canceling if we had to..I got the AAA rate and booked right from their site, it was a little cheaper. Hope the weathers with us for this..Walt & I have done the ride throught the islands and it's real nice, one very small steel deck bridge, but your over it before you know it...have taken the ferries across to NY and thats fun also..off to bed, see everyone soon..;)
Ilona,
Just saw your post about another room at La Quinta. That will work and hopefully someone else will want to come along to help save you some of the cost. Elvie & I for one will be traveling one way or another. If it's pouring out, we may just take the truck and go for a drive, but I'm betting on good weather. Keep your fingers crossed!

[CaptDanbo]

If someone wants to split a room cost, I'll be in. I'm going alone, no wife, but what else is new. Room cost is $150/ plus tax for 2 full beds and a continental breakfast. I can't swing the total cost and rooms are booking fast for foliage, so if no ones interested, I can't go either, Dan.
Thanks to Ilona and Walt it looks like you're in Doc. They went and took another room, so let me know if you're definitely going.

[badone]

Is there anyone riding up with you , I can`t do the overnight but would like to ride up into VT if anyone else is going?

[CaptDanbo]

Is there anyone riding up with you , I can`t do the overnight but would like to ride up into VT if anyone else is going?

Jim.....I believe Ken was talking about riding up to Vermont on Saturday. Steve and Joe were talking about meeting us in Vermont somewhere (TBD) for the ride back down route 100 and the Quechee Gorge. Perhaps they will chime in.

[Ilona]

Looking forward to the trip Dan, the sun gods will just have to play nice, I don't mind the cold, but hate cold & wet..it's a real pretty area up there and even if you drive up in the truck you'll like it..my dad lives up that way so have made the trip twice with the bikes and had a great ride both times..hope some of the gang makes the trip, winter will be on us soon and the scoots will be bedded down for the winter.:cry: tryed to talk Walt into taking them to North Carolina so we could ride at Christmas, but looks like their going to Naults for the winter this year..

[shaw351c]

Is there anyone riding up with you , I can`t do the overnight but would like to ride up into VT if anyone else is going?

Jim.....I believe Ken was talking about riding up to Vermont on Saturday. Steve and Joe were talking about meeting us in Vermont somewhere (TBD) for the ride back down route 100 and the Quechee Gorge. Perhaps they will chime in.

Im in for a Sunday meet up and ride home with the overnighters. Just waiting till the final plans are made. ;)Joe;)

[SPGrenier]

I'm still hoping to catch all or part of this.

Dan, what time do you guys figure you's be out fro breakfats and then on the road?

I'm likely working on Saturday night and getting out around 3:30am. Between that and little to no sleep for an early start to meet up with you, it could be rough.

It's a good 3 1/2 hour ride via I-89 to St Albans. I'd have to leave my place at 6:00am to get there for 9:30.

[shaw351c]

Steve, If you can make this Sunday trip we do not have to leave so early. I have no plans for the day, and would rather you get some Zzzzzz than be tired on the road. Depending where we meet up with the rest of the group, im in no hurry. ;) Joe ;)

I'm still hoping to catch all or part of this.

Dan, what time do you guys figure you's be out fro breakfats and then on the road?

I'm likely working on Saturday night and getting out around 3:30am. Between that and little to no sleep for an early start to meet up with you, it could be rough.

It's a good 3 1/2 hour ride via I-89 to St Albans. I'd have to leave my place at 6:00am to get there for 9:30.

[Doc Rick]

Weather permitting, I'm in.

[CaptDanbo]

Here is the article I put in on the NH VTX Riders web site as I wrote it.
It has the hotel location as well as both maps for the trip.....one for each day of the ride. As far as time we will leave the hotel on Sunday, I believe breakfast is around 8:00am and check out time is noon, but considering the 6 or better hours of riding the day 2 part of the ride, I wouldn't want to leave any later than 11:00am on Sunday. 10:00am would be better, but I know it's a long ride up to St. Alban straight up 89. The other alternative is to maybe meet in the Burlington area after we do the island loop. It's up to the group.

Steve, what reasonable time would you like to meet?
Here is the article I posted on the web page with hotel location and route maps:


Update to the Fall Foliage Ride
Finalized plans for the Fall Foliage Ride are in place. We have acquired 2 rooms at the La Quinta Inn and Suites in St Albans, Vermont. This will be the stopover for the overnight between Day 1 and Day 2 of the ride. It's a very ambitious ride with about 240 miles going north on day 1 and 260 miles on the southern leg of day 2.
With the addition of a second room, we have space for 1 more couple if anyone is interested. Of course people can meet us along the route for portions of the ride. Some people are already doing only the ride north with us. and some are going to meet us in Vermont for the ride south. Meeting spots besides the Inn could possibly be in White River Junction somewhere for people who will only be doing a shortened version of the ride. I seperated the route maps by day and included the La Quinta web site and they are below:


Day 1 of the ride (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004744a397fbb45bedb4&ll=43.878098,-72.103271&spn=2.874619,5.267944&z=8)



Day 2 of the ride (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004744a7bcba42bcaf90&ll=43.878098,-72.103271&spn=2.874619,5.267944&z=8)
La Quinta Inn & Suites

Feel free to join us for any part of the ride. Stay tuned for further updates or changes.

[SPGrenier]

Here is the article I put in on the NH VTX Riders web site as I wrote it.
It has the hotel location as well as both maps for the trip.....one for each day of the ride. As far as time we will leave the hotel on Sunday, I believe breakfast is around 8:00am and check out time is noon, but considering the 6 or better hours of riding the day 2 part of the ride, I wouldn't want to leave any later than 11:00am on Sunday. 10:00am would be better, but I know it's a long ride up to St. Alban straight up 89. The other alternative is to maybe meet in the Burlington area after we do the island loop. It's up to the group.

Steve, what reasonable time would you like to meet?
Here is the article I posted on the web page with hotel location and route maps:


Update to the Fall Foliage Ride
Finalized plans for the Fall Foliage Ride are in place. We have acquired 2 rooms at the La Quinta Inn and Suites in St Albans, Vermont. This will be the stopover for the overnight between Day 1 and Day 2 of the ride. It's a very ambitious ride with about 240 miles going north on day 1 and 260 miles on the southern leg of day 2.
With the addition of a second room, we have space for 1 more couple if anyone is interested. Of course people can meet us along the route for portions of the ride. Some people are already doing only the ride north with us. and some are going to meet us in Vermont for the ride south. Meeting spots besides the Inn could possibly be in White River Junction somewhere for people who will only be doing a shortened version of the ride. I seperated the route maps by day and included the La Quinta web site and they are below:


Day 1 of the ride (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004744a397fbb45bedb4&ll=43.878098,-72.103271&spn=2.874619,5.267944&z=8)


Day 2 of the ride (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004744a7bcba42bcaf90&ll=43.878098,-72.103271&spn=2.874619,5.267944&z=8)
La Quinta Inn & Suites
Feel free to join us for any part of the ride. Stay tuned for further updates or changes.


Well, I guess that breakfast at 8:00am is out. I'll take a look at the route and see what I can manage.

Joe and Ric: It sounds like any departure time is ok for you both.

The irony about my not getting the day off is that I could probably put in to go home early because it is a slow night. From the mail volume we have on Saturday, they don't need to keep me. However the union rules say no more than 17 can be off and they've reached that, so hence the rejection for the night off.

The union and mgt can, together, agree to allow more than 17 and I've asked the union steward to arrange it if possible. That was better than a week ago and one follow up since. Apparently they can't be bothered to help me out. You know how that goes: if you're not in the "inner circle" you're nobody. That's my hard earned dues at work!

[shaw351c]

I know the feeling Steve, after six years im still the low man on the totem pole at UPS for the maintenance department. The guys never let me forget it also, but my reply is always this... From my point of view when I look up is that all I see are A$$holes!!! :popcorn: Joe :popcorn:

P.S. Will they let you work ½ a day and go home sick and not gig you for it???

[SPGrenier]

I'm guessing that I can probably get out a couple hours early. I'll work something out.

[SPGrenier]

Just went over some of the previous posts. I guess Dioc is making the 2 day run with the overnighter.

Ok, so that leaves Joe and I at this point. Anyone else thinkiing about spending the day Sunday on the bike?

[CaptDanbo]

Just went over some of the previous posts. I guess Dioc is making the 2 day run with the overnighter.

Ok, so that leaves Joe and I at this point. Anyone else thinkiing about spending the day Sunday on the bike?
I think Jim is considering riding up to Vermont with us on Saturday. Thge last thing I knew was only you and Joe for the Sunday part of the ride. There may still be people jumping in at the last minute, so maybe just come up with a place and time that you will leave on Sunday and I'm sure you will get some responses.

[moo315]

Looks like I need to be in Berlin by noon on Sat and then head up to Beth's parents :roll: in Bloomfield VT and then if possible head to St Albans. It may be too much of a ride for Beth, not that she ever complains but...well ya know
If not that night, maybe meet up at some point on the return trip

Map of my possible trip
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=manchester+nh&daddr=S+Main+St%2FNH-28+to:bloomfield+vt+to:44.927863,-72.229614+to:Saint+Albans,+Vermont&hl=en&geocode=%3BFWQFmQIdGIDB-w%3B%3B%3BFYDAqwIdNdWk-w&mra=dpe&mrcr=1&mrsp=3&sz=9&via=1,3&sll=44.627619,-72.24884&sspn=0.916742,1.554565&ie=UTF8&ll=44.625664,-72.729492&spn=1.833514,3.109131&t=h&z=8

Dan what is your planned departure time from Manchester ?

[CaptDanbo]

Looks like I need to be in Berlin by noon on Sat and then head up to Beth's parents :roll: in Bloomfield VT and then if possible head to St Albans. It may be too much of a ride for Beth, not that she ever complains but...well ya know
If not that night, maybe meet up at some point on the return trip

Map of my possible trip
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=manchester+nh&daddr=S+Main+St%2FNH-28+to:bloomfield+vt+to:44.927863,-72.229614+to:Saint+Albans,+Vermont&hl=en&geocode=%3BFWQFmQIdGIDB-w%3B%3B%3BFYDAqwIdNdWk-w&mra=dpe&mrcr=1&mrsp=3&sz=9&via=1,3&sll=44.627619,-72.24884&sspn=0.916742,1.554565&ie=UTF8&ll=44.625664,-72.729492&spn=1.833514,3.109131&t=h&z=8

Dan what is your planned departure time from Manchester ?

Mike.....my original time for leaving DD was 9:30am, but could probably make it 9:00am. Looks like you could ride up to Conway with us, and when we hit the Kanc, you could swing up 302 (by your map).
You could also do the Kanc with us and then swing up route 3 toward Berlin. That may not get you there by noon though. Your stop in St Albans is not far from our hotel on Fairfax Rd.
We could meet there on Sunday if you think Beth can handle it. I could make some mods to my original route too, but I have to consider Elvie and the long ride too. I'll check back later, got to pick Elvie up from work.

[SPGrenier]

Ok, here's the game plan for Joe and I at this point for a Sunday run. Neither of us has any desire to spend 3 1/2 hours on I-89.

The developing game plan: From Merrimack / Nashua we are going to head towards Keene and enter VT near Brattleboro. Joe and I (and others we hope) will work our way to Rte 7 and meet up with you guys around Vergennes near the junction of rte 7 and rte 17.

Near as I can estimate, it'll take you guys about 2 1/4 hours (with a break) to do your lake loop and down rte 7 to Vergennes. I'll play around with our route.

Dan: you can probably punch in Vergennes as an additional location and drag it to the junction of 7 and 17 to give you the approx travel time.

So, what we'll need from you is a time to meet in the Vergennes / Junction of 7 and 17 area. We'll plan our start on that meeting time. It sounds to me like it'll be around 12:30ish. Let me know.

Sound like a plan?

[badone]

Steve, Joe, Sunday would be OK It doesn`t matter. I like your route, much better than 89. Did 89 on the way to Lake George very boaring. Let me know.

[SPGrenier]

Here's on possible route for Sunday. It's ambitious at around 4 hours. I haven't travelled these roads but it does take 3/4 hours off of my original thoughtThis was my original thought which was an alternative that Ken and I thought about riding when he and I did VT.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Milford+Rd%2FNH-101A&daddr=NH-10%2FNH-101%2FNH-12+to:S+116+Rd%2FVT-116&geocode=FZomjQIdlEq8-w%3BFbzzjgId9NKw-w%3BFVZcoQIdL5-k-w&hl=en&mra=mr&mrcr=1&sll=43.464881,-72.333984&sspn=2.587402,4.916382&ie=UTF8&ll=43.562481,-72.680054&spn=1.29164,2.458191&z=9

This one clocked in at 4 3/4 hours without breaks.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=merrimack+Nh&daddr=NH-10%2FNH-101%2FNH-12+to:NH-9%2FRte-9+to:43.115019,-72.80365+to:New+Haven+VT&geocode=%3BFbzzjgId9NKw-w%3BFbiYjgIdDMeu-w%3B%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=3&sz=10&via=2,3&sll=43.130055,-72.625122&sspn=0.650443,1.229095&ie=UTF8&ll=43.520672,-72.295532&spn=1.292536,2.458191&z=9

I think the first option may be the one with those drive times.

We'll wait for a firm meet time from Dan, but we are probably looking at around an 8:00am start. We used Google maps when we took some back roads to White River last Sunday to meet up with Tom. We were probably at least 30 minutes ahead of there projections.

Joe if it's just you and I, you can get off on exit 7 in Nashua and we can meet on Amherst St somewhere. Maybe the McDonalds on Amherst St and Continental Blvd.

[Doc Rick]

Ok, here's the game plan for Joe and I at this point for a Sunday run. Neither of us has any desire to spend 3 1/2 hours on I-89.

The developing game plan: From Merrimack / Nashua we are going to head towards Keene and enter VT near Brattleboro. Joe and I (and others we hope) will work our way to Rte 7 and meet up with you guys around Vergennes near the junction of rte 7 and rte 17.

Near as I can estimate, it'll take you guys about 2 1/4 hours (with a break) to do your lake loop and down rte 7 to Vergennes. I'll play around with our route.

Dan: you can probably punch in Vergennes as an additional location and drag it to the junction of 7 and 17 to give you the approx travel time.

So, what we'll need from you is a time to meet in the Vergennes / Junction of 7 and 17 area. We'll plan our start on that meeting time. It sounds to me like it'll be around 12:30ish. Let me know.

Sound like a plan?
If we leave by 10am, my map shows that it will take us just 2 hours to reach the rt7/ rt17 intersection.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=St+Albans+Rd%2FUS-7+to:US-2%2FUS+Route+2+S+to:44.122099,-73.181305&geocode=FRCIqwIdcgGl-w%3BFZLNrAIdN56k-w%3BFc7-rQIdHOyh-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=3&sz=12&via=1,2&sll=44.189097,-73.150063&sspn=0.143275,0.362206&ie=UTF8&ll=44.672559,-73.188171&spn=1.136759,2.897644&z=9

[SPGrenier]

If we leave by 10am, my map shows that it will take us just 2 hours to reach the rt7/ rt17 intersection.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=St+Albans+Rd%2FUS-7+to:US-2%2FUS+Route+2+S+to:44.122099,-73.181305&geocode=FRCIqwIdcgGl-w%3BFZLNrAIdN56k-w%3BFc7-rQIdHOyh-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=3&sz=12&via=1,2&sll=44.189097,-73.150063&sspn=0.143275,0.362206&ie=UTF8&ll=44.672559,-73.188171&spn=1.136759,2.897644&z=9

Doc, the link isn't getting me to your map.

Are you going up on Sunday or Saturday?

[SPGrenier]

Steve, Joe, Sunday would be OK It doesn`t matter. I like you route, much better than 89. Did 89 on the way to Lake George very boaring. Let me know.


Jim, would be great to have you along. Keep checking as we finalize routes and times.

Doc is working on a route as well.

[SPGrenier]

If we leave by 10am, my map shows that it will take us just 2 hours to reach the rt7/ rt17 intersection.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=St+Albans+Rd%2FUS-7+to:US-2%2FUS+Route+2+S+to:44.122099,-73.181305&geocode=FRCIqwIdcgGl-w%3BFZLNrAIdN56k-w%3BFc7-rQIdHOyh-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=3&sz=12&via=1,2&sll=44.189097,-73.150063&sspn=0.143275,0.362206&ie=UTF8&ll=44.672559,-73.188171&spn=1.136759,2.897644&z=9


Ok, I got you Doc. I added a break and it appears you are going up on Saturday. I know Dan will probably be taking many pics as well. A 12:30 ish meet probably works for both groups. I'll let you guys decide. Have to go to work. I'll check back in the morning.

[CaptDanbo]

I know from Steve's work schedule that sleep would be a good thing to have before such a long road trip. Get yourself an extra hour of sleep Steve and leave at 9:00am. We can plan on meeting you at the junction of 7 and 17 between 1:00 and 1:30pm. We could still leave the hotel around 11:00am and take our time through the islands and still have plenty of time to make it to the junction on time. That would give you at least an extra hour of sleep anyways. Sounds like the return trip plan is pretty good. Let me know and I'll make those meeting times and places a definite.

Now I can focus on Mike and Beth and try to accommodate the trip they are planning.

[moo315]

Mike.....my original time for leaving DD was 9:30am, but could probably make it 9:00am. Looks like you could ride up to Conway with us, and when we hit the Kanc, you could swing up 302 (by your map).
You could also do the Kanc with us and then swing up route 3 toward Berlin. That may not get you there by noon though. Your stop in St Albans is not far from our hotel on Fairfax Rd.
We could meet there on Sunday if you think Beth can handle it. I could make some mods to my original route too, but I have to consider Elvie and the long ride too. I'll check back later, got to pick Elvie up from work.

That might work for us, its about a 3 1/2 hour ride from Manchester to Berlin via Conway.Dont make any changes yet as im not sure we can make it still. If we do head over to St Albans on Sat Beth just wants to do it in the daylight, im sure the temp will drop up there after the sun goes down. If not maybe we can meet up in the morning like you said at the hotel or the other meeting place with Steve.

[CaptDanbo]

That might work for us, its about a 3 1/2 hour ride from Manchester to Berlin via Conway.Dont make any changes yet as im not sure we can make it still. If we do head over to St Albans on Sat Beth just wants to do it in the daylight, im sure the temp will drop up there after the sun goes down. If not maybe we can meet up in the morning like you said at the hotel or the other meeting place with Steve.
OK Mike, I'll leave the route the way it is. Do you still want to run with us to Conway at least? Leave DD at 9:00am? Or is that too late. If Ilona, Walt and Doc want to leave at 8:30am on Saturday, you would have your 3 1/2 hours to Berlin and be able to spend part of the ride up with us. No big deal for me, and I'm sure the others would love to have you along for part of the ride.
I'm definitely hoping for daylight only riding hours too. It will get cold over night.

[Ilona]

Walt & I will probably meet you in Woodstock Dan as we don't get in till midnight on Friday and will need a later than 8:30 start, so will scoot over and meet you when you come out of the Kanc, it's a day trip for us so, don't want to add the mileage if I don't have to for this trip. Walt & I will stop over on Sunday and we can figure out what time you and Doc are heading out..trip back looks good, great roads, we did some of it when we went to my dads a few weeks back..hope we can pick up Mike and Beth in our travels..

[moo315]

OK Mike, I'll leave the route the way it is. Do you still want to run with us to Conway at least? Leave DD at 9:00am? Or is that too late. If Ilona, Walt and Doc want to leave at 8:30am on Saturday, you would have your 3 1/2 hours to Berlin and be able to spend part of the ride up with us. No big deal for me, and I'm sure the others would love to have you along for part of the ride.
I'm definitely hoping for daylight only riding hours too. It will get cold over night.

We are going to Berlin for Beth's daughters field hockey game and she is on varsity so she may not start till after 1230 so the start time may be OK. I am still working on Beth so that we can do part of the ride even if it the first or last leg of the trip.

[SPGrenier]

I know from Steve's work schedule that sleep would be a good thing to have before such a long road trip. Get yourself an extra hour of sleep Steve and leave at 9:00am. We can plan on meeting you at the junction of 7 and 17 between 1:00 and 1:30pm. We could still leave the hotel around 11:00am and take our time through the islands and still have plenty of time to make it to the junction on time. That would give you at least an extra hour of sleep anyways. Sounds like the return trip plan is pretty good. Let me know and I'll make those meeting times and places a definite.

Now I can focus on Mike and Beth and try to accommodate the trip they are planning.

Dan, we can make whatever time that works on your breakfast/hotel check out time. I've already talked to them about leaving early on the 3rd to get some sleep in before the ride. Why don't we leave it at 12:30 at 7 and 17. We can probably set a time, like maybe at noon, for each group to pull over and call to check on our respective progress.

[SPGrenier]

Steve, Joe, Sunday would be OK It doesn`t matter. I like your route, much better than 89. Did 89 on the way to Lake George very boaring. Let me know.

Jim, I posted to Joe that I could meet up with him on Amherst St in Nashua somewhere, possibly the McDonalds at Amherst St and Continental Blvd., because that would be easy for him coming up the Everett Tnpk. Does a location on Amherst St work for you? 8:00am is the target at this point.

As an alternate pickup for you, as I recall, there is an Irving station up on the left where 101A and 101 meet You could go into the circle via rte 13 and run up 101A to the Irving. I'd think that if you were there for 8:15am; we'd be right around the corner to meet up with you. We have a week to figure it out.

Jim, I don't have a cell number for you. If you can PM me with it, I'll have it on hand. I'll PM you with mine in the meantime.

[CaptDanbo]

Dan, we can make whatever time that works on your breakfast/hotel check out time. I've already talked to them about leaving early on the 3rd to get some sleep in before the ride. Why don't we leave it at 12:30 at 7 and 17. We can probably set a time, like maybe at noon, for each group to pull over and call to check on our respective progress.

12:30 at the junction of 7 and 17 it is. We will pull over at 12 noon for a quick call to see where we are at in the route.....Works for me. Day 2 is finalized.......GREAT!
Day 1 still being tweeked. Ilona and Walt are popping over here on Sunday morning to get Day 1 finished up.

[rikyfre]

Getting down to the wire on finishing the step-daughter's place. If I make some good time from now 'til then, I'm in for a day ride. I'll watch this thread and keep you informed. You guys doing the overnight ride, have fun. Wish it was me.........

[CaptDanbo]

Getting down to the wire on finishing the step-daughter's place. If I make some good time from now 'til then, I'm in for a day ride. I'll watch this thread and keep you informed. You guys doing the overnight ride, have fun. Wish it was me.........
As always Rick.....great to have our regular tailgunner along. I've had to fill in the last couple of rides! :thumbup:

[CaptDanbo]

Just checking the 10 day forecasts and right now it looks like a 40% chance of showers on both Sat & Sun. It's early and I'm sure the forecast will get better. Hopefully these possible showers move in early cause Monday the 5th is suppose to be sunny all day. Now is a good time to pray to the weather gods!! ;)

[SPGrenier]

Just checking the 10 day forecasts and right now it looks like a 40% chance of showers on both Sat & Sun. It's early and I'm sure the forecast will get better. Hopefully these possible showers move in early cause Monday the 5th is suppose to be sunny all day. Now is a good time to pray to the weather gods!! ;)


Say it isn't so! Cold and wet isn't a great combo. Gonna put the weather gods on notice.

[CaptDanbo]

Say it isn't so! Cold and wet isn't a great combo. Gonna put the weather gods on notice.
Down to 20% at my last check......that's for showers.....so it may not be that bad.

Oh and Ilona and walt came by today to finalize their plan for meeting us on Day 1. While they were here, they mentioned that route 7 south of Burlington wasn't a very scenic route so we opted for route 116 out of Burlington which also takes us to Route 17. There is also a junction further south where 7 joins 116. If you swing 116 instead of taking 7 all the way up to 17 you may buy a little more time. 116 joins 17 about 6 miles east of where 7 joins 17. I'll map it out later. Just a thought. 116 looks like a better route scenery wise.

[CaptDanbo]

Steve,

Here is the possible change in your route to join us at the junction of 116 and 17 instead of 7 and 17. About 10 minutes more driving (slower road) but puts you more east than route 7. Let me know. Ilona, Walt, Doc, Elvie and I will be at 116 and 17 for 12:30pm. If you decide to go the way you originally mapper it, just keep going east on 17 till you run into us at 116.

Here is the possible new route for you: New Route (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004749931dc3d7924cee&ll=44.078707,-73.047409&spn=0.300898,0.587769&z=11)

[Doc Rick]

Saturday, Oct 3
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_frcst_bg/06.gif
High: 60 °F RealFeel®: 56 °F
Partly sunny with a shower possible

Saturday Night, Oct 3
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_night_bg/36.gif
Low: 42 °F RealFeel®: 44 °F
Partly cloudy

Sunday, Oct 4
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_frcst_bg/04.gif
High: 60 °F RealFeel®: 62 °F
Not as cool with periods of sun

Sunday Night, Oct 4
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_night_bg/18.gif
Low: 43 °F RealFeel®: 38 °F
Rain

[Doc Rick]

Steve,

Here is the possible change in your route to join us at the junction of 116 and 17 instead of 7 and 17. About 10 minutes more driving (slower road) but puts you more east than route 7. Let me know. Ilona, Walt, Doc, Elvie and I will be at 116 and 17 for 12:30pm. If you decide to go the way you originally mapper it, just keep going east on 17 till you run into us at 116.

Here is the possible new route for you: New Route (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004749931dc3d7924cee&ll=44.078707,-73.047409&spn=0.300898,0.587769&z=11)

With your routes, this is the total map, day 1 and day 2.
Day 1 = 240 mi – about 6 hours 56 mins
Day 2 = 265 mi – about 7 hours 13 mins

Can you say "OUCH"

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Willow+St&daddr=Hooksett+Rd+to:Hooksett+Rd%2FNH-28%2FUS-3+to:NH-16%2FRte-16%2FWhite+Mountain+Rd+to:Kancamagus+Hwy%2FNH-112+to:NH-112%2FWild+Ammonoosuc+Rd+to:State+Forest+Rd%2FVT-232+to:S+Walden+Rd+to:VT-15%2FVT+Route+15+W+to:Fairfax+Rd%2FVT-104+to:Rte-78%2FVT-78+to:Roosevelt+Hwy%2FUS-2%2FUS-7+to:Main+St+to:N+116+Rd%2FRte-116%2FVT-116+to:Main+St%2FVT-100+to:US-4%2FUS+Route+4%2FVT-100+to:Maxfield+Parish+Hwy%2FNH-12A%2FRte-12A+to:NH-103%2FNH-11%2FWashington+St+to:NH-103%2FNH-11%2FSunapee+St+to:NH-114%2FN+Stark+Hwy+to:42.958935,-71.496964&geocode=FdiLjwIdAuq9-w%3BFV9GkAIdea29-w%3BFXoBkQIdpeO9-w%3BFeLfmgId7OvC-w%3BFXzDnwId3Bq9-w%3BFZo6oQId_Fu2-w%3BFY6ZowIdDgmx-w%3BFfuypQIdUZqw-w%3BFR04qQId_kSq-w%3BFfGLqwIdnv6k-w%3BFd40rgIdYnii-w%3BFSKnpwId4oij-w%3BFUjhpgIdyEOj-w%3BFYS-oQIdUGal-w%3BFZGkoQIdSIuo-w%3BFcXqmQIdOKap-w%3BFe_NmAIdFRKw-w%3BFfuolQIdo6uw-w%3BFZjolQId0jOz-w%3BFVAbkgIdcAO5-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=20&sz=11&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1

[CaptDanbo]

I said it was an ambitious road trip! Are you up for it Doc? Elvie is excited. I figured about 500 miles round trip. Should be a great ride. Is a
9:00am departure good for you Doc? (from DD) Ilona is working late Friday night and is going to meet us in Lincoln after we get out of the kanc. Then it's off to Vermont. 9am should get us through the kanc around noon and Ilona will meet us around 12:30. Gives us some oportunity for picture stops.

[SPGrenier]

Steve,

Here is the possible change in your route to join us at the junction of 116 and 17 instead of 7 and 17. About 10 minutes more driving (slower road) but puts you more east than route 7. Let me know. Ilona, Walt, Doc, Elvie and I will be at 116 and 17 for 12:30pm. If you decide to go the way you originally mapper it, just keep going east on 17 till you run into us at 116.

Here is the possible new route for you: New Route (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004749931dc3d7924cee&ll=44.078707,-73.047409&spn=0.300898,0.587769&z=11)

12:30 at the junction of 116 and 17. We'll get there!

[btalon]

I said it was an ambitious road trip! Are you up for it Doc? Elvie is excited. I figured about 500 miles round trip. Should be a great ride. Is a
9:00am departure good for you Doc? (from DD) Ilona is working late Friday night and is going to meet us in Lincoln after we get out of the kanc. Then it's off to Vermont. 9am should get us through the kanc around noon and Ilona will meet us around 12:30. Gives us some oportunity for picture stops.

As long as you don't have Steve leading you, could turn into 700 miles! :yikes:

[CaptDanbo]

As long as you don't have Steve leading you, could turn into 700 miles! :yikes:
Could be worse Paul.....Orange will be in the lead!! :thumbup::dontknow:

[Ilona]

Could be worse Paul.....Orange will be in the lead!! :thumbup::dontknow:

As long as the orange doesn't blend in with the foilage and we can't see him all should be good!! Doc, those are real doable days, Walt and I have done them and wer'e old, so you youngsters should have no problem doing it, now if the weather holds all will be good!! There's a heated pool at the hotel you can soak in when we get there..:grin:

[SPGrenier]

As long as you don't have Steve leading you, could turn into 700 miles! :yikes:

I'm not gonna bite!

[moo315]

With your routes, this is the total map, day 1 and day 2.
Day 1 = 240 mi – about 6 hours 56 mins
Day 2 = 265 mi – about 7 hours 13 mins

Can you say "OUCH"

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Willow+St&daddr=Hooksett+Rd+to:Hooksett+Rd%2FNH-28%2FUS-3+to:NH-16%2FRte-16%2FWhite+Mountain+Rd+to:Kancamagus+Hwy%2FNH-112+to:NH-112%2FWild+Ammonoosuc+Rd+to:State+Forest+Rd%2FVT-232+to:S+Walden+Rd+to:VT-15%2FVT+Route+15+W+to:Fairfax+Rd%2FVT-104+to:Rte-78%2FVT-78+to:Roosevelt+Hwy%2FUS-2%2FUS-7+to:Main+St+to:N+116+Rd%2FRte-116%2FVT-116+to:Main+St%2FVT-100+to:US-4%2FUS+Route+4%2FVT-100+to:Maxfield+Parish+Hwy%2FNH-12A%2FRte-12A+to:NH-103%2FNH-11%2FWashington+St+to:NH-103%2FNH-11%2FSunapee+St+to:NH-114%2FN+Stark+Hwy+to:42.958935,-71.496964&geocode=FdiLjwIdAuq9-w%3BFV9GkAIdea29-w%3BFXoBkQIdpeO9-w%3BFeLfmgId7OvC-w%3BFXzDnwId3Bq9-w%3BFZo6oQId_Fu2-w%3BFY6ZowIdDgmx-w%3BFfuypQIdUZqw-w%3BFR04qQId_kSq-w%3BFfGLqwIdnv6k-w%3BFd40rgIdYnii-w%3BFSKnpwId4oij-w%3BFUjhpgIdyEOj-w%3BFYS-oQIdUGal-w%3BFZGkoQIdSIuo-w%3BFcXqmQIdOKap-w%3BFe_NmAIdFRKw-w%3BFfuolQIdo6uw-w%3BFZjolQId0jOz-w%3BFVAbkgIdcAO5-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=20&sz=11&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1

Your gonna wish you bought that new seat...

[Doc Rick]

Your gonna wish you bought that new seat...

I gotta week, pulling the VHS "Buns of Steel", I'll be ready for the ride.
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[moo315]

I gotta week, pulling the VHS "Buns of Steel", I'll be ready for the ride.
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Im not letting Beth anywhere near you if your butt ends up looking like that...

[CaptDanbo]

Im not letting Beth anywhere near you if your butt ends up looking like that...
Mike, if Doc's butt looks like that, he may have just had a sex change!! :yikes:

[English]

i only started reading the thread from this page.....i see you're all still very disturbed:thumbup:

[SPGrenier]

i only started reading the thread from this page.....i see you're all still very disturbed:thumbup:

Hey there Rich. Nothing changes. It's like a day time soap opera. You can step away for a bit and the characters are all the same, as is the story line.

God help Vermont next weekend! I'm not sure if the good people of St. Albans know what's coming there way.

Between Dan and Doc's pipes, I think that all of the birds will be scared off to an early trip south.

[CaptDanbo]

i only started reading the thread from this page.....i see you're all still very disturbed:thumbup:
We've actually been pretty mellow lately, but we'll need to gear up for the winter fun soon just to keep us alive till spring.

[SPGrenier]

Steve,

Here is the possible change in your route to join us at the junction of 116 and 17 instead of 7 and 17. About 10 minutes more driving (slower road) but puts you more east than route 7. Let me know. Ilona, Walt, Doc, Elvie and I will be at 116 and 17 for 12:30pm. If you decide to go the way you originally mapper it, just keep going east on 17 till you run into us at 116.

Here is the possible new route for you: New Route (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004749931dc3d7924cee&ll=44.078707,-73.047409&spn=0.300898,0.587769&z=11)


Dan, I took a closer look at our new meeting point at 116 an 17. We'll meet you by the big tree. We'll try not to block any traffic or cows. I hope it's paved.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=merrimack+Nh&daddr=NH-10%2FNH-101%2FNH-12+to:NH-12+to:S+116+Rd%2FVT-116+to:44.129431,-73.097491&geocode=%3BFbzzjgId9NKw-w%3BFYJekAId4Keu-w%3BFQJHoAIdcLak-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=4&sz=15&via=2,3&sll=44.125026,-73.091784&sspn=0.019993,0.038409&ie=UTF8&ll=44.129265,-73.097202&spn=0.002499,0.004801&t=h&z=18

[Ilona]

[quote=SPGrenier;2540989]Dan, I took a closer look at our new meeting point at 116 an 17. We'll meet you by the big tree. We'll try not to block any traffic or cows. I hope it's paved.


did you notice that Lovers Lane is right there also!!:yikes:

[CaptDanbo]

[quote=SPGrenier;2540989]Dan, I took a closer look at our new meeting point at 116 an 17. We'll meet you by the big tree. We'll try not to block any traffic or cows. I hope it's paved.


did you notice that Lovers Lane is right there also!!:yikes:
Gotta love it!! :yikes:

[CaptDanbo]

Dan, I took a closer look at our new meeting point at 116 an 17. We'll meet you by the big tree. We'll try not to block any traffic or cows. I hope it's paved.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=merrimack+Nh&daddr=NH-10%2FNH-101%2FNH-12+to:NH-12+to:S+116+Rd%2FVT-116+to:44.129431,-73.097491&geocode=%3BFbzzjgId9NKw-w%3BFYJekAId4Keu-w%3BFQJHoAIdcLak-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=4&sz=15&via=2,3&sll=44.125026,-73.091784&sspn=0.019993,0.038409&ie=UTF8&ll=44.129265,-73.097202&spn=0.002499,0.004801&t=h&z=18
The other meeting point at 7 and 17 wasn't much better!! We will definitely be in okie country!!

[SPGrenier]

The other meeting point at 7 and 17 wasn't much better!! We will definitely be in okie country!!

Yeah but at least there was one free standing building. I guess either way, it looks like we'll have to manage our fluid intake very carefully.

[Doc Rick]

Dan, I took a closer look at our new meeting point at 116 an 17. We'll meet you by the big tree. We'll try not to block any traffic or cows. I hope it's paved.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=merrimack+Nh&daddr=NH-10%2FNH-101%2FNH-12+to:NH-12+to:S+116+Rd%2FVT-116+to:44.129431,-73.097491&geocode=%3BFbzzjgId9NKw-w%3BFYJekAId4Keu-w%3BFQJHoAIdcLak-w%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=4&sz=15&via=2,3&sll=44.125026,-73.091784&sspn=0.019993,0.038409&ie=UTF8&ll=44.129265,-73.097202&spn=0.002499,0.004801&t=h&z=18

Sorry Steve, I can't let this go. Your lost already and we're not even on the road, yet. Your about 4.4 miles off the mark. Your 17 and 116 intersection is where 116 goes south. The actual 17 and 116 intersection that we should meet at is where 116 is coming down from the north. Also, it to my understanding that were taking 17 east to rt 100. It still is very deserted, and there might be a nice tree to meet at, but it is 9 minutes away from your tree. I hope we actually do get to meet up, but there's always other rides.lol
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Steve's+Tree+%4044.129430712183485,-73.09751272201538&daddr=44.153637,-73.045349&geocode=FZdcoQId156k-w%3B&hl=en&mra=mi&mrsp=1&sz=13&sll=44.154007,-73.074703&sspn=0.07168,0.181103&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13

[CaptDanbo]

Sorry Steve, I can't let this go. Your lost already and we're not even on the road, yet. Your about 4.4 miles off the mark. Your 17 and 116 intersection is where 116 goes south. The actual 17 and 116 intersection that we should meet at is where 116 is coming down from the north. Also, it to my understanding that were taking 17 east to rt 100. It still is very deserted, and there might be a nice tree to meet at, but it is 9 minutes away from your tree. I hope we actually do get to meet up, but there's always other rides.lol
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Steve's+Tree+%4044.129430712183485,-73.09751272201538&daddr=44.153637,-73.045349&geocode=FZdcoQId156k-w%3B&hl=en&mra=mi&mrsp=1&sz=13&sll=44.154007,-73.074703&sspn=0.07168,0.181103&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Steve%27s+Tree+%4044.129430712183485,-73.09751272201538&daddr=44.153637,-73.045349&geocode=FZdcoQId156k-w%3B&hl=en&mra=mi&mrsp=1&sz=13&sll=44.154007,-73.074703&sspn=0.07168,0.181103&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13)

Doc is right Steve.....I just didn't have the heart to say anything right now. I was going to wait till you got to your tree and then send you up to the correct intersection. :D

[shaw351c]

After carefully looking at Steve's name here { SPGrenier } something has become apparent... If you take the first three capitalized letters and reverse them you get GPS. Something does not add up... my garmin Nuvi GPS always gets me where I need to go, but with him?????????
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Just kidding Steve, I always see things backwards now that im 45:roll:

[CaptDanbo]

After carefully looking at Steve's name here { SPGrenier } something has become apparent... If you take the first three capitalized letters and reverse them you get GPS. Something does not add up... my garmin Nuvi GPS always gets me where I need to go, but with him?????????
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Just kidding Steve, I always see things backwards now that im 45:roll:
Good one Joe......very fitting!:thumbup:

[English]

After carefully looking at Steve's name here { SPGrenier } something has become apparent... If you take the first three capitalized letters and reverse them you get GPS. Something does not add up... my garmin Nuvi GPS always gets me where I need to go, but with him?????????
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Just kidding Steve, I always see things backwards now that im 45:roll:

Spooooky:yikes:

[SPGrenier]

Sorry Steve, I can't let this go. Your lost already and we're not even on the road, yet. Your about 4.4 miles off the mark. Your 17 and 116 intersection is where 116 goes south. The actual 17 and 116 intersection that we should meet at is where 116 is coming down from the north. Also, it to my understanding that were taking 17 east to rt 100. It still is very deserted, and there might be a nice tree to meet at, but it is 9 minutes away from your tree. I hope we actually do get to meet up, but there's always other rides.lol
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Steve's+Tree+%4044.129430712183485,-73.09751272201538&daddr=44.153637,-73.045349&geocode=FZdcoQId156k-w%3B&hl=en&mra=mi&mrsp=1&sz=13&sll=44.154007,-73.074703&sspn=0.07168,0.181103&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13


Last I knew I was travelling up from the south. But if you prefer a different junction of 116 and 17 I'm ok with that. Will this be the last change in the route that you'd like me to make? If for some reason we don't connect, I'm going to let you decide if it was by accident or intentional. :mrgreen:

[btalon]

As long as the orange doesn't blend in with the foilage and we can't see him all should be good!! Doc, those are real doable days, Walt and I have done them and wer'e old, so you youngsters should have no problem doing it, now if the weather holds all will be good!! There's a heated pool at the hotel you can soak in when we get there..:grin:

Don't want to rain on the parade, but is the pool inside? Most places up here have already winterized the pools and they are shut down for the season. I know sunday river keeps them going all year round, cool to be in them while it's snowing, of course if it's indoor, then your all set.

[CaptDanbo]

Don't want to rain on the parade, but is the pool inside? Most places up here have already winterized the pools and they are shut down for the season. I know sunday river keeps them going all year round, cool to be in them while it's snowing, of course if it's indoor, then your all set.
Yea Paul......the hotel has a heated indoor pool. The rain however will be on the outside going up to0 the hotel.

[Doc Rick]

Last I knew I was travelling up from the south. But if you prefer a different junction of 116 and 17 I'm ok with that. Will this be the last change in the route that you'd like me to make? If for some reason we don't connect, I'm going to let you decide if it was by accident or intentional. :mrgreen:

You are travelling up from the south, but your maps show you coming up route 7 and then travelling east on 17, not travelling north on 116. Dan and I are travelling south on 116 (from the north), so no reason for us to go west on 17 and turn around and go east after we meet up at your tree. Just a thought.

[SPGrenier]

You are travelling up from the south, but your maps show you coming up route 7 and then travelling east on 17, not travelling north on 116. Dan and I are travelling south on 116 (from the north), so no reason for us to go west on 17 and turn around and go east after we meet up at your tree. Just a thought.

I have a couple of different routes to consider to get me there. We're good though. I never looked at any junction beyond the first one. I haven't paid any attention to the routes you guys are taking because I won't be on it. We have a solid meeting spot and time and should be all set.

I can take the jabs. Laughing is good medicine!

[shaw351c]

I have a couple of different routes to consider to get me there. We're good though. I never looked at any junction beyond the first one. I haven't paid any attention to the routes you guys are taking because I won't be on it. We have a solid meeting spot and time and should be all set.

I can take the jabs. Laughing is good medicine!

Let's see Steve can take the Jabs, Captn' Dan does Jib-Jab's... It must be a family thing :popcorn::popcorn:

[Doc Rick]

This is St. Albans forcast
Saturday, Oct 3
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_frcst_bg/18.gif
High: 69 °F RealFeel®: 65 °F
Rain

Saturday Night, Oct 3
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_night_bg/18.gif
Low: 56 °F RealFeel®: 55 °F
Mild with rain and a thunderstorm

Sunday, Oct 4
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_frcst_bg/06.gif
High: 67 °F RealFeel®: 66 °F
Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain

If this remains to be the forecast by Thursday night, I will be dropping out for Saturday, and might join Steve on Sunday. I think Ilona and Walt express the same thoughts about rain.

[Ilona]

This is St. Albans forcast
Saturday, Oct 3
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_frcst_bg/18.gif
High: 69 °F RealFeel®: 65 °F
Rain

Saturday Night, Oct 3
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_night_bg/18.gif
Low: 56 °F RealFeel®: 55 °F
Mild with rain and a thunderstorm

Sunday, Oct 4
http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_frcst_bg/06.gif
High: 67 °F RealFeel®: 66 °F
Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain

If this remains to be the forecast by Thursday night, I will be dropping out for Saturday, and might join Steve on Sunday. I think Ilona and Walt express the same thoughts about rain.


same here, I keep watching the forcast for here and there and hoping it will change, their after me at work to work Sunday and I've put them off till Thursday for an answer..wet leaves on those roads don't turn me on at all, guess I've just ridden to long to want to get wet just for the sake of a ride,theres always a sunny day coming and I can ride then..lets hope the weather takes a turn, wer'e really looking forward to this trip..they also get lake effect up there because of the water right next to them..come on mr. sun!!

[CaptDanbo]

I'm winging it till the very last minute. We had a similar forecast for one of the northern rides and I bailed at the last minute. Turned out to be a decent day for the northern boys. So, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[Ilona]

Been watching weather at both ends..just about the same forecast..fingers crossed here also..:rain1:go away rain!!

[SPGrenier]

Well WMUR shows possible rain on Sunday morning but a clear day after that. If the overnight becomes a wash, we can all get together early Sunday morning and make a day of it. We could even shoot for the 1st junction on 116. I might even let you follow me! :mrgreen:

[CaptDanbo]

Well WMUR shows possible rain on Sunday morning but a clear day after that. If the overnight becomes a wash, we can all get together early Sunday morning and make a day of it. We could even shoot for the 1st junction on 116. I might even let you follow me! :mrgreen:
It's looking like the overnight is definitely going to be a washout. I agree with you that we could probably make a day of it on Sunday. Going your route to the meeting point at 116 and 17 is good (yes you can lead) and then we could follow the route I had set up for Sunday. (minus the lake islands of course) It still makes a good days ride with plenty of foliage. I think I saw a picture of a little restaurant on the stretch of 17 between the south junction of 116 and the north junction of 116. I'll try to get the name and post it. So, if everyone agrees.....we'll cancel the overnight and work towards a Sunday ride.

[Doc Rick]

it's looking like the overnight is definitely going to be a washout. I agree with you that we could probably make a day of it on sunday. Going your route to the meeting point at 116 and 17 is good (yes you can lead) and then we could follow the route i had set up for sunday. (minus the lake islands of course) it still makes a good days ride with plenty of foliage. I think i saw a picture of a little restaurant on the stretch of 17 between the south junction of 116 and the north junction of 116. I'll try to get the name and post it. So, if everyone agrees.....we'll cancel the overnight and work towards a sunday ride.
agree, cancel saturday, cancel the hotel rooms

[SPGrenier]

I want to thank everyone for taking the pressure off of me to have to find you. What a relief!

Actually Dan, I was kinda making fun for the Sunday ride to see if, after all the crap I got, you'd be willing to follow me.

Well, I'm not sure what's up for Sunday then. Liz is taking the kids to the Deerfield Fair Sunday. If the ride is cancelled I probably will run up there with her.

Let me follow this for another day. I'd have to get the word out to Carl and Joe S.

I think that Jim had posted that he wasn't available.

[SPGrenier]

I was out on the bike today and met up with Elmer to do some peddler work. He was saying that the foliage is well on it's way at about 75%. So, peak season is upon us.

[CaptDanbo]

I was out on the bike today and met up with Elmer to do some peddler work. He was saying that the foliage is well on it's way at about 75%. So, peak season is upon us.
This should be the best week for it for sure. My next weekend off would be the 17th and 18th, but I think that would be late for the foliage. It's already changing drastically down here.

[CaptDanbo]

I want to thank everyone for taking the pressure off of me to have to find you. What a relief!

Actually Dan, I was kinda making fun for the Sunday ride to see if, after all the crap I got, you'd be willing to follow me.

Well, I'm not sure what's up for Sunday then. Liz is taking the kids to the Deerfield Fair Sunday. If the ride is cancelled I probably will run up there with her.

Let me follow this for another day. I'd have to get the word out to Carl and Joe S.

I think that Jim had posted that he wasn't available.
I have never had a problem following you brother......I do love bustin your chops though and I figured giving you some "lead" time could lend to some more laughs later!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Ilona]

:rain1:sucks..so guess I'll work this weekend and hope for sun later..maybe we can do the Quabbin reservoir the next weekend your off Dan, the color should be good down that way by then..If you do go this weekend, have a great time even in the truck..was really hoping mother nature would cut us some slack, but guess not...maybe the sun will peek out Sunday afternoon and we can sneak a short ride in somewhere..see everyone soon..

[CaptDanbo]

:rain1:sucks..so guess I'll work this weekend and hope for sun later..maybe we can do the Quabbin reservoir the next weekend your off Dan, the color should be good down that way by then..If you do go this weekend, have a great time even in the truck..was really hoping mother nature would cut us some slack, but guess not...maybe the sun will peek out Sunday afternoon and we can sneak a short ride in somewhere..see everyone soon..
The overnight is definitely cancelled as is the hotel room we had reserved. So Saturday is definitely out of the running.
Rain is suppose to clear up on Sunday, so some of us are probably going to make a day ride through Vermont. Talking about going up the route Steve had to meet us, then swing around 17 to route 100 and do the remainder of my day 2 route, skipping the Burlington and Lake Champlain islands of course.
At this point I can't commit to my next weekend off since my folks have been planning a BBQ that weekend. So things will be up in the air depending on weather. All I can say is.......we'll have to play it by ear.

[Ilona]

I'm working the motorcycle course on Sunday, but if the weathers good in the morning Walt will catch up with you guys for the ride I'm sure..

[shaw351c]

Just watching to see what unfolds for us this Sunday. I do not have plans, so let's see what the weather is going to do. ;) Joe ;)

[Doc Rick]

Forecast states that Sunday Morning will be "drying up" and could reach 70 in the afternoon. We can have a good ride. Lets watch the weather to determine a starting time.
Ilona, as far as next weekend, I might be in Mass that weekend near the Quabbin and could definitely meet up with whoever wants to go. Keep me updated. Oh, by the way, Ilona, thanks for the IM updates on this weekend.

[FIREMANJEFF]

i could be in for sunday

[SPGrenier]

The overnight is definitely cancelled as is the hotel room we had reserved. So Saturday is definitely out of the running.
Rain is suppose to clear up on Sunday, so some of us are probably going to make a day ride through Vermont. Talking about going up the route Steve had to meet us, then swing around 17 to route 100 and do the remainder of my day 2 route, skipping the Burlington and Lake Champlain islands of course.
At this point I can't commit to my next weekend off since my folks have been planning a BBQ that weekend. So things will be up in the air depending on weather. All I can say is.......we'll have to play it by ear.

Dan, when I didn't get Saturday off, my tentitive game plan was to possibly go to the fair that day. Now that Saturday is a washout, that only leaves Sunday, the final day of the fair.

At this point, I now have Sunday and Monday off. If given the choice between riding on Sunday or the fair, I'm going to have to hit the fair with the family. It's tough sometimes to do things with the family, so that look like my game plan.

I will post something possibly for Monday. I know some people have posted an interest on a weekday ride and this might be a good option.

As to what course you might take, if you are going to morph my route to your return trip, you are going to have to get a fairly early start. I haven't looked at your end but mine was a 4 hour plus leg.

[Doc Rick]

It's raining, It's pouring, my wife's upstairs...snoring.
6:33am and no ride today/ makes it really boring.:dontknow:

[CaptDanbo]

It's raining, It's pouring, my wife's upstairs...snoring.
6:33am and no ride today/ makes it really boring.:dontknow:
Oh I knew it was going to be a crash and burn today. Hotel rooms got cancelled yesterday. Sunday has possibilities, but it looks like the only ones that might be up for it are Elvie and I and possibly you Doc. Steve is taking the kids to the Deerfield Fair. Ilona is working and Walt is a maybe. Not sure about Joe yet. I'm thinking maybe a modified route for Sunday might be in order. I'm going to keep checking the weather today and check the boards to see who is still interested.

[moo315]

I dont think I Will be making it either...bike is still in pieces, axle was seized in the bearings and had to use a bigger hammer and no wood to get it out. I may still have to go to Berlin today :mad: so I wont be able to get wheel to moms to get changed.

[SPGrenier]

I spoke to Dan about an hour ago. He still has hopes and plans to ride on Sunday as the weather will permit. He was a little busy and hoped to post something later in the day.

Jim, Carl and Joe S were all possibles for a Sunday ride when we were planning a run to meet the St Albans crew. Maybe they're still up for Sunday.

[CaptDanbo]

Alright......here is the latest. Weather should be clearing up in the morning. I plan on meeting at DD at 9:00am only if other people are planning on going with Elvie and I. Otherwise, we are going to leave my house at 9:00am. If we do have people meeting at DD, we will leave there at 9:30 am. Again, from the looks of things, most people are not going on this ride. I've got another ambitious route planned because I want to include route 100 and route 4 as part of the trip. Here is the new map. It is about 300 miles. New Foliage Route (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004750cf420516e5b188&ll=43.825611,-72.180176&spn=0.725237,1.260681&z=10)
Elvie and I are going so anyone still interested can chime in and let me know if they are going and if they want to meet at DD or at my house.

[Doc Rick]

Alright......here is the latest. Weather should be clearing up in the morning. I plan on meeting at DD at 9:00am only if other people are planning on going with Elvie and I. Otherwise, we are going to leave my house at 9:00am. If we do have people meeting at DD, we will leave there at 9:30 am. Again, from the looks of things, most people are not going on this ride. I've got another ambitious route planned because I want to include route 100 and route 4 as part of the trip. Here is the new map. It is about 300 miles. New Foliage Route (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115647722648546197168.0004750cf420516e5b188&ll=43.825611,-72.180176&spn=0.725237,1.260681&z=10)
Elvie and I are going so anyone still interested can chime in and let me know if they are going and if they want to meet at DD or at my house.
Where's lunch?

[CaptDanbo]

Where's lunch?
Where ever we want. Cruise till we get hungry. The route is different than the original, so I didn't plan on anything in particular for lunch. It's 98 miles to Bradford, so that is probably a good spot for food and fuel.

[shaw351c]

Once again life interveniens my riding plans, because im a nice guy and always willing to help out anybody... tomorrow I have to help a co-worker get his home furnace running. He started it up today due to the cold and guess what... lots of noise & smoke but no heat. Im not sure how long it will take but it looks like my participation in the ride will not happen. It's a bummer but these things happen, hopefully the Sun gods will be smiling for all that go. I will be there in spirit though:thumbup:, and if somehow a wrong turn is made just blame me for not being there.
There should be a nice weekend or two left for a good ride. Don't forget that next saturday is the NH grass drags, and sunday is the pumpkin boat races in damariscottia maine @ the harbor. :cry: Joe :cry:

P.S. If anybody needs advice or help with their heating system just let me know since I kinda know about them.

[Doc Rick]

Dan, your sure you want to be this aggressive with a 9:30 start. I remapped your map so I could see some stats. I got 9 hours, 320 miles. Thats 6:30pm return with no stops. And we know that we're stopping several times plus lunch. Over estimating stop times to be approx. 90-120 additional minutes.
Your route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=42.962139,-71.439886&daddr=Buck+St+to:Fisherville+Rd+to:NH-3A%2FNH+Route+3A+to:VT-25%2FVT+Route+25+to:Rte-100%2FVT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:VT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:US-4%2FUS+Route+4%2FVT-100+to:Bridge+St%2FUS-4+to:NH-12A%2FNH+Route+12A+to:NH-114%2FState+Route+114+to:NH-114%2FS+Stark+Hwy+to:I-293+S&geocode=%3BFZo_kgId4vW9-w%3BFdgJlAIdPs67-w%3BFbt7mAIdVW65-w%3BFTK9oAId3BWx-w%3BFYiQowIdUGWp-w%3BFdyloAIdFkGo-w%3BFYoxmgIdJI2p-w%3BFXgOmgId4pSw-w%3BFb7UlwId4H6v-w%3BFQwNlAIdJFK2-w%3BFYz0kAId3MO5-w%3BFdJajwId3bO9-w&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=14&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11&sll=42.954538,-71.440144&sspn=0.036561,0.090551&ie=UTF8&ll=43.578401,-71.924744&spn=1.15801,2.897644&z=9

It's only a suggestion, but what about taking 89 all the way up, I don't like highways anymore than the next biker but it saves a whole hour. We are not even sure how the roads will be in the morning.
Suggested route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Willow+St&daddr=Buck+St+to:Fisherville+Rd+to:I-89+S+to:44.033308,-72.611389+to:Rte-100%2FVT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:VT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:US-4%2FUS+Route+4%2FVT-100+to:Bridge+St%2FUS-4+to:NH-12A%2FNH+Route+12A+to:NH-114%2FState+Route+114+to:NH-114%2FS+Stark+Hwy+to:I-293+S&geocode=FZWMjwIdtum9-w%3BFZo_kgId4vW9-w%3BFdgJlAIdPs67-w%3BFYjSmAIdrASz-w%3B%3BFYiQowIdUGWp-w%3BFdyloAIdFkGo-w%3BFYoxmgIdJI2p-w%3BFXgOmgId4pSw-w%3BFb7UlwId4H6v-w%3BFQwNlAIdJFK2-w%3BFYz0kAId3MO5-w%3BFdJajwId3bO9-w&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=4&sz=10&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11&sll=43.981946,-72.637482&sspn=0.575111,1.448822&ie=UTF8&ll=44.189097,-72.718506&spn=0.573101,1.448822&t=h&z=10

[CaptDanbo]

Dan, your sure you want to be this aggressive with a 9:30 start. I remapped your map so I could see some stats. I got 9 hours, 320 miles. Thats 6:30pm return with no stops. And we know that we're stopping several times plus lunch. Over estimating stop times to be approx. 90-120 additional minutes.
Your route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=42.962139,-71.439886&daddr=Buck+St+to:Fisherville+Rd+to:NH-3A%2FNH+Route+3A+to:VT-25%2FVT+Route+25+to:Rte-100%2FVT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:VT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:US-4%2FUS+Route+4%2FVT-100+to:Bridge+St%2FUS-4+to:NH-12A%2FNH+Route+12A+to:NH-114%2FState+Route+114+to:NH-114%2FS+Stark+Hwy+to:I-293+S&geocode=%3BFZo_kgId4vW9-w%3BFdgJlAIdPs67-w%3BFbt7mAIdVW65-w%3BFTK9oAId3BWx-w%3BFYiQowIdUGWp-w%3BFdyloAIdFkGo-w%3BFYoxmgIdJI2p-w%3BFXgOmgId4pSw-w%3BFb7UlwId4H6v-w%3BFQwNlAIdJFK2-w%3BFYz0kAId3MO5-w%3BFdJajwId3bO9-w&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=14&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11&sll=42.954538,-71.440144&sspn=0.036561,0.090551&ie=UTF8&ll=43.578401,-71.924744&spn=1.15801,2.897644&z=9

It's only a suggestion, but what about taking 89 all the way up, I don't like highways anymore than the next biker but it saves a whole hour. We are not even sure how the roads will be in the morning.
Suggested route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Willow+St&daddr=Buck+St+to:Fisherville+Rd+to:I-89+S+to:44.033308,-72.611389+to:Rte-100%2FVT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:VT-100%2FVT+Route+100+to:US-4%2FUS+Route+4%2FVT-100+to:Bridge+St%2FUS-4+to:NH-12A%2FNH+Route+12A+to:NH-114%2FState+Route+114+to:NH-114%2FS+Stark+Hwy+to:I-293+S&geocode=FZWMjwIdtum9-w%3BFZo_kgId4vW9-w%3BFdgJlAIdPs67-w%3BFYjSmAIdrASz-w%3B%3BFYiQowIdUGWp-w%3BFdyloAIdFkGo-w%3BFYoxmgIdJI2p-w%3BFXgOmgId4pSw-w%3BFb7UlwId4H6v-w%3BFQwNlAIdJFK2-w%3BFYz0kAId3MO5-w%3BFdJajwId3bO9-w&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=4&sz=10&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11&sll=43.981946,-72.637482&sspn=0.575111,1.448822&ie=UTF8&ll=44.189097,-72.718506&spn=0.573101,1.448822&t=h&z=10

I have no problem with the aggressive route I picked. Elvie really doesn't want to do an hour or so on any highway and you have a good stretch on 89. I figure I added about an hour from the original day 2 trip and I'm OK with that. Shaving an hour for the highway would keep Elvie from doing the ride. So, I think I'll stay with my plan. Let me know if you're still interested Doc.

[SPGrenier]

I have no problem with the aggressive route I picked. Elvie really doesn't want to do an hour or so on any highway and you have a good stretch on 89. I figure I added about an hour from the original day 2 trip and I'm OK with that. Shaving an hour for the highway would keep Elvie from doing the ride. So, I think I'll stay with my plan. Let me know if you're still interested Doc.

4:30am and I'm just getting in from work. For whatever it's worth, the google stats for drive times aren't always accurate. I know that when we drove up to White River a couple of weeks ago, we were 30 to 45 minutes ahead of schedule.

I haven't looked at the route, but if you have some escape routes along the way to reduce the overall ride, you would have options.

[Doc Rick]

OK OK Ok, Grenier Brothers...you have made your points. I guess if its only one of you going, we probably won't be adding time with wrong turns.
If I do go,and lead at all or even sit in the #2 position and push the leader, (because we know how this ended http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199459 ) I suppose we could gain a lot of time. lol:lol:

DAN, I'll be at D&D at 8:45-9:00. Looks like its only us three(2 bikes), so lets get going at 9:15 or sooner.

[moo315]

Beth and I will meet you for coffee if your going to DD

[CaptDanbo]

4:30am and I'm just getting in from work. For whatever it's worth, the google stats for drive times aren't always accurate. I know that when we drove up to White River a couple of weeks ago, we were 30 to 45 minutes ahead of schedule.

I haven't looked at the route, but if you have some escape routes along the way to reduce the overall ride, you would have options.

I figured the escape route to be 89 at White River Junction. If we get tired or want to cut it short we can do 89 back to 93. But, Elvie really doesn't want to bang 60-70 miles on 89 at the beginning of the road trip and neither do I. As it stands, we are go for liftoff. Doesn't look like anyone wants to meet at DD on S. Willow, so Elvie and I will be leaving our house between 9:00 and 9:30am.

[rikyfre]

You guys have a good ride today, wish I could make it. The list is still long and deep (that's what she said!!!) for the recon job. Work has picked up quite a bit and I haven't been spending as much time on it during the week. I may try to squeeze an hour in this afternoon just to get the cobwebs off the bike.

[Doc Rick]

Danbo, per our call, We'll meet at D&D. Mike and Beth, yes to coffee. Enjoy the company, Mike, and if you have to bring Beth, so be it.:-? Mike,left you an invite on Facebook after you posted.

[moo315]

Danbo, per our call, We'll meet at D&D. Mike and Beth, yes to coffee. Enjoy the company, Mike, and if you have to bring Beth, so be it.:-? Mike,left you an invite on Facebook after you posted.

:thumbup: Beth says OUCH !!!

[CaptDanbo]

Heading out for DD in a few minutes.

[moo315]

Well :dontknow: Dont tell me your still out there...:???:

[SPGrenier]

I haven't heard from him Mike.

[CaptDanbo]

No......we've been back for a while now. I just posted on the other thread. Got home about 7:20 pm. Doc would have got home a little later. Pretty good ride Mike, just really LONG. The last 60 miles or so really did me and Elvie in. But considering this was Elvie's longest ride EVER, she did great! I'm sure Doc and his stock seat must be doing well too. Nine hours even in the Mustang seat was still rough. We had lunch/ dinner around 3:00pm at some little general store in some little town whose name eludes me. I'm sure I'll remember later after I get some sleep. It was a great ride though. Lots of color......and the Quechee Gorge was awesome! Wish you guys could have been there.

[CaptDanbo]

Well :dontknow: Dont tell me your still out there...:???:

Sorry Mike and Beth, got home and was so tired, I forgot my manners.
Thanks for coming out to DD for donuts & coffee. It's been a while and it's always "great" to see you guys and catch up. Elvie always gets a smile listening to you guys!! :-P

[CaptDanbo]

Mine and Elvie's pics are up on the gallery!

[DuelXer]

I see you found the typical orange lover on your trip.....:lol: :lol:

http://nhvtxriders.com/gallery/albums/ridepics/2009/oct_04_2009_fall_foliage_ride/dan_elvie_pics/normal_IMG_2394.jpg

[CaptDanbo]

Ken, she was crazy about it. Came outside and started talking with us and mentioned that the orange bike was the reason she came out. Then she said something about how "boring" black was. Poor Doc!!

[Doc Rick]

Ken, she was crazy about it. Came outside and started talking with us and mentioned that the orange bike was the reason she came out. Then she said something about how "boring" black was. Poor Doc!!
This is Dan's cousin. And the pics are all posed and a setup.:roll::(:shock::mad::yikes:

[CaptDanbo]

This is Dan's cousin. And the pics are all posed and a setup.:roll::(:shock::mad::yikes:
Nice try Doc.....but Elvie is a witness!! :mrgreen:

[Doc Rick]

From my house to my house, total miles over 350. Stock seat, what can I say. Felt like I drove from San Fransico to Provincetown and back with a few stops at some correctional facilities. :yikes:.
But seriously, the ride went smooth, we were cruising in the dark down 114 and then Dan and I parted ways. 2 miles later, I'm at a dead stop on the 293 bridge because of an accident on the middle of the Bridge. I'm 1/4 mile from Brown ave and it takes me another 20 minutes.
It was a good ride, rt 100 was good, I liked rt 4, too. Small world, at the Quechee gorge, I run into an old college friend from 20 years ago. Lunch was at Pittsfield, VT.
Oh, last and not least, Dan pulled a Steve. A little STEVE, but a STEVE none the less. And at the Quechee gorge while pushing his bike backwards up a slight hill, Dan's foot stepped on a rock and slipped and almost pulled an ENGLISH.

[Doc Rick]

Nice try Doc.....but Elvie is a witness!! :mrgreen:
Wives , as witnesses, are not admissible.

[CaptDanbo]

From my house to my house, total miles over 350. Stock seat, what can I say. Felt like I drove from San Fransico to Provincetown and back with a few stops at some correctional facilities. :yikes:.
But seriously, the ride went smooth, we were cruising in the dark down 114 and then Dan and I parted ways. 2 miles later, I'm at a dead stop on the 293 bridge because of an accident on the middle of the Bridge. I'm 1/4 mile from Brown ave and it takes me another 20 minutes.
It was a good ride, rt 100 was good, I liked rt 4, too. Small world, at the Quechee gorge, I run into an old college friend from 20 years ago. Lunch was at Pittsfield, VT.
Oh, last and not least, Dan pulled a Steve. A little STEVE, but a STEVE none the less. And at the Quechee gorge while pushing his bike backwards up a slight hill, Dan's foot stepped on a rock and slipped and almost pulled an ENGLISH.
Geez......I thought owning the Steve maneuver was enough......you had to throw that "near English" maneuver as well. Thanks Doc!! :roll:

[English]

....nice...nearly pulled an english:thumbup:

From my house to my house, total miles over 350. Stock seat, what can I say. Felt like I drove from San Fransico to Provincetown and back with a few stops at some correctional facilities. :yikes:.
But seriously, the ride went smooth, we were cruising in the dark down 114 and then Dan and I parted ways. 2 miles later, I'm at a dead stop on the 293 bridge because of an accident on the middle of the Bridge. I'm 1/4 mile from Brown ave and it takes me another 20 minutes.
It was a good ride, rt 100 was good, I liked rt 4, too. Small world, at the Quechee gorge, I run into an old college friend from 20 years ago. Lunch was at Pittsfield, VT.
Oh, last and not least, Dan pulled a Steve. A little STEVE, but a STEVE none the less. And at the Quechee gorge while pushing his bike backwards up a slight hill, Dan's foot stepped on a rock and slipped and almost pulled an ENGLISH.

[CaptDanbo]

....nice...nearly pulled an english:thumbup:
Nice to have a maneuver named after you isn't it rich? :thumbup: