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c5vetteman
02-23-2004, 11:58 PM
And to inform those who are too young to remember.



KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

Horseshoer
02-24-2004, 12:19 AM
Bob, thanks for the reminder of good ole Hanoi Jane. I was in Viet Nam in 1968 and I do remember her very well. I swore that when I got out of the Marines that I would never stand in another line again. But, I will definately be in the line to piss on Jane Fonda's grave when they bury her.

Dennis

c5vetteman
02-24-2004, 12:58 AM
You and thousands of others. They will have to put rocks in her coffen to keep it from floating away!

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Horseshoer
02-24-2004, 01:02 AM
LMAO! Is that Jerry practicing??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

c5vetteman
02-24-2004, 01:07 AM
I'm sure that Jerry wouldn't mind having his image used for such a good cause. Or would he??


Bob

Pi
02-24-2004, 02:51 AM
Being born in 1968 and not being taught anything in school about the Vietnam War, I have minimal knowledge of these events. Do they teach history now on Vietnam? I'll ask my kids. :oops:

ThreeD
02-24-2004, 09:11 AM
Being born in 1968 and not being taught anything in school about the Vietnam War, I have minimal knowledge of these events. Do they teach history now on Vietnam? I'll ask my kids. :oops:

The history taught in public schools is going to be pretty white-washed. Your best bet is to look into some books on the subject. If you want a quick and easy start on the subject, try renting "The Hanoi Hilton", while not entirely historically accurate, it's a glimpse into what American POWs went through. There is a Jane Fonda-like activist in the movie.

BlackJack21
02-24-2004, 10:48 AM
Ditto Big Bob and Dennis, never went to Nam closest I got was Clarke Air Base PI, But I do remember some of the things that are boys went through...........Warden

manwhorides
02-24-2004, 12:12 PM
My biggest recollection of that war was when I was I think 8yo, being on the farm just Grandma and I when the dark goverment car came slowly up the long drive way to inform us that my Uncle Harvey had been killed in Nam. I'll join that "pee party run" when the time comes.

Hey Bob,

Would you mind if I copy and paste what you wrote for the general VTXOA board, or would you like too?

Brad

c5vetteman
02-24-2004, 02:19 PM
Brad

It's free to use. I did not write it. My 83 year old father sent it to me. (He did not write it eather) I just hope he can still pee when it is needed.

Bob

bj
02-25-2004, 02:03 PM
Unfortunately, I remember well alot of her doings while in Vietnam. I have avoided her movies, and still do not think well of her. I have let my children know because they were too young at the time. Since I do not have the equipment for peeing on her grave, you will all have to do it for me. Anita

c5vetteman
02-25-2004, 04:15 PM
I'll just have a couple extra beers to be sure I can do the job for both of us. My pleasure

Bob