Loop Biker Brag again

[Chicago-Spike]

I am not eligable for this one so let's get another VTX in on this year. Some minor rules changes over last year, but someone put their bike on. 8)
http://www.wlup.com/biker_brag/index.aspx

[Lace]

Come on Pete. Your up!!!!!

lace

[stagecombat]

Go for it Pete.

[XHellcat]

What about the Acro-project bike? Mike what's the status, man?

[bluto]

What about the Acro-project bike? Mike what's the status, man?

Should be on the way to the painter by now (if it's not already there).

I think the AcroPhat debut will be at the Homecoming. Just another reason to goto Ohio :D

[Smoken'JOE]

PETE-PETE-PETE :!:

He's the man.

Go for it Pistol Pete

[pistol]

I signed up tonite for the Loop contest but it probably won't show up on the page for voting until tomorrow. I will post the link when it is available. I need to start campaigning for some votes.

If I win, I will throw a party at Doyle's. :beer3: :pepper1: :eat2: :beer2:

Maybe that will get a few votes.

Pete

http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/4017/3534DSC04970resize2.jpg

[XHellcat]

Pete- your bike looks badass! :twisted: ! I love the color and that rear fender setup is really sharp (literally)! Post that link so we can start voting for you!

[JimmyMac]

Spike,

Are you not eligible because you won last year? If so, belated congrats.
:beer3:

And Pete, you'll certainly have my vote...

[pistol]

Thanks guys! Here's the link and the first place guy has over 14,000 votes so i guess I have some catching up to do... :? :shock:

Here's the link: http://www.wlup.com/biker_brag/View.aspx?ID=4715&R=10

Remember, the drinks are on me if I win! :beer3:

Thanks again.

[Roadblock]

make sure to add that link to your signature so we can find it easily

[Acrotech]

WTF??? Spike must have broke the bank last year, I see it is worth a wooping $1000.00 this year. Wasnt it $5000 last year Spike?

[Chicago-Spike]

Yeah, a $5k shopping spree at WindWalkers Custom Cycles. This is cash it sounds like. 8)

[MikeWerk]

I see the Loop still has some control problems. The #1 guy has 14,000+ votes since 6/2? Thats more than 750 votes per day. Seems fishy to me.

[Smoken'JOE]

Pete, put this up on the Wi, In, boards also.

Think I just voted 3 times in a row?????????????????

[Roadblock]

http://www.wlup.com/biker_brag/View.aspx?ID=4715&R=10

Just FYI ... clicking on the above link is an automated vote of a 10 (out of 10) for Pete's bike

Clicking on the below link is a vote of a 1 for the stock Indian that is currently in first place with a 9.4 and 14800 votes in less than 3 weeks

http://www.wlup.com/biker_brag/View.aspx?ID=4617&R=1

I mean come on ... a stock Indian ... not a bad bike but ...

[JimmyMac]

Pete,

You're tied for first... :wink:

[Verrice]

Pistol - 9.9
*cough* perfection - 9.3

go Pete! :D

[bluto]

If I win, I will throw a party at Doyle's. :beer3: :pepper1: :eat2: :beer2:



:shock: That's 250 Jaegerbombs! :pepper1: :D

[Acrotech]

If I win, I will throw a party at Doyle's. :beer3: :pepper1: :eat2: :beer2:



:shock: That's 250 Jaegerbombs! :pepper1: :D

LOL...figures you would know the math :lol:

[pistol]

I was thinking 1000 Retro beers. :beer2:

[Smoken'JOE]

I was thinking 1000 Retro beers. :beer2:

:lol: :lol: RETRO=.05 cent beers :lol: :lol:

[Squiggles]

Count me in.......voted, voted, and voted again!!

[Verrice]

How could it drop to 7.5 in just a couple hours??

I smells a filthy rat :evil:

Tried voting multiple times but it won't work for me.

[pistol]

The Indian picked up about 3000 votes this afternoon. I think its rigged.

[bluto]

:evil: Only lets me vote once as well........

[DRFLGD]

I would put the link on the national board for everyone to vote on it.

[Roadblock]

There is definitely something unusual going on with the bike that is winning. There are bikes that have been on the brag for a week longer than the indian and have aroun 3K votes. This chump has 18K and Pete's votes went from around 800 to almost 2K in a couple hours once he took over first place and his average dropped almost 2 full points. It appears from the very cursory testing I just did that it adds an expiring temporary cookie to your browser. If you delete the cookies from your browser you can vote again. It would be very simple to write a script that submits the voting link the deletes all temp internet files, then submits the link again in repitition ... not that I would advocate such a thing ... maybe that is how the current leader has 18K votes when everyone else has 2-3K.

[Verrice]

You could, in fact just deny the cookie, and that would allow you to keep voting without requiring you to delete it after each action. My guess is that's what our Indian friend is doing... hopefully someone at the loop will recognize that and disqualify them.

[pistol]

I need some help in the final hours of the July Biker Brag Contest. According to the rules, they close the voting at 4pm Wednesday 7/27. This Harley guy is accumulating votes faster than I can with 3 computers going. :badabing: Anyway, I could use your votes if you have time.

I am not advocating voting more than once, but if you wanted to, you need to block the Loop website from using cookies.

You go to Tools, Internet Options..., Select "Privacy" Tab, at the bottom, select "Edit" (Web Sites), type in wlup.com and select "Block". This will allow you to vote more than once repeatedly.

Again, this is just in case you were wondering how to.

The Harley went up about 10K votes over night.

See you in Marysville. Beers on me if I win. :beer3: :beer2: :pepper1:

Thanks for all the help.

Pete

[Ta2dJim]

Pete...voted often, 10's of course (the Chicago way!!!) Also sent you a PM.

Jim

[Squiggles]

Pete,

I've been a busy girl this evening. All packed and ready to go and had some extra time on my hands. Good Luck!!

Karin

I VOATED ONCE FROM WORK AND FROM HOME . I WILL TRY THE OTHER COMP AT WORK TO SEE IF IT WILL ELT ME VOTE FROM THERE LAST YEAR FOR SPIKE I WAS ABLE TO VOTE 32 TIMES BETWEEN ALL THE COMP I HAD THE TIME TO VOTE ON / GOOD LUCK AND I WILL KEEP IT UP
GREG 8)

[Verrice]

Just tried to go do some voting and the thing seems to be broken... something about requested data being invalid for any one of them that I chose.

[bluto]

Hey! What happened? Your bike is gone. The top rated one is only a 6.2?!?

[Verrice]

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Bluto's right! I just looked through the whole thing and it's gone!

:!: :!:

Man, the Loop can't run a contest at all...

[Verrice]

I just emailed: ajcox@wlup.com

They Prizes / Contests guy at the Loop. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt if a whole mess of us started emailing him about Pete's bike going missing, and having to deal with cheating harleys and indians...

[Ta2dJim]

If you look closely at the site, they already declared the July winner and it was not Pistol!!!! I don't see how this is possible when he had a comfortable lead of 7.9 (average) to 7.7 for the next runner up when I voted many times yesterday afternoon. I don't recall seeing the bike that won in the top 5 yesterday afternoon either. Looks like we need a RECOUNT....

[Verrice]

He had a much stronger lead than that... it was like 8.3 to 6.9 this morning before they vanished.

[Boog86]

A Harley Softail won. How long had it been in the competition?

[Verrice]

I think it'd been in all along, unless it was only in during the June one and waited until the last second for July and voted themselves a 10...

This is a really badly run contest... :cry:

[ISKIVT]

Is it possible that WLUP was checking the voting, and noticed the number of votes being tallyed in the last 24 hours with whatere they were coming from and they disqualified a few entrants, ie Pete?

[Verrice]

The only reason I'm thinking that isn't the case is because June's winner was a big time cheater and had thousands of votes an hour.

They should really make peope register, with verified email or something, in order to vote... really cut down on all this confusion and unfair advantages.

[slim shady]

i did'nt want to say it ,but the loop sponsers
mostly HD events. ie the supercycle.dont know if it has anything
to with it. just speculating.

[Stuship]

Either way it is still a crock. I went to the Biker Brunch a few weeks ago and there were about 40 bikes and they all looked like the same HD with different colors. It looked like a HD catalog.

I think that we should "storm the castle" :shock: :twisted: :shock: :twisted: one Sunday and show our displeasure. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: and solidarity to one of our own.

[Verrice]

oh man :roll:

The current leading bike is a old looking, beat down HD... and it's current score (after like 50,000 votes) is 10.8 :!: You can only vote as high as 10 :?:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[MikeWerk]

oh man :roll:

The current leading bike is a old looking, beat down HD... and it's current score (after like 50,000 votes) is 10.8 :!: You can only vote as high as 10 :?:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

methinks someone is doing this.....

http://www.wlup.com/biker_brag/View.aspx?ID=4730&R=11

That would rate an 11 as noted by the value R=11... And it is posting votes at about 10+ per minute.

[Stuship]

We could be mean and throw it REALLY off by voting a 23 or some other odd number that is really high to really skew the results. They may look at the process and re-count knowing that the system could be fooled with.

[Verrice]

methinks someone is doing this.....

http://www.wlup.com/biker_brag/View.aspx?ID=4730&R=11

That would rate an 11 as noted by the value R=11... And it is posting votes at about 10+ per minute.

Ah, great data control! :lol:

I wonder if negative numbers would work too.

[ISKIVT]

I just threw up a couple of 99's for s and g's 8)

[MikeWerk]

I just threw up a couple of 99's for s and g's 8)

LMAO....i just gave it 9,999,999 tried to use 99999999999, but it was too large an integer

[Verrice]

Integer eh? So your range is either 0 - 65,535 or -32,767 - 32,767 for either signed or unsigned integers.

[slim shady]

i had to save that one
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9200/loop12.gif

[pistol]

Hey guys,

I am at the homecoming and haven't been on line since we left on Wednesday. I got a kick out of this thread and the "loop"holes you found in their contest.

I don't know what happened with my bike. The guy that won had only been on a couple days and had about 300 votes on Tuesday night. They stopped the contest early because Ashli noticed the winner was announced early in the afternoon even though it was supposed to run until 4pm.

It was fun while it lasted though - seeing the score run up and the HD fall to the back of the pack. I am sure there will still be an occassion to drink beers at Doyle's.

Pete

[T-BoneX]

Got bored...figured I'd throw her up...only thing that might suck would be to get beat out by a Sporty...hmmm...looks like they edited the post too...oh well...

http://www.wlup.com/biker_brag/View.aspx?ID=4769

[ISKIVT]

Wow, 9.8 8)

How did that happen :roll:

[MikeWerk]

Down to 2.0 now.....what a horse***** contest.

[Stuship]

I just posted a 10 for T-boneX and the rating is sitting at 3.4 now.

[ISKIVT]

I just sent an email to the contest dude at WLUP

Here it is

I have been watching the running of the Biker Brag contest on your website. I must admit that I feel your contests are not being run fairly. Currently the leading vote getter has an average score of 11.9. The highest rating available is a 10. This bike has averaged over 10 since last week.

The June winner received 50000 votes in the last hour of competition. In last months contest you pulled a bike from competition on the last day with no explaination given. It looks to me that you haverules only for some bikes and others can cheat the system wiith no recourse. I will never listen to your radio station again and will go out of my way to avoid purchasing from your advertisers. I will be sending copies of this e-mail to as many of your advertisers as I can. This contest is a crock. But I guess rigged elections are the norm in Chicago.

[mark_1bx]

I just sent an email to the contest dude at WLUP

Here it is

I have been watching the running of the Biker Brag contest on your website. I must admit that I feel your contests are not being run fairly. Currently the leading vote getter has an average score of 11.9. The highest rating available is a 10. This bike has averaged over 10 since last week.

The June winner received 50000 votes in the last hour of competition. In last months contest you pulled a bike from competition on the last day with no explaination given. It looks to me that you haverules only for some bikes and others can cheat the system wiith no recourse. I will never listen to your radio station again and will go out of my way to avoid purchasing from your advertisers. I will be sending copies of this e-mail to as many of your advertisers as I can. This contest is a crock. But I guess rigged elections are the norm in Chicago.


Sounds good to me

[ISKIVT]

This is the response to my e-mail

David,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We suspected that some
manipulation was going on, and we removed the bikes in question.
However, we have noticed that the scope has gone beyond that, and as
such, we are removing the contest. It is not fair to the contestants
that were honest, and this is not how we like to run things. Some
person(s) took a lot of time to hack/rig the contest, and it is coming
down shortly.

Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, and I apologize for any
frustration this may have caused.

Anthony J. DeMoon
Interactive Manager
Q101/Loop
230 Merchandise Mart
Chicago, IL 60654
312.321.6276

[Verrice]

David,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We suspected that some
manipulation was going on, and we removed the bikes in question.
However, we have noticed that the scope has gone beyond that, and as
such, we are removing the contest. It is not fair to the contestants
that were honest, and this is not how we like to run things. Some
person(s) took a lot of time to hack/rig the contest, and it is coming
down shortly.

Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, and I apologize for any
frustration this may have caused.

Anthony J. DeMoon
Interactive Manager
Q101/Loop
230 Merchandise Mart
Chicago, IL 60654
312.321.6276

<rubs eyes> :shock: :shock: wow, nice response and sudden! Good job! :D

I don't think he's right about someone spending a lot of time hacking it though, it didn't take us long to figure out you could vote more than once... though I don't know about that 11.whatever guy...

[Stuship]

I have mixed feelings about this. I am glad that something will be done but, then again cancelling the contest is pretty much a bummer for those that were trying to show off thier bikes.

[Verrice]

I have mixed feelings about this. I am glad that something will be done but, then again cancelling the contest is pretty much a bummer for those that were trying to show off thier bikes.

True... but I'd think it's even more a bummer to lose out to a cheater... IMO

[Stuship]

Ya gotta point there. My vote is still to Storm the Biker Brunch :twisted: :twisted:

[mark_1bx]

This is the response to my e-mail

David,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We suspected that some
manipulation was going on, and we removed the bikes in question.
However, we have noticed that the scope has gone beyond that, and as
such, we are removing the contest. It is not fair to the contestants
that were honest, and this is not how we like to run things. Some
person(s) took a lot of time to hack/rig the contest, and it is coming
down shortly.

Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, and I apologize for any
frustration this may have caused.

Anthony J. DeMoon
Interactive Manager
Q101/Loop
230 Merchandise Mart
Chicago, IL 60654
312.321.6276



Good job. Thanks for making them see the light.
Mark

[Verrice]

So I wonder if they're take back the $1,000.00 from the previous two month's cheaters... :roll:

[willieman]

Way to go, ISKIVT!! You said exactly what I was thinking, only much better than I ever could have!

[T-BoneX]

Yeah...something didn't seem right when I went to the page my bike was on, and everytime I hit refresh, anywhere between 10-50 votes were added every 3 seconds...at 10:30am, I find it hard to believe that there were 10-50 people voting on my bike alone every 3 seconds...

Thanks anyway all! I say if they fix their bugged system, we all throw our bikes up...custom or not...I do want to see an X take top brag...any X!