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    I noticed that the someone had installed ( I'm going to say alligator connector... on the red wire with the yellow stripe) right up next to the ECM, when I looked at it, it was very loose and basically, just spinning on the wire, I pried it open and sure enough..... there was only one strand left on the wire it was connected too, my problem is now.... how can I fix this? I pulled the female connector out of the plug that goes onto the ECM, hoping I could solder or crimp another piece of wire onto it..... but its not in any shape to try to reuse, as the part on top broke off when it came out of the plug.... I thought possibly soldering a wire directly to the male pin on the ECM, then sliding the plug back onto the ECM with the new wire going through the space where the old pin was..... but not really keen on that idea ...... any suggestions, or where can I get a new female pin that would work in the plug for the ECM?????
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    I have the same problem and asked for help a couple of weeks ago and got no solutions. I will tell you if you solder it with a large clump of metal it will negativatly affect the way the bike runs. Let me know if you find out how the replace the tips at the end of the wire for a new clean insertion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme View Post
    I have the same problem and asked for help a couple of weeks ago and got no solutions. I will tell you if you solder it with a large clump of metal it will negativatly affect the way the bike runs. Let me know if you find out how the replace the tips at the end of the wire for a new clean insertion.
    will let you know if I come up with a solution...... there's a place in town called circuit specialists, that I'm going to check and see if they have the correct female pin...if not..... I'm going to go to the salvage yard and give them a few bucks to let me cut off one of the plugs for the ECM. and take one of the wires with the female pin on it, and install it in place of this one. they come out by taking the rubber seals off and inserting something like a small needle into the front and pushing down the tab that holds them into the gray plastic plug, and pushing the female pin, out the back of the plug
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    pick up a new connector from someone parting out a bike or a junkyard and put a new pin in with a longer pigtail to connect the broken wire?

    or you might even be able to swap out the whole connector (but that would require a lot more cutting and soldering!)
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    Pictures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzAce View Post
    will let you know if I come up with a solution...... there's a place in town called circuit specialists, that I'm going to check and see if they have the correct female pin...if not..... I'm going to go to the salvage yard and give them a few bucks to let me cut off one of the plugs for the ECM. and take one of the wires with the female pin on it, and install it in place of this one. they come out by taking the rubber seals off and inserting something like a small needle into the front and pushing down the tab that holds them into the gray plastic plug, and pushing the female pin, out the back of the plug
    Look into the connector. There are some empty female pins that are not used and not connected to a wire. Remove one of them using a very tiny screwdriver to push the tab down. Connect this pin to the wire and put it into the right place.
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    good call!
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    According to Biglry, you can get replacement ECU pins through Honda dealers. Car dealers, not MC dealers. The autos use the same pins connectors.

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    If it is what I am thinking of, there is a special tool for removing those pins. It makes the job easier with no damage. I have bought pins at Radio Shack but had to buy a whole plug to get the pins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastspek View Post
    Look into the connector. There are some empty female pins that are not used and not connected to a wire. Remove one of them using a very tiny screwdriver to push the tab down. Connect this pin to the wire and put it into the right place.
    I looked into all the unused slots ( at least I thought I did ) didn't find any pins in them.... that was the first thing I did.....

    Quote Originally Posted by skier-24 View Post
    If it is what I am thinking of, there is a special tool for removing those pins. It makes the job easier with no damage. I have bought pins at Radio Shack but had to buy a whole plug to get the pins.
    went to 4 different Radio Shacks, hoping to do just that..... the Radio Shacks now days are nothing like they used to be back in the 70's where they carried everything you could possibly ever need, electronics wise. now days it's more like walking into the electronics dept at K-Mart!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gEEz View Post
    According to Biglry, you can get replacement ECU pins through Honda dealers. Car dealers, not MC dealers. The autos use the same pins connectors.
    I'll have to look into that..... not sure how much luck I'll have with the Honda dealers around here though..... I'm sure the Ride Now dealers would be more then willing to tell and sell me a whole wiring harness... lol
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    the Radio Shacks now days are nothing like they used to be back in the 70's where they carried everything you could possibly ever need

    They should change their name to "Cell Phone Shack". I have had better luck finding components at TV repair shops. There is one here called ABEC. Their business is booming again thanks to LCD TV's. TV repair shops might carry those pins also. I have seen them inside of my projection tv's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skier-24 View Post
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    the Radio Shacks now days are nothing like they used to be back in the 70's where they carried everything you could possibly ever need

    They should change their name to "Cell Phone Shack". I have had better luck finding components at TV repair shops. There is one here called ABEC. Their business is booming again thanks to LCD TV's. TV repair shops might carry those pins also. I have seen them inside of my projection tv's.
    I am sorry that my advice was to good to be true. To be honest: I didn't look in the connector myself. Tell us when you have found the solution since I probably will need it too in the future. For the moment I managed to reconnect the very short wire by soldering after it was cut by the aligator connector used to connect my PCIII.
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    well I stopped at the Ride Now Powersports dealer and as expected...... he did offer to sell me a whole wiring harness for the bike ( no joke )
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    go to bareasschoppers.com, look under his handy vtx tools. he has listed a connectors box. it should have some of those connectors in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danater View Post
    go to bareasschoppers.com, look under his handy vtx tools. he has listed a connectors box. it should have some of those connectors in it.
    it's close to $100 for that box of connectors it says.... but thanks
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    if anyone has a totaled or trashed bike and could possibly cut off this plug, with the wires as long as possible .... and send it to me for a few $$$$$, it would be greatly appreciated!! or possibly.. remove 1 of the female pins with a length of wire attached ( I don't care which wire )......
    you might notice that the red/yellow striped wire is gone on this one.... the guy that installed the PC3, used a alligator clip, up close to the plug and it cut through the wire, I took the female pin out of the plug to install a new wire, but the top of the pin broke off, so the pin is no longer good.....

    this is momma's bike and she is getting tough to live with when she doesn't get her minimum weekly allowance of bike riding ....PLEASE HELP!!!!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by AzAce View Post
    well I stopped at the Ride Now Powersports dealer and as expected...... he did offer to sell me a whole wiring harness for the bike ( no joke )
    I believe the advice above was to go to a Honda car dealer. Have you tried that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbatim View Post
    I believe the advice above was to go to a Honda car dealer. Have you tried that?
    I guess I missed the "car dealer" part, when I saw Honda........ oops
    Last edited by AzAce; 08-24-2009 at 08:30 PM.
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    Please let us know if the Honda car dealers carry them. I now have the same problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzAce View Post
    I guess I missed the "car dealer" part, when I saw Honda........ oops
    If you still can't find replacement pins at the Honda Car dealer, shoot Biglry an email. I'm sure he can fix you up. biglry@charter.net

    Update: I just talked to him. He has the ECU connectors if still needed.
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    thanks gEEz.....
    just sent biglry an E-mail

    Quote Originally Posted by gEEz View Post
    If you still can't find replacement pins at the Honda Car dealer, shoot Biglry an email. I'm sure he can fix you up. biglry@charter.net

    Update: I just talked to him. He has the ECU connectors if still needed.
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