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    Default Did Honda actually discontinue the 1800 for 2010?

    You know, Honda has done things over the years that's made me say "what the hell?", but this takes the cake.

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    Uhm...actually, the 1800 was discontinued in 2008. What you see in the stealers now are the leftovers that still haven't sold. Sorry.
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    you are hereby certified to be eligible for this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgee View Post
    Good morning where have you been?

    I've been buried in the M109R site as that's what I ended up buying, but someone in that site asked a question about the VTX and someone mentioned that it had been discontinued. I was shocked to say the least. I'm just curious why Honda decided to discontinue it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    I've been buried in the M109R site as that's what I ended up buying, but someone in that site asked a question about the VTX and someone mentioned that it had been discontinued. I was shocked to say the least. I'm just curious why Honda decided to discontinue it.
    M109R is a nice bike too,

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    Default hey grampi

    which model did you buy and what are youre thoughts on the bike
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    The 1800 has been gone for 2 years now and actually hasn't been down the line in almost 4 years. The 1300 last year is 2009, no more VTX at all in any engine size

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasmike View Post
    which model did you buy and what are youre thoughts on the bike
    Suzuki M109R, and I love it! It's balzy as he11, it handles nice, and it always gets the most attention when parked among other bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago-Spike View Post
    The 1800 has been gone for 2 years now and actually hasn't been down the line in almost 4 years. The 1300 last year is 2009, no more VTX at all in any engine size
    That's sad. The 1800 was a real nice bike! I still wouldn't mind having one.

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    There are plenty of them still available as new old stock. That is most likely one of the reasons there are no 2008, 2009, or 2010 models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    You know, Honda has done things over the years that's made me say "what the hell?", but this takes the cake.
    the 1800 hasn't been in production for years.

    And please, check the other 52,000 threads on this topic. . .

    The 1800 is gone. The 1300 is gone. Replaced by what Honda feels is appropriate.

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    VTX is gone. Forever. Fini. Hasta Lasanga.

    Those are just some recent threads on the same topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    You know, Honda has done things over the years that's made me say "what the hell?", but this takes the cake.

    Well the answer is Yes AND No !!!!!

    Yes they discontinued the 1800cc VTX.

    No they did not discontinue the 1800cc Gold Wing !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by j1mmyj4m View Post
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    You need a pause in there I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KD3NE View Post

    No they did not discontinue the 1800cc Gold Wing !!!!

    Well, yes and no on that one, too. There won't be a 2011 Gold Wing. Supposed to return in 2012. No word on if it'll be the same bike, tho.

    Look at how they screwed the 1300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wren View Post
    Well, yes and no on that one, too. There won't be a 2011 Gold Wing. Supposed to return in 2012. No word on if it'll be the same bike, tho.

    Look at how they screwed the 1300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone View Post
    Some say "screwed" while I find myself leaning more towards "improved." Everything being relative, it's the Market Place that will have the final say in this, as in all things commercial. Stay tuned....
    The Market Place has to choose between whatever is available. What is available depends on return per unit sold.

    Think about it some. Honda killed the 1100 Shadow, a very popular bike. I think the 1100 crowd is as devoted to their bikes as most of us are to our X's, but, its gone. Had to sell all them X's sitting in crates. Initially, the X had a higher per unit return. Unfortunately, Honda went on overkill in production of the X trying to get that return per unit. The 1800 X production went way beyond common sense. Honda was caught completely off guard when the 1300 became as popular as it did, but they still over-produced.

    Interestingly, a number of former 1100 riders that went to the X have commented that if they could get a new 1100 they'd do so in a heartbeat.

    The Valk had a solid following. It was killed so the Rune could step in. Much higher return per unit. That was a weekend warrior's dream and a rider's joke. Also had a very short run. Seems the weekend warriors just generally didn't wanna spend that much cash. And the Rune had a very limited use.

    In talking with other bikers I generally hear more of wishing a Valk was available than I hear about Runes. Honda also didn't like the effect the Valk had on the Gold Wing market, that really high return per unit machine.

    Regardless of the Valk loyalty, tho, the machine is dead.

    Now comes the Fury line with its various siblings. Honda finally took note of what happens when you flood a market and you'll notice there aren't as many Fury critters sitting in showrooms as their were X's when they came out. The higher priced Fury line has a great return per unit and Honda wants to keep it that way so production is much more controlled this time.

    The Fury line-up was the death knell for the X. The Fury line has a lot of things a small group of X riders said they want. I say small because not everyone wanted a fat tire kit, or an extended front end, or fancy curvy pipes. Essentially, a weekend warrior's dream once again. Niche market, controlled production, higher return per unit.

    The new line isn't going to see the miles travelled that the X or the Valk does. These bikes aren't designed for it. High mileage riders are left with the Wing. Once again, high return per unit. Except not all of us care for the Wing. Controlled market again, also. And with the planned 2011 hiatus for the Wing, I'm kinda wondering what the 2012 Wing is gonna be and what its market and production plan are.

    So my opinion is the market isn't the deciding factor on the new models. Higher return per unit is.

    It seems that Honda would rather lose market share to other brands as long as the higher return rolls in.

    Just for the record, this isn't the way Soichiro Honda conducted business or envisioned his company. This is the new corporate environment. Something that should be noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    I've been buried in the M109R site as that's what I ended up buying, but someone in that site asked a question about the VTX and someone mentioned that it had been discontinued. I was shocked to say the least. I'm just curious why Honda decided to discontinue it.
    I guess when you got the M109R it was the straw that broke the camels back.
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    If you look at the overall picture, what Honda has done is limit your choice of a cruiser and increased the price.The 250, the 750 or the new 1300's , thats it. Gone is the VLX 600 and all the 1100's.I agree with wren they wanted a bigger return per unit vs more units sold.
    I also agree that I dont believe this is what Mr Honda had in mind.

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    From what I've heard from the dealers in Wisconsin, they only stopped the 1800 production due to the high volume of left overs. When the Goldwing was having frame issues they halted production on those and started firing out the VTX's. That is why there are so many left overs. But the big question is when or if they will continue making the 1800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 05NeoBlue View Post
    . But the big question is when or if they will continue making the 1800.
    Never, it's done and gone. The plant in Ohio that made the VTX is done and gone.
    It will be continued after they start making the Valkyrie again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago-Spike View Post
    It will be continued after they start making the Valkyrie again
    Along with the CBX, and the CB350.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago-Spike View Post
    It will be continued after they start making the Valkyrie again
    Quote Originally Posted by Bassdude404 View Post
    Along with the CBX, and the CB350.....
    You guys are gonna have to wait. I heard from Honda that they will be producing the GL650 first, and then later on the Valkyrie, CBX, CB350, Honda Dream 305.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    I've been buried in the M109R site as that's what I ended up buying, but someone in that site asked a question about the VTX and someone mentioned that it had been discontinued. I was shocked to say the least. I'm just curious why Honda decided to discontinue it.
    Quote Originally Posted by PITVTX View Post
    I guess when you got the M109R it was the straw that broke the camels back.
    Yeah they abandoned it because riders abandoned it for the M109 !!!
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    Don;t forget about Honda stepping the production back up on the Blackbird, that will come before the VTX too

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    The VTX is gone and will most likely never return, thats the cold hard facts. That is the main reason I purchased mine now and if your in the market for one now is the time to buy. The reason Honda discontinued production on the VTX 1800 is what has been stated already, low sales and high inventory, in other words the bottom line $$$$$. One reason sales were so low for the 1800 is the same reason I was able to buy mine at such a ridiculously low price. The guy told me that it was just too much bike for him and he went with the 1300 and was very happy with it. The other reason IMHO was that once bought, the 1300 or 1800 most buyers don't see any reason to trade, when you got what you like why settle for something less. The Fury is Honda's bike for now and there is nothing that can be done to change that, so either go with the flow or keep what you got. I love mine and can't see me riding anything else for some time to come.


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    Does Honda really think the new 1300 line is going to sell better than the X, though? Somehow, I see this new line lasting about as long as the VTX line did, until Corporate comes up with another hairbrained idea.
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