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    Unhappy Mothers, don't dress your little girls like tramps.

    Good advice:


    Parents, don't dress your girls like tramps

    By LZ Granderson, CNN Contributor
    April 19, 2011 8:52 a.m. EDT





    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    • LZ Granderson: Some parents dress their young girls in provocative outfits
    • Retailers have encouraged this behavior by marketing inappropriate clothing
    • He says it's OK to blame retailers, but it's parents who are ultimately responsible
    • Children need parents who will set rules, not be their friends, he says

    Editor's note: LZ Granderson writes a weekly column for CNN.com. A senior writer and columnist for ESPN The Magazine and ESPN.com, he has contributed to ESPN's "Sports Center," "Outside the Lines" and "First Take." He is a 2011 and 2010 nominee and the 2009 winner of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation award for online journalism and a 2010 and 2008 honoree of the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association for column writing.
    Grand Rapids, Michigan (CNN) -- I saw someone at the airport the other day who really caught my eye.
    Her beautiful, long blond hair was braided back a la Bo Derek in the movie "10" (or for the younger set, Christina Aguilera during her "Xtina" phase). Her lips were pink and shiny from the gloss, and her earrings dangled playfully from her lobes.
    You can tell she had been vacationing somewhere warm, because you could see her deep tan around her midriff thanks to the halter top and the tight sweatpants that rested just a little low on her waist. The icing on the cake? The word "Juicy" was written on her backside.
    Yeah, that 8-year-old girl was something to see alright. ... I hope her parents are proud. Their daughter was the sexiest girl in the terminal, and she's not even in middle school yet.
    Abercrombie & Fitch came under fire this spring for introducing the "Ashley," a push-up bra for girls who normally are too young to have anything to push up. Originally it was marketed for girls as young as 7, but after public outcry, it raised its intended audience to the wise old age of 12. I wonder how do people initiate a conversation in the office about the undeveloped chest of elementary school girls without someone nearby thinking they're pedophiles?
    Push-up bikini controversy
    What kind of PowerPoint presentation was shown to the Abercrombie executives that persuaded them to green light such a product?
    That there was a demand to make little girls hot?




    How young is too young to be sexy?




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    I mean, that is the purpose of a push-up bra, right? To enhance sex appeal by lifting up, pushing together and basically showcasing the wearer's breasts. Now, thanks to AF Kids, girls don't have to wait until high school to feel self-conscious about their, uhm, girls. They can start almost as soon as they're potty trained. Maybe this fall the retailer should consider keeping a plastic surgeon on site for free consultations.
    We've been here with Abercrombie before -- if you recall, about 10 years ago they sold thongs for 10-year-olds -- but they're hardly alone in pitching inappropriate clothing to young girls. Four years ago the popular "Bratz" franchise introduced padded bras called "bralettes" for girls as young as six. That was also around the time the good folks at Wal-Mart rolled out a pair of pink panties in its junior department with the phrase "Who Needs Credit Cards" printed on the front.
    I guess I've been out-of-the-loop and didn't realize there's been an ongoing stampede of 10-year-old girls driving to the mall with their tiny fists full of cash demanding sexier apparel.
    What's that you say? Ten-year-olds can't drive? They don't have money, either? Well, how else are they getting ahold of these push-up bras and whore-friendly panties?
    Their parents?
    Noooo, couldn't be.
    What adult who wants a daughter to grow up with high self-esteem would even consider purchasing such items? What parent is looking at their sweet, little girl thinking, "She would be perfect if she just had a little bit more up top."
    And then I remember the little girl at the airport. And the girls we've all seen at the mall. And the kiddie beauty pageants.
    And then I realize as creepy as it is to think a store like Abercrombie is offering something like the "Ashley", the fact remains that sex only sells because people are buying it. No successful retailer would consider introducing an item like a padded bikini top for kindergarteners if they didn't think people would buy it.
    If they didn't think parents would buy it, which begs the question: What in the hell is wrong with us?
    It's easy to blast companies for introducing the sexy wear, but our ire really should be directed at the parents who think low rise jeans for a second grader is cute. They are the ones who are spending the money to fuel this budding trend. They are the ones who are suppose to decide what's appropriate for their young children to wear, not executives looking to brew up controversy or turn a profit.
    I get it, Rihanna's really popular. But that's a pretty weak reason for someone to dress their little girl like her.
    I don't care how popular Lil' Wayne is, my son knows I would break both of his legs long before I would allow him to walk out of the house with his pants falling off his butt. Such a stance doesn't always makes me popular -- and the house does get tense from time to time -- but I'm his father, not his friend.
    Friends bow to peer pressure. Parents say, "No, and that's the end of it."
    The way I see it, my son can go to therapy later if my strict rules have scarred him. But I have peace knowing he'll be able to afford therapy as an adult because I didn't allow him to wear or do whatever he wanted as a kid.
    Maybe I'm a Tiger Dad.
    Maybe I should mind my own business.
    Or maybe I'm just a concerned parent worried about little girls like the one I saw at the airport.
    In 2007, the American Psychological Association's Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls issued a report linking early sexualization with three of the most common mental-health problems of girls and women: eating disorders, low self-esteem and depression. There's nothing inherently wrong with parents wanting to appease their daughters by buying them the latest fashions. But is getting cool points today worth the harm dressing little girls like prostitutes could cause tomorrow?
    A line needs to be drawn, but not by Abercrombie. Not by Britney Spears. And not by these little girls who don't know better and desperately need their parents to be parents and not 40-year-old BFFs.
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    I remember when I was in high school working as a cashier at a local grocery store, I saw a little girl who couldn't be no more than 6 with a halter top...miniskirt...little white patent leather shoes and a purse to match. The little girl looked like she was ready for the track. Horrible sight!
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    I agree, an excellent column.

    Ask the mother of a child dressed like that and she'll probably respond " oh she's just expressing herself. "
    My daughter had some friends over and my wife sent two of them home for dressing inappropriately in our house.
    The above comment was made by the mother of one of those two girls.

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    I agree with the OP. One only has to watch on TV the toddler beauty pageants to wonder what were these parents thinking.

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    I agree!!!! My middle daughter just turned 18 yesterday!! And she doesn't even dress like that. she has just recently purchased a few items that are ok for her to wear at 18 but wasn't allowed to wear a couple years ago.
    There is just no need to dress trashy at such a young age!!
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    Agreed... look at Jon Benet Ramsey. Well, you can't now.
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    My wife has six brothers (well, two are dead now) and she is the only girl. She wanted a little girl (and I would have liked one too) but we had three boys. In retrospect, it is for the best, because my daughter would have hated me. There is no way she would leave the house dressed like some of the young "ladies" I see today...and she wouldn't have dated until she was 30.

    Not too long ago my wife and I were in the mall, and there were some young girls walking in front of us...probably high school girls, if that. One girl had on a skirt that was so short her butt cheeks were visible and she was standing up! I really don't think she had any underwear on, either. Pure trashy looking.

    I guess some of the young men think they have to make up for it, with their pants down to their knees showing their boxers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzX View Post
    My wife has six brothers (well, two are dead now) and she is the only girl. She wanted a little girl (and I would have liked one too) but we had three boys. In retrospect, it is for the best, because my daughter would have hated me. There is no way she would leave the house dressed like some of the young "ladies" I see today...and she wouldn't have dated until she was 30.

    Not too long ago my wife and I were in the mall, and there were some young girls walking in front of us...probably high school girls, if that. One girl had on a skirt that was so short her butt cheeks were visible and she was standing up! I really don't think she had any underwear on, either. Pure trashy looking.

    I guess some of the young men think they have to make up for it, with their pants down to their knees showing their boxers.
    My wife works in a high school and even she doesn't know how those kids hold there pants up.
    I can tell you one thing though.Its not the good students or kids who play sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by budley3 View Post
    My wife works in a high school and even she doesn't know how those kids hold there pants up.
    I can tell you one thing though.Its not the good students or kids who play sports.

    I believe that is struth. Problem is the good kids are falling to the minority, JIMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe T View Post
    Good advice:


    Parents, don't dress your girls like tramps

    By LZ Granderson, CNN Contributor
    April 19, 2011 8:52 a.m. EDT





    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    • LZ Granderson: Some parents dress their young girls in provocative outfits
    • Retailers have encouraged this behavior by marketing inappropriate clothing
    • He says it's OK to blame retailers, but it's parents who are ultimately responsible
    • Children need parents who will set rules, not be their friends, he says

    Editor's note: LZ Granderson writes a weekly column for CNN.com. A senior writer and columnist for ESPN The Magazine and ESPN.com, he has contributed to ESPN's "Sports Center," "Outside the Lines" and "First Take." He is a 2011 and 2010 nominee and the 2009 winner of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation award for online journalism and a 2010 and 2008 honoree of the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association for column writing.
    Grand Rapids, Michigan (CNN) -- I saw someone at the airport the other day who really caught my eye.
    Her beautiful, long blond hair was braided back a la Bo Derek in the movie "10" (or for the younger set, Christina Aguilera during her "Xtina" phase). Her lips were pink and shiny from the gloss, and her earrings dangled playfully from her lobes.
    You can tell she had been vacationing somewhere warm, because you could see her deep tan around her midriff thanks to the halter top and the tight sweatpants that rested just a little low on her waist. The icing on the cake? The word "Juicy" was written on her backside.
    Yeah, that 8-year-old girl was something to see alright. ... I hope her parents are proud. Their daughter was the sexiest girl in the terminal, and she's not even in middle school yet.
    Abercrombie & Fitch came under fire this spring for introducing the "Ashley," a push-up bra for girls who normally are too young to have anything to push up. Originally it was marketed for girls as young as 7, but after public outcry, it raised its intended audience to the wise old age of 12. I wonder how do people initiate a conversation in the office about the undeveloped chest of elementary school girls without someone nearby thinking they're pedophiles?
    Push-up bikini controversy
    What kind of PowerPoint presentation was shown to the Abercrombie executives that persuaded them to green light such a product?
    That there was a demand to make little girls hot?




    How young is too young to be sexy?




    Push-up bikini controversy


    RELATED TOPICS

    I mean, that is the purpose of a push-up bra, right? To enhance sex appeal by lifting up, pushing together and basically showcasing the wearer's breasts. Now, thanks to AF Kids, girls don't have to wait until high school to feel self-conscious about their, uhm, girls. They can start almost as soon as they're potty trained. Maybe this fall the retailer should consider keeping a plastic surgeon on site for free consultations.
    We've been here with Abercrombie before -- if you recall, about 10 years ago they sold thongs for 10-year-olds -- but they're hardly alone in pitching inappropriate clothing to young girls. Four years ago the popular "Bratz" franchise introduced padded bras called "bralettes" for girls as young as six. That was also around the time the good folks at Wal-Mart rolled out a pair of pink panties in its junior department with the phrase "Who Needs Credit Cards" printed on the front.
    I guess I've been out-of-the-loop and didn't realize there's been an ongoing stampede of 10-year-old girls driving to the mall with their tiny fists full of cash demanding sexier apparel.
    What's that you say? Ten-year-olds can't drive? They don't have money, either? Well, how else are they getting ahold of these push-up bras and whore-friendly panties?
    Their parents?
    Noooo, couldn't be.
    What adult who wants a daughter to grow up with high self-esteem would even consider purchasing such items? What parent is looking at their sweet, little girl thinking, "She would be perfect if she just had a little bit more up top."
    And then I remember the little girl at the airport. And the girls we've all seen at the mall. And the kiddie beauty pageants.
    And then I realize as creepy as it is to think a store like Abercrombie is offering something like the "Ashley", the fact remains that sex only sells because people are buying it. No successful retailer would consider introducing an item like a padded bikini top for kindergarteners if they didn't think people would buy it.
    If they didn't think parents would buy it, which begs the question: What in the hell is wrong with us?
    It's easy to blast companies for introducing the sexy wear, but our ire really should be directed at the parents who think low rise jeans for a second grader is cute. They are the ones who are spending the money to fuel this budding trend. They are the ones who are suppose to decide what's appropriate for their young children to wear, not executives looking to brew up controversy or turn a profit.
    I get it, Rihanna's really popular. But that's a pretty weak reason for someone to dress their little girl like her.
    I don't care how popular Lil' Wayne is, my son knows I would break both of his legs long before I would allow him to walk out of the house with his pants falling off his butt. Such a stance doesn't always makes me popular -- and the house does get tense from time to time -- but I'm his father, not his friend.
    Friends bow to peer pressure. Parents say, "No, and that's the end of it."
    The way I see it, my son can go to therapy later if my strict rules have scarred him. But I have peace knowing he'll be able to afford therapy as an adult because I didn't allow him to wear or do whatever he wanted as a kid.
    Maybe I'm a Tiger Dad.
    Maybe I should mind my own business.
    Or maybe I'm just a concerned parent worried about little girls like the one I saw at the airport.
    In 2007, the American Psychological Association's Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls issued a report linking early sexualization with three of the most common mental-health problems of girls and women: eating disorders, low self-esteem and depression. There's nothing inherently wrong with parents wanting to appease their daughters by buying them the latest fashions. But is getting cool points today worth the harm dressing little girls like prostitutes could cause tomorrow?
    A line needs to be drawn, but not by Abercrombie. Not by Britney Spears. And not by these little girls who don't know better and desperately need their parents to be parents and not 40-year-old BFFs.
    The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of LZ Granderson.

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    I don't think some parents consider the fact that a percentage of the people who will view their children dressed provocatively are perverts. They are actually placing these kids at risk.
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    Mothers don't dress your babies like tramps, isn't that an old country song?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Mothers don't dress your babies like tramps, isn't that an old country song?
    . . . . . . let them be doctors and lawyers and such!
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    We home school our kids, and this is one good reason. We don't lock them in ivory towers, but we talk to them and address things together. Good post and responses. Glad it's not just me that's offended by trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Mothers don't dress your babies like tramps, isn't that an old country song?
    No, it's "Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys..."

    Certainly not while Jerry Jones owns the team.

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    Problem is when their mothers also dress like that and try to look 22 when they are 42. Daughter sees mom dressed trashy and imprints on that being normal. Victorias secret has clothes for young girls too. I seriously don't get the white suburb boy kids dressing like ghetto gangsters either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzX View Post
    No, it's "Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys..."

    Certainly not while Jerry Jones owns the team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMtnMan View Post
    I believe that is struth. Problem is the good kids are falling to the minority, JIMHO.
    And society suffers as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noangel2112 View Post
    I don't think some parents consider the fact that a percentage of the people who will view their children dressed provocatively are perverts. They are actually placing these kids at risk.
    They're only perverts because they are adults looking at little girls 'that way'. Would they be looking at little girls 'that way' if the little girls were not dressed 'that way' ?

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    love this part!

    "I don't care how popular Lil' Wayne is, my son knows I would break both of his legs long before I would allow him to walk out of the house with his pants falling off his butt. Such a stance doesn't always makes me popular -- and the house does get tense from time to time -- but I'm his father, not his friend.
    Friends bow to peer pressure. Parents say, "No, and that's the end of it."
    The way I see it, my son can go to therapy later if my strict rules have scarred him. But I have peace knowing he'll be able to afford therapy as an adult because I didn't allow him to wear or do whatever he wanted as a kid."
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    My son tried the pants around his ankle thing. I just started grabbing a handful of underwear every time he came down stairs like that. Didn't take long...
    My daughter bought a pair of short shorts once. She did wear them once before I saw them. They promptly were shredded and thrown out!
    Nope I don't get it, today you see kids wearing slippers to school. Gee wonder why they don't take school seriously? It all starts at home!
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    So, what age is acceptable to wear whatever you want?

    18? 21?

    I agree that parents should weigh in and try and maintain discipline, but I can tell it did not work with me and I doubt I was the exception. I did everything I wanted and only dealt with consequences if I got caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mowoc View Post
    So, what age is acceptable to wear whatever you want?

    18? 21?

    I agree that parents should weigh in and try and maintain discipline, but I can tell it did not work with me and I doubt I was the exception. I did everything I wanted and only dealt with consequences if I got caught.
    I'd say 21, or earlier if you are earning your own living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mowoc View Post
    So, what age is acceptable to wear whatever you want?

    18? 21?

    I agree that parents should weigh in and try and maintain discipline, but I can tell it did not work with me and I doubt I was the exception. I did everything I wanted and only dealt with consequences if I got caught.
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    I'd say 21, or earlier if you are earning your own living.
    Live in my house live by my rules period! My 18 year old son had a curfew of 9:00, and yes he did honor it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAH16 View Post
    Live in my house live by my rules period! My 18 year old son had a curfew of 9:00, and yes he did honor it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mowoc View Post
    So, what age is acceptable to wear whatever you want?

    18? 21?

    I agree that parents should weigh in and try and maintain discipline, but I can tell it did not work with me and I doubt I was the exception. I did everything I wanted and only dealt with consequences if I got caught.
    As far as I am concerned ...... minor children do not have the same rights as adults, nor do they enjoy the rights to privacy as adults do.

    When you live in someones home, you live under their rules.

    Don't like the rules?

    GET THE F*CK OUT !!!!!

    It's that simple.



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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Beast Driver View Post
    . . . . . . let them be doctors and lawyers and such!

    ...'cause they'll never be home;
    They'll be out gettin' boned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KD3NE View Post
    As far as I am concerned ...... minor children do not have the same rights as adults, nor do they enjoy the rights to privacy as adults do.

    When you live in someones home, you live under their rules.

    Don't like the rules?

    GET THE F*CK OUT !!!!!

    It's that simple.



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    I guess each and every action has a reaction. If you lean on your children and they rebel, be prepared for the consequences. I know far too many kids I grew up with that are estranged from their parents. Rightly or wrongly they just don't have a very close relationship with their parents directly due to the conflicts that occured during their formative years.
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    I saw a news clip the other day about our local schools (Wichita, KS). This female teacher, about 25 I guess, was in jeans, a sweatshirt looking top, and sneakers!!!

    When I was in public school, and college, all teachers work either dress clothes (ties / skirts) or what we would call 'business casual' today - slacks and button shirts for men, skirts for women.

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    Where I teach (an admittedly upscale public HS) we have a dress code that is enforced.

    No underwear showing (male or female).

    No Tshirts that have beer, booze, drug, or violence references. (usually we give the kid the option to go to the washroom and turn the tshirt inside out).

    For guys: no muscle shirts or bare midriff tshirts.

    Girls are a bit tougher, given the fashions. (Actually this year's fashions seem to be much more conservative. Sundresses, sweaters, and baggier slacks are much less sexual than fashions in past years. And as ugly as Ugggs are, it's better than the stiletto high heels girls used to wear!) No provocative fashion is allowed: no cleavage, bare midriffs, super short miniskirts, etc. For a guy teacher, it's a bit tougher to call a girl on it (you can't say "That outfit is too sexy!") so we're told to simply say "I feel you are not dressed appropriately, please go down to see the dean for his/her determination."

    Once the kids see that the code is being enforced, they get the picture. Of course, our parents care - there's a big difference.
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