Yes. I am going to convert my vtx 1300. I have a test cb750 motorcycle engine that is running on propane on the engine stand. Working out some bugs and learning via trial and error.
I did 30 years of Propane equipment - it runs too hot - might need dual radiators.
Plus the tank - making a 30lb aluminum forklift tank look sexy is going to be tough.
Then the constant maintenance of oil contamination getting into conversion regulator from the fuel.
But if gasoline does go road warrior - this is good alternative.
Mount scuba tanks side by side if they hold 350lbs psi safely.
Have you noticed how pricey propane has gotten lately?
Read every word - related to fuel.
Compressors just like engines have oil ring blow by - adding oil to the fuel.
Going inside conversion reg - will find it with pool of oil condensed in it.
Are we talking Propane or Natural Gas? 3000-G?
Is this a filling station for propane?
A normal home owner would not have Propane for Heating.
In the 60's we were on oil - usually most convert to Natural Gas - if this data is still fairly accurate at 85%.
While almost 85% of households in the United States heat with natural gas or electricity, more than 10% rely on heating oil or propane, according to the 2009 Residential Energy Consumption Survey.
The shares of heating oil and propane are likely to remain small but significant in the U.S. residential heating mix. These fuels serve distinct populations—heating oil primarily serves households in the Northeast, while propane serves households in rural areas across the country.
Over 80% of homes that rely on heating oil for space heating are located in the Northeast. Also, heating oil is most commonly used in older homes, as about one-half of all homes that currently use heating oil were built before 1950.
Generally, homes built since 1980 are not heated with heating oil, except in the Northeast. The survey data show that heating oil equipment is older than average but more likely to be regularly maintained than other types of heating equipment, providing some potential efficiency benefits.
Propane space heating has broader geographic distribution than heating oil, heating between 3% and 8% of households in every region. Across the country, propane use is most common in rural areas and mobile homes. About 83% of households with propane heating are located in rural areas that are typically beyond the reach of the natural gas distribution infrastructure.
In the Midwest, the rural share is greater than 90%. Additionally, those living in mobile homes are twice as likely to heat with propane as those in other housing unit types. Propane is becoming more common in the Northeast; of homes built in this region between 2000 and 2009, equal amounts are heated with propane and heating oil.
Read every word - related to fuel.
Compressors just like engines have oil ring blow by - adding oil to the fuel.
Going inside conversion reg - will find it with pool of oil condensed in it.
Are we talking Propane or Natural Gas? 3000-G?
Is this a filling station for propane?
A normal home owner would not have Propane for Heating.
Lpg not Cng. I fill at home. I do heat with lpg. It is very very common in the Midwest. It doesn't make sense to run a mile of nat gas pipe only to reach a few homes. I technically live outside the jurisdiction of the local town but the town is on both sides of me. I probably could get natural gas but I would probably need 300 yards of pipe to hook up. The ground is almost solid sandstone so easier said than done.
Propane is everywhere here. The small towns mostly have Nat gas but everyone else uses lpg or electric. Since propane is transported rail or semi, it is exponentially more expensive the further you get from oil country. In my area, there are at least a dozen active drilling rigs within 20miles. They light up the sky at night and you can see them miles away. Also once they are freshly drilled, they often flare the gas off until the pipeline is all hooked up. Massive flames that can be seen a long way at night. Other than drilling new wells, there are more than you would care to count. I once was driving down a dirt road and counted 27 active wells from the place I stopped on the road.
I have the normal 500 gallon tank for home heating then a 3,000 gallon tank (30 feet long 6 feet tall mounted on i-beam skid) that I fill cars and trucks on.
I will look into the oil contamination issue you mention. All my cars/trucks all have sequential injection kits vs the suction kit. The newer sequential injection kits are simple to program. This suction business is be to me ( other than riding mower and generator that I converted).
I have 5 bikes and figured the vtx would be the easiest to experiment with.
My Natural Gas is also transported in -
I even snow blow a clear path for them to drag all that hose 150' getting to it.
Has to be the worst case in a delivery deal.
Now wouldn't it be nice all that burn off was heating bulk water for the city?
It blows my mind when I visit friends in Sweden - crews are blasting / cutting solid granite next to sidewalks
to get the hot water to the homes - then stored in large dual tanks for heating the home & bath.
All my cars/trucks all have sequential injection kits vs the suction kit.
It has injector rail and piggy backs off stock computer. Second computer shuts off gasoline injectors and fires the lpg rail and makes corrections for different btu. You don't even know that propane is running instead of gasoline. I set cruise at 75 in my Camry all 55 miles to work. I still pull small trailer on occasion as well. Exact same kit as cng but different tank and different regulator.
Yes. I am going to convert my vtx 1300. I have a test cb750 motorcycle engine that is running on propane on the engine stand. Working out some bugs and learning via trial and error.
I did 30 years of Propane equipment - it runs too hot - might need dual radiators.
Plus the tank - making a 30lb aluminum forklift tank look sexy is going to be tough.
Then the constant maintenance of oil contamination getting into conversion regulator from the fuel.
But if gasoline does go road warrior - this is good alternative.
Mount scuba tanks side by side if they hold 350lbs psi safely.
Have you noticed how pricey propane has gotten lately?
My very first engine rebuild job (company).. forklifts/tow-motors on propane... used indoors mostly.. man the operators sure knew how to break those 4 cylinder water cooled engines... I think we were on overtime for over 1 year. at lease it felt like it. broke engines everywhere.
Never had that severe on my fleets - but imagine vacuum cleaner canister never cleaned for ten years -
Open the hood - It's 2-3" thick everywhere as a rolling warehouse aircleaner.
That's how it starts when I showed up. Before I leave they all looked like new.
Then if junk yard dog got in there - complete nitemare.
"Extended Engine Life — Propane has less BTUs of energy per unit than gasoline. While this means that it takes more propane than gasoline to power an engine, the advantages are that less energy is wasted in combustion of propane. Engines run on propane run cooler, which means less stress on internal engine parts and extended engine life."
Propane is a dry gas that burn complete -
there's no residue like wet gasoline to help cool the process creating carbon black.
Air cooled application - Propane will be hotter.
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