My front tire is in need of replacement but i noticed it is wearing more on one side than the other..... possible my fork needs changing? one fork softer than the other? vtx 1300c 2004 also what size socket and allen wrench do i need to remove tire?
front tire wearing funny
My front tire is in need of replacement but i noticed it is wearing more on one side than the other..... possible my fork needs changing? one fork softer than the other? vtx 1300c 2004 also what size socket and allen wrench do i need to remove tire?
I would bet that it is wearing more on the left side than the right.
There are a number of old threads on here about it. Actually it's normal wear. based on road crowning and a few other factors.
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'03 Red 1300-s Retro.
left if your sitting on the bike i believe is more worn.......??????? my dad sugested changing fork oil... so its normal just put my new tire on and it should be ok? when i put my rear tiire on front looked fine then all of a sudden my front was worn out on left side????Originally Posted by woody3
How many miles on tire?
Will last longer if.
Do not run the tire pressure that is recommended in the manual.
Run 40 in front and 40 psi in rear.
If you run what the manual says you will go threw a set of tire in 7 to 9K miles.
If you run what I said above you can get over 18k miles out of it. The ride will be pretty much the same but less squirming in corners and better handling.
Donut/Doug
DonutDoug
My Dunlops wore that way, I switched brands, but don't have enough miles on them to tell.
2007 VTX 1300R Bagger, Titanium
Reckless fairing, Tsukayu VTX-specific hardbags, Ultimate Big Boy seats, Progressive suspension, Vance and Hines Big Shots, and Baron BAK intake.
I just changed my Dunlops and had the same "left side" wear on the front tire. Put a fresh set of Metzelers on and the sevice tech recommended 40/42psi. I can't remeber if he said 40 in front or 42...so I'll probably run 40 in both front and rear as Donut suggests.
Bob - '03 1300S Black......it's got stuff
1. follow dougs tire pressure suggestion
2. get a better tire when you replace the dunlops
3. ignore road crown mumbo jumbo
enjoy
2005 VTX 1300 S
Too many to list
This type of tire wear is very common on the VTX as well as many other bikes. As said, there are different theories as to why, but none proven to my knowledge.
The suggestion as to tire pressure 40/40 is a good one IMO. I doubt the brand has much to do with it, but there are some who believe it is a factor.
Dan
Silver '04 1300/S
my factory dunlops did the same thing 8000 miles was shot put metzlers on now have 20k and not worn like dunlops still 50% trad left
Ride free ,always ride defensive as though your invisible to people around you2006 1300R
riddle me this
Ive got the orginal dunlop (140) sitting out in the garage with 12k on it even tread wear across it...next tire was another dunlop (110) got the left tread wear at about 6k....right now running a 110 pirelli and it seems to be doing fine....but as mentioned the tread wear seems to be the norm....good luck
40 psi....religously
Last edited by TennX; 04-07-2012 at 09:42 AM.
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06 1300R/ Candy Black Cherry/Darkside/Foots.....
i really think it's all due to the tire pressure you run. i have run 40-42 in my front tires since day one and have never had that problem.
texasmike
1300c 8 degree rake, cobra pipes, c&c seat, darkside and lots more
Two year ago i read from a member to not forget to do the last part of the front wheel installation in the manual on section 13 at the top page 12
http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1333801909
Something i didn't do before .
How many of you do this part ?
I notice when i do it the left fork pop out ± 1/16 . Did it make sens if the right fork pull the left fork ?
Don't know how much mile i do from that time but i still cant see the diff btw the left and right side .
That's some really good insight about the tires. When my X gets the hoops remounted, they will be pumped to 40 psi.
Jim
CP Punishers, Kury turn signal mirrors, MS windshield, VT-Xtreme 6* trees w/2" ext., powder coated frame and wheels, custom rear fender with taillight, Glen's perm. a/f screw, HK pipes, 205/70/15 CT
Once the axle is in place and tight, the front forks act as one piece. One fork being softer will not make the tire wear uneven. Tire pressure is about the biggest cause of uneven tire wear. Keep them at 38-40 psi on both.
Read this for more;
http://www.rattlebars.com/tirewear/
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2002 VTX1800 C
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All roads have to drain and they are not pored flat so all the time the bike wheel is never st a 90 degree with the road.
Take your car and let go of the wheel ant it will always drift to the right unless you are in the left lane and then it will drifted to the left.
You naturally will compensate for this when riding and that is why the front wheel wears on the left side. Now if you were riding in a country that drives on the oposit side the wheel will wear on the right side. This only makes common sense.
The only other thing that can cause the wheel to wear wrong is if the top of the tree is not sticking up threw equally ( one side of mine was off 1/8 of an inch until I corrected it. If it is off at the top it will definitely be off at the bottom. This is my theory and I'm sticking to it.
Donut/Doug
Donut
Donut has spanked me for this comment before, but I just run 33 in the front and 36 in the rear because it is in the manual. I'm concerned about an overinflated tire because I'm afraid of loosing traction in a wet curve. For those of you that run 40, how do you like it? I might try it if it is better.
2007 VTX 1300R Bagger, Titanium
Reckless fairing, Tsukayu VTX-specific hardbags, Ultimate Big Boy seats, Progressive suspension, Vance and Hines Big Shots, and Baron BAK intake.
I put the low pressure question to Dunlop at the Honda Homecoming and their reply to me was Honda recommends a low pressure for a smooth/soft ride. Dunlop said they would wear and ride much better at a higher 38 psi. The max for the OEM tire I believe is 42. So 38 isn't going to do anything bad for you. I noticed a much better ride in handling when I upped to 40 psi, rain didn't matter, OEM Dunlops sucked in rain.
DLP Sells Victory Too
2002 VTX1800 C
AMA Life Member 721314
I have heard slope of the road being attributed to the front tire wearing on the left side. I could buy that if the rear tire wore the same way.....I mean why would the front wear that way and not the rear as well?All roads have to drain and they are not pored flat so all the time the bike wheel is never st a 90 degree with the road.
Take your car and let go of the wheel ant it will always drift to the right unless you are in the left lane and then it will drifted to the left.
You naturally will compensate for this when riding and that is why the front wheel wears on the left side. Now if you were riding in a country that drives on the oposit side the wheel will wear on the right side. This only makes common sense.
The only other thing that can cause the wheel to wear wrong is if the top of the tree is not sticking up threw equally ( one side of mine was off 1/8 of an inch until I corrected it. If it is off at the top it will definitely be off at the bottom. This is my theory and I'm sticking to it.
Donut/Doug
2007 VTX1300R
LOL. This is the exact question why the crown excuse does not work. As said, there are theories but none proven and none totally credible.
Dan
Silver '04 1300/S
Most right turns are conventional turns--you actually turn the wheel to the right.
Most left turns are faster and you are in counter-steer mode and leaning, scrubbing, wearing the tire in the characteristic wear point.
Last edited by Hans&Feet; 04-07-2012 at 10:54 PM.
2005 1300c Red, Mustang seat, HK 2.5 straights. Leds for safety-front & back.
140,557 VTX miles...On 8th frt tire, 12th rear tire
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The rear tire is a trailering tire - it follows and the front tire actually takes more of a beating because of the handlebar movement. You have a car tire that screeches when you turn hard in a parking lot but the back just follows.
Titanium-X ---- over my Knee.!!!!
Donut/Doug
Donut
Will 40/40 work okay on a VTX 1300R?
Ask a Darksider. I guess the rear tire doesn't roll side to side as much as the front tire when in a turn or on a crowned road.
Last edited by Titanium-X; 04-07-2012 at 11:39 PM.
2007 VTX 1300R Bagger, Titanium
Reckless fairing, Tsukayu VTX-specific hardbags, Ultimate Big Boy seats, Progressive suspension, Vance and Hines Big Shots, and Baron BAK intake.
I had the same thing with my dunlop front tire, it was practically bald on the left side, and it would wobble. my rear tire is still good, and i only have 6k miles on it, I recently bought a metzler for the front, since everyone recommended it. and i noticed that it doesn't wobble as much, so that helped.
damn dealers!!! they're all idiots there, when i picked up the wheel after they mounted the new tire and the tube on it and balanced, they told me that they put 36psi into it, when i came home, i put it on and took it for a spin, and went to work the next day on it, and on the way back i decided to check the pressure...freaking 75psi!!! i thought oh my God... they're idiots.
Learned my lesson, ALWAYS, ALWAYS check their work!
put some miles on that thing, and stay safe.
"""" doesn't wobble as much, so that helped." the new tire is masking the wobble problem because the more tread is takeing up the wobble.I had the same thing with my dunlop front tire, it was practically bald on the left side, and it would wobble. my rear tire is still good, and i only have 6k miles on it, I recently bought a metzler for the front, since everyone recommended it. and i noticed that it doesn't wobble as much, so that helped.
damn dealers!!! they're all idiots there, when i picked up the wheel after they mounted the new tire and the tube on it and balanced, they told me that they put 36psi into it, when i came home, i put it on and took it for a spin, and went to work the next day on it, and on the way back i decided to check the pressure...
Learned my lesson, ALWAYS, ALWAYS check their work!
I'll bet your steering head bearings are going bad. Do not replace them with the OEM junk bearings. Only with All-Balls roller bearings.
Donut/Doug
Donut
What the stealers DON'T know about these bikes surprises me to no end!I had the same thing with my dunlop front tire, it was practically bald on the left side, and it would wobble. my rear tire is still good, and i only have 6k miles on it, I recently bought a metzler for the front, since everyone recommended it. and i noticed that it doesn't wobble as much, so that helped.
damn dealers!!! they're all idiots there, when i picked up the wheel after they mounted the new tire and the tube on it and balanced, they told me that they put 36psi into it, when i came home, i put it on and took it for a spin, and went to work the next day on it, and on the way back i decided to check the pressure...
Learned my lesson, ALWAYS, ALWAYS check their work!
2007 VTX 1300R Bagger, Titanium
Reckless fairing, Tsukayu VTX-specific hardbags, Ultimate Big Boy seats, Progressive suspension, Vance and Hines Big Shots, and Baron BAK intake.
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Yep, and the fact Left turns are ten times longer and faster than Right turns.
Forks have zero effect as to off center wear.
In some cases, long distance prevailing wind from the Left will add wear.
Not trying to argue here, but I dont see how the rear tire being a trailering tire has a bearing on the front tires wear tendency. Granted, a tire that can steer is going to move across the pavement different than one that does not, but the rear tire is subject to not being at a 90 degree angle to the road (because of crown) just like the front tire is. To my way of thinking, if the crown is the cause of the uneven wear, the back tire should show at least some signs of it even if its going through less beating than the front. Its an intriguing situation and Im inclined to think its a front end geometry related thing but am taking input into other prospectives!
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