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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    Disagree. I ride both regularly, yes on VTXs and prefer the CT. Only issue with a CT is the low speed on uneven/broken pavement tendency to walk.

    i disagree that uneven pavement is the only issue with handling,



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    Six2Go Todays discussion/rant also had a picture of a couple who were also riding their bike as it threw a shower of sparks and was riding on the edge of a car tire. Six2go
    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    The couple throwing sparks are not 'on the edge' of the tire.
    The CT has been found to have softer compound than the MT.
    Odd, I made an effort to show it was not on the edge, obvious 1/3 of tire in patch.
    Still more than a MT Patch, with thirty times the grip sipes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philscbx View Post
    Odd, I made an effort to show it was not on the edge, obvious 1/3 of tire in patch.
    Still more than a MT Patch, with thirty times the grip sipes..
    Oh Well

    your pic doesnt work but this one looks like its on the edge




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    Cool MAIDS Motorcycle Accident Study:

    The small stuff: Vehicle defects, mostly tire failures, contributed to less than one percent of crashes. A roadway maintenance defect caused the accident or was a contributing factor in 3.6 percent of the accidents studied. Still, it's worth looking at your tires every ride.


    The study did not list any CT's in the failures....



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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    The guy who tossed his bike had nothing to do with it being a car tire.


    The CT has been found to have softer compound than the MT.

    "eight broken ribs and a broken collar bone later, I have decided to go back to the bike tire!"
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    "The CT has been found to have softer compound than the MT."
    Shouldn't that read " A car tire was found to have a softer compound when it was compared to 2 used motorcycle tires of undetermined age and air pressure......all 3 tires were tested once while using an cheap easily manipulated hand held durometer under the noon day sun".......or are you referring to some other tests that were conducted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    "eight broken ribs and a broken collar bone later, I have decided to go back to the bike tire!"
    PhotoReflect - Xtreme Sports Photography - The Dragon May 23rd, 2011 Monday

    http://www.rswarrior.com/forums/13-t...ml#post2207650

    "The CT has been found to have softer compound than the MT."
    Shouldn't that read " A car tire was found to have a softer compound when it was compared to 2 used motorcycle tires of undetermined age and air pressure......all 3 tires were tested once while using an cheap easily manipulated hand held durometer under the noon day sun".......or are you referring to some other tests that were conducted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    Believe whatever you like.
    I personally did my research and think its the way to go... Picking up my bridgestone potenza grid 019 tire today... will have it mounted next week. Quite honestly I think its gonna be killer... I have not found any failure stories on CT on a bike but I have read too many to count MT on a motorcycle failure stories. Heck my buddys dad recently had a dunflop blow up on the freeway and spent months in the hospital... and that was one of these "safer" MT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone270 View Post
    This thread will be locked after twin1300 post to it....


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    ......the guy that loved runing a car tire up to 135 mph on his VTX1300? No one loved his car tire as much as him

    not even this guy

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    Damn....I just noticed my ignore list is on the 2nd page....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    Believe whatever you like.
    I believe that had a 4 th grader conducted that same experiment and testing for a school science project and reached the same conclusions you have, he would receive no more than an "F" for his efforts


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    OK, first off, I've been SORT of anti-CT for ever (not enough to get in a pizzing match though).

    I need a rear tire for my 1300R and would like to know what CT matches the profile of a motorcycle tire (as far as the roundess goes).

    I've seen several pictures where it looks like a motorcyle tire and it is not losing that much contact area, for instance the video from KeyWasted.

    I've seen others that look like the rider is on the edge of a square tire, like the pics of the guy losing it.

    I'm not a "twisties" type rider, so I can get away with not leaning so much in the corners all the time.

    So what tire is actually more rounded on the bottom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    I believe that had a 4 th grader conducted that same experiment and testing for a school science project and reached the same conclusions you have, he would receive no more than an "F" for his efforts
    As I said knight, believe whatever you want. Still does not make you anymore correct. Well, maybe in your own mind. The simple fact is that the CT does work extremely well for many people in all aspects of performance. What you believe changes nothing in the real world.

    And here is a video a lot more pertinent to the discussion. Not sure what you racing and dirt bikes have to do with anything.

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    Check out the yokohama envigor its profile is rounder and it gits good reviews on here , I wish it came in a size for my GL 1500, it will be my next tire on the X, if my MHE ever wears out...do your home work....good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greybeard View Post
    So what tire is actually more rounded on the bottom?
    Some old timers in a pinch would run WV tires on their choppers..........after burning off the edges

    A lot easier to do with a lighter bike

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    Photo of the actual Bronson bike. Maybe time to change your avatar knight?
    Looks more CT than MT to me. Know it is a bike tire but the profile is a lot more car like than bike like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    As I said knight, believe whatever you want. Still does not make you anymore correct. Well, maybe in your own mind. The simple fact is that the CT does work extremely well for many people in all aspects of performance. What you believe changes nothing in the real world.

    And here is a video a lot more pertinent to the discussion. Not sure what you racing and dirt bikes have to do with anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    Photo of the actual Bronson bike. Maybe time to change your avatar knight?
    Looks more CT than MT to me. Know it is a bike tire but the profile is a lot more car like than bike like.
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    Did you ride a bike in the late 60s and early 70s , ? I did . 100 miles and you were done, thats if the drum brakes would stop you ,,,,,,,,and you would be vibrating for the next 24 hours Bike tires have come along way since we were drinking tang and watching moon landings

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    As I said knight, believe whatever you want. Still does not make you anymore correct. Well, maybe in your own mind. The simple fact is that the CT does work extremely well for many people in all aspects of performance. What you believe changes nothing in the real world.

    And here is a video a lot more pertinent to the discussion. Not sure what you racing and dirt bikes have to do with anything.

    sure does look like he cant keep it on his side of the yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDAna View Post
    As I said knight, believe whatever you want. Still does not make you anymore correct. Well, maybe in your own mind. The simple fact is that the CT does work extremely well for many people in all aspects of performance. What you believe changes nothing in the real world.

    And here is a video a lot more pertinent to the discussion. Not sure what you racing and dirt bikes have to do with anything.

    That's quite the discovery .....kind of reminds me of that guy on Mythbusters


    Was that a ride around the block or did he just forget his tennis racket ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Riddle View Post
    your pic doesnt work but this one looks like its on the edge

    - It was the same image ZOOMED IN. But somehow vanished from previous post.
    Screen shot 2012-05-31 at 11.23.46 AM.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Did you ride a bike in the late 60s and early 70s , ? I did . 100 miles and you were done, thats if the drum brakes would stop you ,,,,,,,,and you would be vibrating for the next 24 hours Bike tires have come along way since we were drinking tang and watching moon landings


    but knight... if it was good enough then, it's good enough now! at least that's what Harley has taught us? (harley guys don't get your panties in a wad!, its a joke son!)

    look, these guys have made a personal choice, and when you question their choice, some take it as a personal insult.

    That's why you are seeing so much name calling, and very emotional reply's. Only thing you can do, is just set them straight when claims such as better braking, better corning, and it's safer all around come up. They will deny it, tell you since you haven't ridden one you cant talk about it, everyone else is doing it so it must be ok, and any other of such manner rather than actually really talk about their claims.


    these guys have made their choice, let them be happy in their own minds. Their bike, their life (hopefully just their life) Just don't let em keep telling untested opinions as gospel truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philscbx View Post
    - It was the same image ZOOMED IN. But somehow vanished from previous post.
    Screen shot 2012-05-31 at 11.23.46 AM.jpg
    that is a whole lot of sidewall flexxing going on....

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    2004 VTX 1800 C bought new in '06. I went darkside after 8k on mc tire and replacement installed was about $250 which I promptly caught a nail in. I now have over 120,000 miles on my X, with over 111,000 miles of trouble free darkside riding. I ride often and I ride aggressive. I see no downside to The DARKSIDE...

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    darksider here and i know what works for me and dont give a crap what anybody else uses,i say lets go ride the hell out of our bikes and let the knowitalls flame us or whatever thier agenda may be,i can ignore close minded people easier than anybody else,go riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isorg View Post
    that is a whole lot of sidewall flexxing going on....

    Exactly, now you're getting it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isorg View Post
    that is a whole lot of sidewall flexxing going on....
    tire looks deformed.............kinda like this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Did you ride a bike in the late 60s and early 70s , ? I did . 100 miles and you were done, thats if the drum brakes would stop you ,,,,,,,,and you would be vibrating for the next 24 hours Bike tires have come along way since we were drinking tang and watching moon landings

    1st bike was a Matchless 650 in '66. Many 300 mile days. Not that big a deal. Car tires have evolved a lot more than bike tires.
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