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After thinking about the little bit of info that we got yesterday from Honda and looking at the picture I came to a wild conclusion: its a hybrid. Thats why they covered up the bottom of the bike and its why they made the statements that they did. It all points at nothing else. An air cooled gas engine with hybrid capability. And can you imagine the HP when both the electric motor and gas engine are run at the same time.
What do you think? How can you explain some of their comments? like you have never seen from any major manufacturer A chopper a brand new direction for Honda in the cruiser category we will shake up the industry as never before this exciting new machine destined to be a real winner Another Honda first a whole new approach no better time to be with Honda
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I am at a loss for words on what you just said... Maybe a trike? Let's wait and see!
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I think if it's a hybrid it's gonna haul azz. I'm interested to see what it really is one way or the other. I'm used to both electric vehicles and hybrids, we have the largest fleet of diesel hybrids in the world here at King County Metro Transit
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That would live up to the "Revolutionary" billing. They would then leapfrog the competition.
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its all just a dream........
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One other bit:
In Honda's presentation yesterday they showed the Fury picture and then showed a 150cc scooter that was new. Absolutely no mention about the scooter but I thought it looked a little wierd in the back. That ties in with the Magazine article about the sizes of Hybrids they plan to build.
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But someone has to have that dream.
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Evidence #2
Honda's protototype Hybrid Scooter
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Mt bet is it's a semi-auto
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I gotta say the new technology is interesting and the expanding usage of it and sending it to the motorcycle industry will make a big change and make a lot of people scratch their heads, It'll certainly be a great boost to the whole green movement.
I've really got a kick out of the ever expanding " what's next " questions and speculations, However after I see a new M109 in my driveway this spring, Honda will need to do something really impressive to get my next purchase.
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Thats Cute! 100 + miles to the tank
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Do a search and you will see that Honda has been working on Hybrid scooter/motorcycle technology for at least 4 years. This may also explain why they have been so slow to bring out new bikes. They knew that this hybrid stuff was just around the corner and it will be a wide open market place for them. The first adopter of new technologies has an advantage. Lets see what they do with it.
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I guess we will wait until Dec for the next clue and the who knows maybe next year more clues. They should go ahead and get it over with before they lose more sales. Thats what I think
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Maybe the semi-auto trans is part of the whole package. Maybe their theory is that so many people will want the Hybrid that they have to make it user friendly to increase thir market. Just like a scooter. You are either on the gas or on the brakes. No shifting involved.
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The full shot photos will be out in early December. This could be a very historic time in this industry.
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And this looks very close to the scooter that I saw yesterday in the Honda video. No info on what it was.
But the middle one looks very close:
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Nothing in the picture or the propaganda interests me in the least. I don't know what they're doing or who they're paying big bucks to for market research, but there ain't a rider I know that's drooling over anything 'new' from Honda.
Lucky for me I'm in no hurry to unload my X.
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I can see where your thought process is taking you. The evidence is overwhelming.
BUT..... With the Cruiser world as a whole and the "chopper" crowd to be more specific being (dare I say it) Old School . Would this be the best platform to Showcase this new technology. Scooters and the like I can see and even mabye a touring bike but a Chopper......All this is gonna do is make all those that have been looking for a big bore chopper from honda to blow their collective tops. Just my thought on this matter |
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, a chopper just doesn't seem like the right platform. That being said, it would definately shake things up!
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Maybe the next 'big' thing from Honda isn't a large chopper. Radical new cycle technology applied to a range of machines would be a 'big thing', in and of itself.
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Hal, Do I see one of those in your Future
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that bike does not have a v twin in it . look at the v the rear cylinder would hit the frame . now before hal said hybrid . my thought was inline 4 . like a 1400 cc 200 horse inline 4 with a diferent kind of drive train . but the rear end looks bulged and unatural . i am going to give hal credit i think hes got it . the rear of the bike is a dead give away . personaly i am bored with honda my next bike is going to be a concours 14 . i will keep the x for now . kawi is going to sell alot of those baggers if they price it low enough .
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My post was more a reference to all the hype last year with what I thought was very lacking on delivery.
Either way, no matter what they produce I will still be riding my X. That is if I dont have to prioritize my outbound cash flow. Besides, the hybrid idea is great. But as a matter of efficiency, I see it better executed in a full fairing vehicle. Still Im all for new ideas and technology, so I hope this dream pans out. until then
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Did they say that it was going to be an air cooled engine? I sincerely doubt it will be a hybrid. Most likely. They did something different with the radiator. Like hiding it somewhere. Other possibilities include ABS, a different type drive system (belt or chain), or the automatic transmission unit they have developed for he DN-01. Given Honda's track record, I am skeptical about a hybrid system.
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Honda really didn't say much that was specific. I am giving you my prediction for what is coming. If it is a Hybrid they need as much space as possible for batteries and they aren't gonna give that up for a radiator.
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I for one hope your wrong... I like to shift my motorcycle call me crazy.
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I agree with Hal and Vote for a Hybred. Why in a Chopper I don't know, but I agree. I am keeping my VTX until the grave, but as a second bike and first kid on the block I am interested.
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