Hans&feet, yes, that's them! Sorry for the late reply. I've been pretty busy here lately. My dad and I are actually going to the indian dealership later today to take a look around. He recently retired and my X makes him miss his. I love the indians and want to add one to my family. Also, he can ride my X so I have riding buddies that aren't harley fanboys 😄. Speaking of, I finally had to shut up the 3 guys I ride with. We were all cruising the other night and one by one, they lined up with me and started revving. I embarrassed an 88ci fatboy, 96ci glide, and 103ci softail.