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Victory Motorcycles - Demo Rides

Local Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki/Polaris/Victory dealer had lots of Victory demo bikes Saturday. Minnesota dealer tags on all of the bikes - and a big, honkin, tractor-trailer to take them from dealer to dealer.

So what the heck? Free rides? OK.

We were STRONGLY encouraged to ride and ride and ride. Take out as many models as you want.

I took out a Vision, a Vegas-something, and a Hammer.

All of the new bikes are 106 cubic inches and you can tell the difference. Very, very, good power. Good brakes and good handling.

Transmissions are really, really, clunky. All the bikes I rode had more than 3,000 miles on them so I sorta wrote off the whole idea that maybe they needed to "break-in" to make the transmissions smoother. The whole clunky transmission thing seemed to be a topic of conversation with the other riders, as well.

Hey, maybe they're SUPPOSED to be clunky.

Would I buy a Victory? Probably not. In this part of the country they lose value immediately and are hard to re-sale. I don't know of any of the bike dealers in the local area that will even take one in on trade.

Probably different in your area - just not here.

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I bought a new Vision this past March and it now has 11,000 miles on it and yep it has a clunky tranny. Bothered me at first but now I'm used to it because the ride and comfort far out weight the clunk. I know all forums are mostly bias and that's ok but all reports are saying the engines and transmissions are bullet proof.

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My 2010 Cross Country clunks into 1st and 2nd. After that it is hardly noticable. I look at it this way - I know I'm in gear when it clunks! It's all part of the bikes character.
As for resale, well if I was worried about that I would never have purchased my 02 VTX 1800. I'll be lucky to get about $4000 for it and payed just over $11K new. Have never bought a vehicle with trade-in/resale as a factor. That's just me though.
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I bought a new Vision this past March and it now has 11,000 miles on it and yep it has a clunky tranny. Bothered me at first but now I'm used to it because the ride and comfort far out weight the clunk. I know all forums are mostly bias and that's ok but all reports are saying the engines and transmissions are bullet proof.
Try preloading the shifter when you shift. Makes my Vision much smoother!

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Waiting for the Kawi's to come over here and have test rides.. Id like to take that 1700 Vaquero for a spin.

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I lookd at the Vics last year when I got the Raider, and the build quality looked a little lower (at least on the Vegas). I could see seams, and parts of the frame looked, well, crude (up close.)
The VTX I looked at and the Yamahas both seemed to be much higher quality. They looked better close up (and therefore from far away, too).
I was disappointed in Victory, but I didn't ride one.

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I lookd at the Vics last year when I got the Raider, and the build quality looked a little lower (at least on the Vegas). I could see seams, and parts of the frame looked, well, crude (up close.)
The VTX I looked at and the Yamahas both seemed to be much higher quality. They looked better close up (and therefore from far away, too).
I was disappointed in Victory, but I didn't ride one.
Yamaha is making a great line of bikes.

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I bought a new Vision this past March and it now has 11,000 miles on it and yep it has a clunky tranny. Bothered me at first but now I'm used to it because the ride and comfort far out weight the clunk. I know all forums are mostly bias and that's ok but all reports are saying the engines and transmissions are bullet proof.
That's kinda where I was going with that. I like the bikes and they're offering some really good deals right about now......

I have seen some of the older Harley 4-speed boxes that are really clunky and it's because of the gear design (straight cut gears). They clunk like heck but are dead realiable. So (maybe) it's the design of the gears in the box) I do know that Harley has gone to helical-cut gears in their gearboxes in recent years. Quietier and very smooth shift but wouldn't typically be as durable as the straight-cut variety.



It seemed to me that (after some amount of experimentation) I could up-shift these Victory bikes without a clunk - but I never did find a way to remove the hard clunk on down-shift.

It also may have something to do with the oil that they're using. I've found that certain oils are less prone to causing that "clunk" than others.

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I too have a 2010 XC and the clunky trans does not brother me at all. As for re-sale, I think U will find that on almost any bike right now. To me the real down fall is dealer support. I do my own matiance but for any warrentee or other issue, it seams hard to find a close dealer that will take care of issues.

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