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post #31 of 83 (permalink) Old 04-02-2019, 11:01 AM
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no arguing. .. or disagreement...
I got my 66 CB77 in 69,,,, same engine different frame as CL77.
steering head bearings.. fork seals... rear swing arm bushings.....
all bar switches had issues..

maybe.. I live 10 miles south of Lake Erie...and 6 months of winter..

I sold the bike in 72 with 12,xxx miles..


it was a good and fun machine... but needed maintenance...

When I was a kid, a buddy of mine had an old bike. I can't remember what he had, but the fork seals were shot and had bled out long ago. The swing arm was a bit wobbly, the head bearings shot, the bike clunked loudly with every bump. Brakes were shot, and the bike was in horrific condition, but ran like a top. It was a 2 smoker as I recall. He rode that for years until he could afford something better. It was a death trap, but to him, he didn't notice because he had no point of reference and had never ridden a maintained bike, and he surely wasn't going to ride mine ... LOL.


I am often amazed at what people ride in such disrepair, ignoring the small things until they become big things. Big things are almost always very dangerous. I'm pretty particular about things being "right". Cosmetic things are bothersome, but are what they are. Mechanical things need to be correct, or I don't sleep.
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When I was a kid, a buddy of mine had an old bike. I can't remember what he had, but the fork seals were shot and had bled out long ago. The swing arm was a bit wobbly, the head bearings shot, the bike clunked loudly with every bump. Brakes were shot, and the bike was in horrific condition, but ran like a top. It was a 2 smoker as I recall. He rode that for years until he could afford something better. It was a death trap, but to him, he didn't notice because he had no point of reference and had never ridden a maintained bike, and he surely wasn't going to ride mine ... LOL.


I am often amazed at what people ride in such disrepair, ignoring the small things until they become big things. Big things are almost always very dangerous. I'm pretty particular about things being "right". Cosmetic things are bothersome, but are what they are. Mechanical things need to be correct, or I don't sleep.

1988... my 83 VF750F... broke the shifter ratchet spring... rode home in second gear... without that spring...NO SHIFTING..
jumped into car... got the spring from Honda Dealer... spent most of the night replacing the spring.... went to bed at 2:30am.. up at 5:00am for work...


all part of riding a motorcycle... no Big deal...


my bikes are always correct...

I could take my "F" for a 5,000 mile ride today.. its always Ready.. even with 86,000 miles..
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'02 1800 S model. Bought new in March of '03.

Pro's:

Power & torque
Great MPGs
Sharp looking
Lots of parts (new and used) still available
Easy to work on
Frame below engine makes it easy to jack up
Reliable
Linked braking system works great (even though I opted to un-link mine because I wanted to)
Does curves even better since I ditched the spoke wheels for C model wheels (+ the 16" rear wheel bodes well for the car tire I choose to run)
Floorboards provide an early warning system that hard parts are about to drag

Con's:

Seems to weigh more now than it did 16 yrs. ago
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I never understood the top heavy complaint. I picked up a 1800 R with the usual add-ons and it felt light compared to my fully kitted 1300. Handling and cornering with the 1800 never felt top heavy. Easy in and easy out. But then I find the Vulcan 2000 also easy to handle. I think it's the amount of time I spend on my 1300 fully loaded with gear and a passenger that has me used to top heavy and even then it's still easy to handle.

Lots of pros to the 1800. The only cons IMO of the 1800:

- Jerky and drive lash in low gears. The Vulcan 2000 feels like a 600cc scooter compared to the lash of the VTX 1800. This is the main drawback to me as it's the same with the 1300.
- No ABS. The only second drawback to me. But competing bikes in this segment didn't get the ABS treatment either.
- Gas tank in R/S/N models is acceptable. Rest of models, not.
- Shocks could be much better. Easy solution.

Complaints I've heard or read that I'm OK with:

- Too heavy: maybe compared to a sportbike or the Yamaha Stratoliner with the aluminium frame.
- Too much plastic: the 1800 has a surprising low amount of plastic. I don't mind plastic in cosmetic areas.
- Sound: meh, the 1800 sounds like a Nascar car especially with pipes. I like that. And dual pin helps with vibes anyway.
- Not comfortable: the 1800 isn't a real tourer but can be made into one. Easy fixes. Buy an Airhawk if not replacing seat.
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Before I got my 2007 (in 2014) I had recently owned a Virago and a Shadow Spirit 1100. Those hadn't been the biggest I had owned, because there had also been a couple of Gold Wings in my past. I have two cousins who BOTH have 1800's (one R and one S), and I had ridden both of theirs, so I knew what the 1800 was. Saw an ad at the local dealer for the 2007. She had 523 miles when I got her. The previous owner said every time he rode it, his back hurt and he would put it back in his shop for another year, until he tried it again. His loss turned into my gain.
I have had her since May of 2014. I still don't ride as much as I want to, but am approaching retirement, and hopefully will be able to ride more. She is now approaching 10K miles.
Here's my take on the bike --


PROS
Power and Torque
Looks
Options to add after-market stuff and really personalize it
Extended Controls
Dependability & Reputation - Pretty Much Bullet-Proof


CONS
Top Heavy
No Reverse - yes, I know.... I'm getting old
Reduction of Support


The only way I will sell my bike (or pass it on to my son) is if I get to the point I can't comfortably hold it up anymore. Of course, I can always add a trike kit!!!

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Top Heavy.... I am top heavy... 6'3" and 250 pounds.

like I said before.. I got the VTX1800 to DOWNSIZE....
goldwings from 1975 to 2005... 3 GoldWings.

the VTX1800 is almost a sport bike.... I even hang-off on mine
its been on the Mid-Ohio sports car course.. aka Sport bike Track days....

nothing like passing a kid on a 600 on the outside .. dragging a knee..

with and old fat bike.. and an older fat TALL rider.
aka,,,, I am North of 65 years old...
look old, ride young..


FYI ,, on the seat.. my bike has its stock seat...

and I am OK with it ... 86,000 miles of it.
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I am still new to the VTX scene. But I’ve owned both, 1300&1800.

I’m 6’0, 275(ish) lbs.

1300 classic (carb) big windscreen and a trunk.

Pros, comfortable, great exceleration, enough for two adults two up( sort of), nimble at speed,

Cons, carb, smaller tank, felt top heavy at parking lot speeds ( light enough to move by hand)

1800 Neo Retro, stock with after market windscreen.

Pros, stout( heavy yet balanced, at all speeds), big tank, FI, lots more power, lower seat highs& more room to stretch out.

Con, I haven’t found any yet, I’ve only ridden 300(or so) miles since purchase. There are things that need addressed, but that’s why I’m here.

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+s Reliability, looks, not as difficult to work on as some, this forum, it fits me, I have made mine comfortable, mpg, plenty enough torque, top speed is enough to get monetary penalties even in west Texas, I think it is a great handling motorcycle for a cruiser.

-s plastic that looks like chrome, must take off the passenger seat to remove the rider's seat, battery a pain to get to, seat is a pain to reinstall unless you do the mod, headlight runs through the start button but most do and there is a fix for it, I'd like to have a hydraulic clutch.

I'd say the negatives are somewhat minor
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Its probably been said before but the brakes (or lack thereof). A second disc would have been nice. Lots of go but not enough whoa. Classy looking scoot, aint it.
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Its probably been said before but the brakes (or lack thereof). A second disc would have been nice. Lots of go but not enough whoa. Classy looking scoot, aint it.
Interesting...I think the 1300's brakes are decent, never had problem with... Maybe with passenger?
Buy an 1800 and problem solved...


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