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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 05-01-2019, 11:34 AM Thread Starter
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Bike Totaled? Teen Drivers

Was riding yesterday was a great sunny Seattle day and the car in front of me went past my turn so I started the turn was leaning into the turn and the car in front of me decided that he missed his turn. He cut back as hard as he could, but since I was already in the turn, when I slammed on the brakes the bike went down and slid across the pavement. I am sore and bruised but otherwise ok.

The bike, however, is not. I thankfully installed the crash guard last week. But the bike still took a lot of damage. Batwing, right turn signal, right forward controls, saddlebags, rear fender, and exhaust all scrap.

The teen driver was insured but pricing repairs its about 2500 in parts alone, not including labor.

It also doesn't include diagnosis on why the engine will start but only in neutral and when I put it into gear it immediately shuts off.

I am afraid the teen's insurance company is going to total the bike.

Thoughts suggestions? Should I try and buy the salvage title from the insurance company if they total it? Rebuild, Part it out?
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post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 05-01-2019, 12:29 PM
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Everyone is pleased you got through this alive.

The damage does not look bad enough to part out.

I would keep it and fix it.

I have friends who build bikes from buckets of parts.

For a hobby.
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Dang, that sucks but glad you are okay! That's what matters the most.
I am very surprised that the teen stopped and admitted fault. Very very unusual. (which is why I carry a dashcam in every vehicle, including the VTX - people are liars and a**holes)
Even if the insurance totals it, you can still buy the bike back and get it back up and running again, no?

As for the engine dying in gear, I'd suspect the KS safety switch (I'd suspect the bank angle sensor but that one works independently of the transmission). But Hans will be here shortly to give you much much much more information on troubleshooting etc.

Again, glad you're okay. Sorry about the bike but we'll buy you a new one (cuz we all will have to pay for the teen's f**k up)
Hope you're not sore too long. Feel better.

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Insurance companies blow

So in Washington state, you don't legally have to have insurance on a bike. But I have collision insurance on mine, I'm coved if I hit someone, not if someone hits me. Figuring that if someone hit me I'm covered by their insurance.

Well since I dumped the bike before I ever actually Hit his car. Geico is saying they owe me nothing. They are not paying for the bike to be fixed. I dumped the bike, he did not hit me even though he cut me off.

WTF>>>>>>>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

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Looks like mostly cosmetic damage. The start/shut down issue, first place I would look is the wires to the kickstand switch.

Glad you survived.

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Glad your OK. Thats what counts..
The bike will work itself out in time...
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Stupid part about it. I literally just wrapped my exhaust the night before the accident.

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So in Washington state, you don't legally have to have insurance on a bike. But I have collision insurance on mine, I'm coved if I hit someone, not if someone hits me. Figuring that if someone hit me I'm covered by their insurance.

Well since I dumped the bike before I ever actually Hit his car. Geico is saying they owe me nothing. They are not paying for the bike to be fixed. I dumped the bike, he did not hit me even though he cut me off.

WTF>>>>>>>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
You have his info. Take him to court. He pays up, or you sue, and will get his $$ either way.
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Right side damage and will not Run in Gear.
Are you putting the kickstand UP before putting in gear???
Sometimes the thought process gets discombobulated when something happens.
Will it crank with KS up??? (Clutch lever operated + KS up)
Other than that G forces may have damaged the switch/wiring or popped open a connector
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Right side damage and will not Run in Gear.
Are you putting the kickstand UP before putting in gear???
Sometimes the thought process gets discombobulated when something happens.
Will it crank with KS up??? (Clutch lever operated + KS up)
Other than that G forces may have damaged the switch/wiring or popped open a connector
I had kickstand down and clutch pulled in won't start if not in neutral

Kickstand up, clutch pulled in, in neutral it will start

Kickstand up, clutch pulled in, in 1st will Not start

so no matter what will only start in neutral, once you try and shift into gear it immediately dies

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