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Thanks Zym! Nice write up of your mods!
Re seat: Did you cup under the sit bones or just dish the whole seat out a bit? Curious on what you trimmed?

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Thanks Zym! Nice write up of your mods!
Re seat: Did you cup under the sit bones or just dish the whole seat out a bit? Curious on what you trimmed?

Thanks again!
Seems like a little sculpting off the back where it rises (electric knife) and shallowed it out a bit (disc sander). I didn't remove more than one inch anywhere. I referred to an old post on this site and used that for a guide but I couldn't tell you now who posted it. All I know is what little material I took off the foam at the right places made a big difference!

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Thanks Zym. That is helpful.


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Did you buy a used factory seat to do your modding to? I'm sure you can find one for $50 range, it will allow you to take your time and still be able to ride. Then you can sell yours to recoup the cost.

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JPT. That is a good idea. Thought about buying one but honestly didn't think about selling mine later. I might have to do that!


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JPT. That is a good idea. Thought about buying one but honestly didn't think about selling mine later. I might have to do that!
If you are going to do the build, essentially you just need the pan, so you can buy one that is in not so good shape to save money. You will have to recover the seat anyways, so you can buy one with cuts...

Then when you sell yours, as long as you sell if for more than the beat up seat, you come out ahead.

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Update - Seat Mod

Thanks to Xerothermic for spurring me to give an update. The seat is not complete yet but close. When its done I will post some pictures.

Back in June I started modifying my seat. I purchased a stock spare while I am working on this one.
Cut out the foam and made a temporary cover with some "clearance special" outdoor fabric. I took the cover on and off multiple times to get the seat dialed in. I have new material to make a cover. It is extremely functional and cooler than the stock vinyl. I have done a 1000 mile day and only stopped because I was back home, my rear was not sore or uncomfortable at all. I have plans for 2500 miles in two days coming up and have NO worries about seat comfort. Here are a few pics of the first part.

I am not totally done with it yet but it is 90% complete. I ended up taking all of the foam out of the center of the seat. I left the edges so that I had the basic structure still there. I then I did one layer of firm and 2 layers of medium Sunmate foam. On top of that I put a layer of pudgee. https://www.sunmatecushions.com/ (look at the clearance items, its how I bought mine)
It took a lot of cutting trimming and shaping and re trying and more trimming, shaping etc. But I am very happy with the comfort of the seat overall. I still have to make an actual cover. At the moment I have a piece of the fabric I am going to use stapled on but it is not "fitted" yet. I am using a 3d spacer mesh. It is a very durable mesh fabric. Under that I have a layer of waterproof mattress cover fabric. It is a stretchy waterproof fabric (think baby crib mattress cover). This layer may change to vinyl depending on how it looks durability wise when I make the final cover. By that time I will have been using it for a few months and over 5000 miles. I will also be using a 1/4 foam for smoothing between the seat foam and the cover. Overall it is a medium difficulty project. Cost wise I probably have $150-175 in it right now and a LOT of hours.
Suggestions: When cutting the foam make it a lot bigger then you think and trim it to fit once it is in place. I had to do a bunch of infill because I cut it to small.
Personally I would go this route again, although it obviously is not for everyone to tackle. I have not done the passenger seat yet but that should be a lot easier. I ended up buying a second seat and used that to cut up etc. I am keeping my original seat just in case I need it in the future.
If you are someone who likes to figure out puzzles and make things this is a great and very doable project, if not finding a used ultimate, mustang etc would put you in the same ball park cost wise.
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Thanks to Xerothermic for spurring me to give an update. The seat is not complete yet but close. When its done I will post some pictures.

Back in June I started modifying my seat. I purchased a stock spare while I am working on this one.
Cut out the foam and made a temporary cover with some "clearance special" outdoor fabric. I took the cover on and off multiple times to get the seat dialed in. I have new material to make a cover. It is extremely functional and cooler than the stock vinyl. I have done a 1000 mile day and only stopped because I was back home, my rear was not sore or uncomfortable at all. I have plans for 2500 miles in two days coming up and have NO worries about seat comfort. Here are a few pics of the first part.

I am not totally done with it yet but it is 90% complete. I ended up taking all of the foam out of the center of the seat. I left the edges so that I had the basic structure still there. I then I did one layer of firm and 2 layers of medium Sunmate foam. On top of that I put a layer of pudgee. https://www.sunmatecushions.com/ (look at the clearance items, its how I bought mine)
It took a lot of cutting trimming and shaping and re trying and more trimming, shaping etc. But I am very happy with the comfort of the seat overall. I still have to make an actual cover. At the moment I have a piece of the fabric I am going to use stapled on but it is not "fitted" yet. I am using a 3d spacer mesh. It is a very durable mesh fabric. Under that I have a layer of waterproof mattress cover fabric. It is a stretchy waterproof fabric (think baby crib mattress cover). This layer may change to vinyl depending on how it looks durability wise when I make the final cover. By that time I will have been using it for a few months and over 5000 miles. I will also be using a 1/4 foam for smoothing between the seat foam and the cover. Overall it is a medium difficulty project. Cost wise I probably have $150-175 in it right now and a LOT of hours.
Suggestions: When cutting the foam make it a lot bigger then you think and trim it to fit once it is in place. I had to do a bunch of infill because I cut it to small.
Personally I would go this route again, although it obviously is not for everyone to tackle. I have not done the passenger seat yet but that should be a lot easier. I ended up buying a second seat and used that to cut up etc. I am keeping my original seat just in case I need it in the future.
If you are someone who likes to figure out puzzles and make things this is a great and very doable project, if not finding a used ultimate, mustang etc would put you in the same ball park cost wise.
Can you show pictures of the built up foam. The pictures just look like hogged out OEM foam - am I missing something?
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sring - I will post some more pictures when I take the cover off again to actually "fit" the cover. Unfortunately I dont have pictures of the foam at the moment. But I wanted to give an interim update.


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