Calling me an "HD Hater" might be civil in canada, but where I come from that is extremely rude and inappropriate. Perhaps they don't teach manners in Canada?
If you want to debate technology in motor design that is fine with me. I don't see how one can support push rod valves and air cooled motors as "advanced technology" or somehow superior (or even equal to) liquid cooled motors with overhead valves. It really doesn't matter if yamaha or even BMW makes it. hell, even the oil cooled motors are not worth the investment IMHO (this was one of the tricks Victory and BMW tried).
This is a useless debate though - I don't respond to people who are pro nostalgia motors in general because I am not going to change their mind. They can post up their love of all things antiquated and its cool with me. I wont have someone bully me into not speaking my mind because they don't like it though. Still, if you want to have it then I am open to discussing horse power, longevity and overall cost of maintenance or however you think you can present the air cooled push rod motor as technically equivalent to a a liquid cooled overhead valve motor.
Well, if it's your mind you've been speaking ... then carry on. It's not a debate about motor technology. It's not even a debate. It's about digging on people for liking something you don't. I've said it many times, you don't have to like it, just leave others to their own instead of stating opinion as fact.
If you felt bullied, well for that I am sorry. I think if someone was trying to bully anyone it was you, but as I disagree, I never saw it as such to me personally.
Like what you like, hate what you hate, no matter to me. Continue to fling insults at those that like what you hate and hate what you like. Your choice, again no matter to me. I was just wanting to keep it civil.
Calling you what you present yourself as can't be rude, it's honest. If you felt insulted, well then again, I'm sorry for that. It was never intended as rude, only as descriptive. I'm not sure how someone who makes every attempt to impart anything derogatory on one particular brand, can feel being called a hater is rude. If your honesty is not rude, why is mine?