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Honda already does it better and cheaper. Nobody is going to pay the inflated HD prices for those bikes.
I agree. Honda and the others, too. The demographic Harley is trying to target lately, grew up on Need For Speed kind of video games and don't care about the Harley name and won't pay the premium for it. They (also) don't care about Harley branded pirate costume or Harley gatherings/events with old farts. So, why would they pay the premium for a new (to Harley) style bike, when they can get it cheaper from an experienced manufacturer?
(It's a little bit similar to Lewi's jeans. 30 years ago there were Lewi's stores in Europe (and in big tourist destination cities in the US). And they could sell Lewi's jeans on premium price, because Lewi's was/is good quality and everybody wanted to have... (in Europe for sure). Now, younger generation doesn't know and doesn't care about Lewi's.)


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I agree. Honda and the others, too. The demographic Harley is trying to target lately, grew up on Need For Speed kind of video games and don't care about the Harley name and won't pay the premium for it. They (also) don't care about Harley branded pirate costume or Harley gatherings/events with old farts. So, why would they pay the premium for a new (to Harley) style bike, when they can get it cheaper from an experienced manufacturer?
Harley's way of marketing won't work selling these new models. Harley is famous for no price tags hanging on the bikes in the showroom. Hiding the prices and high prep charges until you sit down with a salesman too see the final cost, you need to be sitting down for the price sticker shock lol. I can image at Harley events people will just look at the bikes and won't have any interest buying.
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Harley's way of marketing won't work selling these new models. Harley is famous for no price tags hanging on the bikes in the showroom. Hiding the prices and high prep charges until you sit down with a salesman too see the final cost, you need to be sitting down for the price sticker shock lol. I can image at Harley events people will just look at the bikes and won't have any interest buying.
The 2 dealers we have here do post prices on the bikes. The Honda shop actually does not, at least not on all of their floor models. You need to track down a salesperson to get the info. The Harley dealers will even post an "out the door" price. This has been common here for a while now. I suppose, different regions, different policy.


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Could some one tell me about the pros and cons of the dark side? I am not sure if a car tire is safe?
LOL ... you wanted liquid cooled and overhead valves ... LOL
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I like the Bronx 975. The Pan American odd looking, I don't think it will sell well in the U.S.

The type that ride these kind of bikes don't care about ugly. Just about every sport adventure bike is ugly as sin. Hell they use tool boxes and gun cases for saddle bags, so ugly don't count..
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I would take this over the Bronx any day.


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LOL ... you wanted liquid cooled and overhead valves ... LOL
Fill yer boots brother.
But what oil should I use?


Oh, and I have a dying need to know a way to strengthen my Highway bars?

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But what oil should I use?


Oh, and I have a dying need to know a way to strengthen my Highway bars?

Only use Harley oil and Harley Bar-Crete.
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Only use Harley oil and Harley Bar-Crete.
But wouldn’t the hd oil leak and stain the hd bar Crete?

We might be safer if we only did that on dark side bikes. With helmeted riders. Who do burn outs.
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