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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 07-13-2009, 01:39 PM Thread Starter
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bike won't shut off

Hey guys and gals I'm new at this, so bare with me. Been owning my 02 vtx C model since 02 and have close to 40,000 miles. About a month ago i was getting ready to ride, but looked at all the clouds here in sunny florida and decided to put it back in the garage, but when i went to shut it off the bike kept wanting to crank even when i turned the key off. I disconnected the battery and left it for a couple of days and then went back and re-connected the battery. Everything must have reset and had no problem until yesterday when it did it again. I tried tapping on the starter and the switch to see if maybe something was stuck and once again I had to disconnect the battery. Can anyone tell me what the heck the problem may be. Much appreciated and ride hard, but safe.
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post #2 of 43 (permalink) Old 07-13-2009, 01:52 PM
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My guess is your starter switch may be fried

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The solenoid switch is bad. It's located behind the left side cover.
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Yep. starter solenoid. replace with Honda for $$$$ or pull old one and go to NAPA or AutoZone or similar and match up one from a lawn tractor.

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Don't assume that the push button switch on the handle bar is good.

Check it with a tester before u put it all back together.

Its going to be the Solenoid or the push to crank button.

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If it is still cranking after you turned off the engine that means the starter was engaged (turning) while the bike was previously running = not good for the starter. Listen closely after it starts - you can hear the starter turning over, behind all the engine/exhaust noise (it'll sound "different").

If it does happen again, tap on the solenoid (behind left side cover) with a wrench - it'll likely break the contacts (that are internally stuck) and it'll stop turning over. This is a lot faster than trying to disconnect the battery.

The solenoid is getting stuck, in the first place, because the starter is drawing too many amps. This can be caused by a weak battery as the starter draws down the battery voltage, the amps soar high enough to 'fuse' the internal contacts together in the solenoid. Poor battery connections can contribute/cause this also.

Although a new solenoid may stop this for a while because the contacts are fresh (smooth and clean). The problem will likely return until the root cause is corrected (new battery w/ cleaned, tight connections).

I had the same problem and dicked around with everything (soldered all wire connections, temporarily doubled up on wire cables, added grounds, installed heavy duty truck solenoid, swapped out a new starter, cleaned all connections, etc.) before coming to this conclusion. Nothing 'solved' my problem until I replaced the 1 year old battery, and the problem stopped. If your problem persists -- well, you know my advice.

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post #7 of 43 (permalink) Old 07-13-2009, 05:23 PM
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Sticking contacts in the starter relay

I went exactly the same route as Todd2. After changing the starter motor I finally bought a new starter relays and a good battery. No damage to the Starter Sprag Clutch. Problem solved.

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Use caution when replacing your starter solenoid with a car solenoid. Gasoline engine solenoids from cars can have an internal wiring difference that makes them unacceptable. Use a Diesel engine solenoid for your replacement. See my post on this topic "Darkside Starter Solenoid". https://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227486

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post #9 of 43 (permalink) Old 07-21-2009, 10:56 PM Thread Starter
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Hey thanks for the replies I received on my starter problem.
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post #10 of 43 (permalink) Old 07-22-2009, 10:06 AM
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I replaced the stock solenoid with a Standard Ignition SS608 solenoid. Its a heavy duty model, made for some GMC and Dodge V-8 trucks. I did have to modify the wiring slightly to match up, but its been working great for years now. I just chose a BIG solenoid that had two connections (not 3 or 4) for the small wires (and of course the two large connections for the battery cables). This didn't create any problems for me.

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