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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 11-27-2018, 06:03 PM Thread Starter
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Hi there, had the bike for about 4 years now.
I have recently changed the tires, front one is now a 140, not 150 since they did not have the one I wanted in 150.
I started to feel that the front is a little loose, compared to what it was before.
I am not sure if it is coming from the tire being narrow, the road being worst than before (I ride the 405 daily) or the forks that might need new oil.

It feels as if the handlebar is loose, mostly at low speed. I can hear a clunk as well (probably from the forks). I do not know if I need to adjust the steering stem, if there should be a reason why it could get loose. The bearings seem fine after testing them while on the lift.

I checked to make sure the front tire was centered and it is according to the spacer mark.

If i end up changing the oil, should i add a little more to make it stiffer, or should I use a heavier oil instead?

What are your thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old 11-27-2018, 06:16 PM
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1800 right ?

Year.. and mileage ?

I just rebuilt my front end.. at 83,000 miles.. I bought the bike NEW.

do not change the amount of fork oil.. you can go heavier.. I did.. to 15 weight.

you MIGHT have a bad front tire.. or not mounted true/center.
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^^^^Like Chuck said- start by telling what year, size, VTX you have, assume it's an 1800 since posted in this section, what kind of tire, what pressure is in it, was it balanced, is the front brake dragging at all, are/ were your fork tubes wet to indicate oil leaking out, when were your rear shock bushings replaced last? Not many issues with 1800's needing neck bearing attention.

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Thank you guys.
It is an 1800R, 2004. 48,000 miles on it.
Metzeler tire, no drag on brake pads. 40psi (maybe 3
Changed the rear bushings about a week ago, as I thought that might be the culprit as well.
I have the rear shocks on 2 (only weight about !65 lbs) thinking of changing it to either 3 or 1 and keep playing with it.
Forks do not seem to be wet.

It could be me, that just now starting riding more. I moved to Texas, used it for two years, and moved back to Cali (but only rode it a few miles to work in TX), now I have to ride it 45 miles and the 405 is a mess anyway. So in part it could be that I am now feeling the difference in distance and road.
Do not feel the looseness when going fast, only at slow speeds.
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I run 40 front and rear... ..

with front wheel in the air.... rotate forks from one end of travel to another.. THEN with handlebars true center.. try to force the front wheel forward then rearward...

feel if any movement in the steering head bearings... may need the bearings re-torqued.



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Chuck, what do you mean by rotate forks from one end of travel to another?
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Chuck, what do you mean by rotate forks from one end of travel to another?

like when you make tight turns in parking lots... I guess Lock to Lock..


Sorry,, old school... 50 plus years of servicing motorcycles..
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If you are going to change the oil in the forks anyway,,, I would highly suggest getting a set of Progressive springs and installing them at the same time. I did this a few weeks ago, and the difference in the ride in amazing. It will be another $90 or so, but you'll already have the tubes opened up anyway, if you are replacing the oil. As stated above, you can change the weight (15# instead of 10#) but don't change the amount. You'll increase the likelihood of blowing a seal. And unless you take them completely off the bike, you won't be able to get ALL of the oil out. I bought a small hand pump, and pumped the oil out into a container, marked how much, then replaced the same amount with the new oil. You will also need the specialty tool for the left side (if you remove the springs).
Good luck,,,, and let us know how it went.

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The Progressive springs cleared up my sloppy front end and noise.
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Chuck, will do that today.
If I feel any movement, what should be the next step? I am pretty good with a wrench.
Thanks again.
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