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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 03-04-2013, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
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Broken shift return spring 06 1300c

I finally got started taking my bike apart after having a shifter issue.After taking off the exhaust,draining the oil and taking off the right crankcase,I found a metal part in the remaining small pool of oil.The shift return spring had broken.I took off everything I needed to,found a dealer that had the part in stock,and have the bike back together.A cold ride around the block shows everything working properly.Just need spring to get some warm miles on the bike.Thanks for the few who gave advice
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Glad to hear you got it fixed. Now quit banging on that shifter....lol. We are hopefully gonna get some warm weather this weekend.....65 plus degrees. Ride safe safe travels....

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Probably a first. I cannot recall this happening to anyone on this board...

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I think I have the same problem..... 2006 1300R VTX under 40,000 miles. Just started today on the way to work. I found that 4.5 gear (false neutral) and heard a growl. I can shift down into 1st. Then 2nd is no problem with the heel. To shift into 3, 4, 5 I have to put light pressure as if I was going to down shift to get it to heel shift into the next gear. With the motor off, I can work the heel / toe by hand and it is REAL floppy. There is a lot of play going fore & aft. The local stealership service department said he had never heard of this problem. I'll try taking all the external parts off to clean and lube, when I get home tonight. I hope I too do not need to crack the engine case to replace this 'Spring Shift return' <--- referenced in the parts list.

Reading the quick fix and watching the video on how to clean lube and rebuild the shifting lever, I'll see if it works.

Update. Got home, put the bike up on jack stand where I could get to everything. Pulled the dust boots back one at a time. Washed the grease and slime out of each one. Wiped often while spraying. Looked polished. Packed with grease. Even took the pivot bolt off where the heel / toe shifter attaches to the frame. Cleaned, polished and greased. No change in my problem. I can still down shift and shift into 2nd no problem. To shift into 3, 4, 5 I still have to put a little pressure down on the toe to shift with the heel. Any other ideas? Thanks in advance!!
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With a broke spring the shift lever is sloppy, does not return to a center position, so to speak. I really dont understand shifting with toe pressure using the heel shifter. Personally I think the heel shifters tend to abuse an otherwise easy to shift transmission, I hardly use mine but how does it shift just using the toes.....???

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After I shift into 2 or 3 or 4 to get it into the next higher gear, I have to touch the toe shift down enough to get the heel shifter into position to depress it to shift.
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Yep, sounds like the clutch cover needs to come off for an inspection. If you have cleaned and lubed all the linkage and pivot point on the heel/toe shifter with no success...do those first.

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I hope I too do not need to crack the engine case to replace this 'Spring Shift return' <--- referenced in the parts list.
I believe the shift return spring the OP was referring to is external. It is right where the cable lever enters the engine.

Have you checked your clutch cable? Little strands can start to fray and get stuck, causing problems. I doubt it's your internal clutch springs - you would just be slipping.
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Redneck temporary fix

I put a small bungee cord around the engine crash bar to the front end of the heel toe shifter. It returns the shifter in the normal position between shifts. It worked! So now to review the shop manual for replacement of the return shift spring. As stated above, the right case comes off to access the spring. Hope it is that easy to get to. Have to remove the exhaust pipes just to get to the engine case. Yea! Do I really want to do it myself.... I'm medical and pseudo mechanic....
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I believe the spring the OP was talking about is #10 on the parts fiche.
http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_sectio...05&fveh=132384

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: li, align: left"]010[/TD]
[TD="class: li, align: left"]SPRING, SHIFT RETURN
24651-MCH-000[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

03-04 service manual page 10-13.
Also another return spring on the stopper arm part #8 on the fiche.

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