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post #41 of 53 (permalink) Old 08-11-2019, 04:04 PM
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Also check the plastic nut on the backside of your choke, to make sure that it is not loose
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Just for fun, and giggles, next time you ride, and get back home,remove the air cleaner housing, .When it gets cold, remove the float bowl, very carefully, not to disturb the float, and see if it is stuck in the up position, if it is, you found your problem. If that is the case, find out why it is stuck, and fix it.
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Just for fun, and giggles, next time you ride, and get back home,remove the air cleaner housing, .When it gets cold, remove the float bowl, very carefully, not to disturb the float, and see if it is stuck in the up position, if it is, you found your problem. If that is the case, find out why it is stuck, and fix it.
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Parts should be here soon. Until then, I've been watching some vids on youtube from good sources (actual techs) and they talk about polishing the Float Valve Needle Seat. They both used Q tips chucked in a drill. One used PB Blaster to clean. Shane Conley had an actual set of various sized brushes for aggressive cleaning. I noticed when I had the carb apart, and looked at the seat, it looked "dirty" for lack of a better term or maybe marked. It wasn't shiny. I sometimes wonder if I should attempt to clean it. Anyone here ever done that??


Am I correct that the float valve needle seat is not replaceable? I saw somewhere a VTX Carb Kit online . It appeared to have a seat with an O ring. Is there a fuel strainer tied into this as well? So I'm wondering if it is replaceable. I was up to Partzilla but didn't see a seat or strainer.


Having said all this, I'm wondering if a dirty seat is part of the problem I'm having. As long as I have it apart, maybe attempt to clean it.

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Keep the Q-tip away from the carb.

Someone within 6 weeks found a cotton ball in their 1300.
Fibers came off while rubbing probably.

Wire, spray or air only.

Read past threads.

Look at MR VTX CARB 101

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Keep the Q-tip away from the carb.

Someone within 6 weeks found a cotton ball in their 1300.
Fibers came off while rubbing probably.

Wire, spray or air only.

Read past threads.

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Just found the Carb 101 yesterday, thanks. I did clean the seat with a Qtip chucked in a drill with some cleaner. Shane Conley teaches his tech students this method so I felt confident in doing it coupled with the fact I was very careful in blowing it out with air from both sides, inlet and seat side coupled with a lots of carb cleaner and more air. Lots of air. I let it dry and blew it out some more. Fibers aren't so small you can't see them where you can, if you take the time to look. I was concerned about fibers from the onset, but if Conley has done this for years I thought I'd try anyway with careful follow up cleaning. If he was having issues with fibers, I think he'd discover that years ago and stop doing it. If a person is careless in follow up cleaning after using them, sure I imagine you could run into trouble. I did get crap off and the seat is as shiney as ever. Looks much better than before. When I get the parts, I'll blow it out some more and see what happens. If I blow cotton balls out the tail pipe I'll have learned a lesson. Had I read your post before I did it, it would have given me pause to reconsider. But, it's done and I'm hoping for the best! Hopefully being extra diligent in followup cleaning will be the key. I would not use Qtips anywhere else on the carb. But a wet Qtip in that seat area only seems safe enough. We will see.

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I canít help but think you are not on the right track. Iím no expert, just a backyard wrencher like yourself. But the float needle allows gas into the bowl, correct? Even if the needle was stuck closed, shouldnít there be enough fuel in the bowl from your last ride to start the bike?


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I can’t help but think you are not on the right track. I’m no expert, just a backyard wrencher like yourself. But the float needle allows gas into the bowl, correct? Even if the needle was stuck closed, shouldn’t there be enough fuel in the bowl from your last ride to start the bike?


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You would think so. I pulled the bowl off before I cold started it one time and there was just a tablespoon that drained out. Not much. Then I think, vacuum on the fuel valve but once the bike does start (after much fidgeting) there's no issue with fuel flow. It always reverts to the bike sitting and getting cold.

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No go! New float/float needle.......Same old issue. I'm at a total loss at this point.


It started. Rough. Died. Gave it a little choke. Started. Throttled, rough, die, no restart.


I took the top of the carb apart yesterday when putting in new parts and the boot/rubber is fine, needle fine. Everything in the carb is either new or freshly clean and looking good. It strictly a cold start issue. When I got it together yesterday, it ran great as I mentioned above.


I just don't get it. Runs great once I can get it started. But a big no go on cold start.


What is it in cold starting that is doing this? Choke assbly issue?


I've got the A/F turned out 2 turns from 2 1/2. Leaned out. Is it choking on too much fuel? But runs OK when hot. Crank it down to 1 1/2?


Right now I feel pretty defeated. Dang!

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Since I bought my 1300C with the exception of a few weeks one summer, I have always pulled out the choke fully..

Never a problem. After it is running then I push it in where the choke is still providing high idle. Take off then after hitting 3rd or 4th gear push knob in..

Read the owner's manual?

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