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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-05-2019, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks again for everyone's responses, I ask again for everyone's forgiveness as I have not worked on any engine in over 10 years and have forgot even the basic troubleshooting.

It turned out to be the 10 amp ignition starter fuse, I replaced it with the spare hit the start button the bike turned over after that I proceeded to put everything back together.
Once everything was assembled I hit the start button go for a ride and nothing... The fuse was blown again.

Took the 10 amp fuse out for the headlight put it in started the bike Let it run for a few minutes turned it off and started it again.
Not sure what I'm dealing with here, when I ever hit the start button the headlight goes out as it should.

Am I looking at badd starter switch assembly that's causing the starter Ignition fuse to blow?

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Take the starter button apart and clean it up and grease it again
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From the How To board;
https://www.vtxoa.com/forums/73-how-...itch-mtce.html
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>>> Let it run for a few minutes turned it off and started it again.<<<< IT cranked/ran or fuse blew again???

Not much on the starter switch that can short out.

Any mods?? Handlebars??

Yellow/Red wire from Starter switch to 9 pin RED connector to Starter Relay terminal.

Shunt slides from Headlight contacts(+12v and wire to Dimmer switch) to Starter Relay contacts (+12v and wire to starter relay).

Black/White wire feeds the Starter Switch and the Ignition coils.

Black wire from fuse feeds Kill switch and Ignition Control Module(ICM) AND 2003 ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP.. <<<PRIME SUSPECT<<<
All the wires mentioned here are on the 9 pin RED connector fed by IGN/Start fuse.

Inspect wiring, look for loose or exposed wire,move it while IGN ON not running.
Turn the HB full travel..

Fuel pump also has a relay.. Disconnect it to see if fuse trouble goes away.
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>>> Let it run for a few minutes turned it off and started it again.<<<< IT cranked/ran or fuse blew again???

Not much on the starter switch that can short out.

Any mods?? Handlebars??

Yellow/Red wire from Starter switch to 9 pin RED connector to Starter Relay terminal.

Shunt slides from Headlight contacts(+12v and wire to Dimmer switch) to Starter Relay contacts (+12v and wire to starter relay).

Black/White wire feeds the Starter Switch and the Ignition coils.

Black wire from fuse feeds Kill switch and Ignition Control Module(ICM) AND 2003 ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP.. <<<PRIME SUSPECT<<<
All the wires mentioned here are on the 9 pin RED connector fed by IGN/Start fuse.

Inspect wiring, look for loose or exposed wire,move it while IGN ON not running.
Turn the HB full travel..



Fuel pump also has a relay.. Disconnect it to see if fuse trouble goes away.



Went for a ride tonight no problems, stopped for dinner got back on the bike and continued our trip, stopped in a parking lot and was talking to my girlfriend and the bike died...ignition fuse was blown again, I had 4 extra fuses with me, every time the bike was about to start the fuse blow.

1 time the bike started and I got 20 feet and the motor died...because I can see no exposed wires and there is no repeatable conditions I am leaning towards the fuel pump as the culprit via advice above.

As soon as I find the issue I will post all related info to help the next person, thanks again guys for your help
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is this guy bypassing the fuel relay? can some one explain what he has done?


I am trying to find any way to fix my bike so I dont have to load the monster on a trailer again (still sitting in the parking lot where it died) I am on my way now to see if the relay is in fact the problem, I will also take fuel line with me and see if i can by pass the fuel pump.
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It is a video of an 1800 with no fuel pump prime. I had to look up the poster to verify 1800.


Remove the FP power connector.

Remove hose from the petcock to the fuel pump.

Cut the hose from fuel pump to carb far enough back to swing the cut end to the petcock.

You should now have a hose from petcock to carb.
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It is a video of an 1800 with no fuel pump prime. I had to look up the poster to verify 1800.


Remove the FP power connector.

Remove hose from the petcock to the fuel pump.

Cut the hose from fuel pump to carb far enough back to swing the cut end to the petcock.

You should now have a hose from petcock to carb.
Put a new fuse and tried to start the bike fuse blew immediately, disconnected fuel Relay bike started up immediately ran until fuel in the bowl went empty.

I'm going to try and bypass The fuel pump.
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Bypass is complete, Bike started up I let it idle for a bit and revved it a few times it seems be getting adequate fuel so hopefully I am done &#x1f601;&#x1f601;
I'm just guessing that the fuel pump was going badd and drawing too much voltage and/or the relay.

Thanks again for everyone's help
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Lol I drive the bike to a gas station top off the tank drive home turn the bike off for 5 minutes while waiting for my girlfriend and now I'm not getting any fuel.
I suspect the fuel line might be level with the petcock.
At least the original problem has been dealt with.
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