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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-18-2019, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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Bike just stopped

I was sitting at a stop light I was about to take off and the by just stalled, I hit the start button all that happened was the lights would dim.

The lights are all bright the radio works, I even tried to push start it.

It seems like for a month now that it's had trouble starting I hit the start button and as a delay and it seems to struggle turning engine over, Since this is my 1st VTX 1300 between I assumed this was normal.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-18-2019, 10:30 PM
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Clean the start button
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post #3 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-18-2019, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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I guess I'm dealing with the notorious starter switch problem? Whenever I hit the start button now the headlight just goes completely out.
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The Starter switch does dual function to OPEN the headlight circuit to provide a few more amps for cranking. The HL goes OUT.

Grease + dirt + time = poor connection.

There is a PDF for lube and clean starter switch > Rattlebars originated the info.. Look in Step by Step board.

Has your Tripmeters reset??

Clean and tighten battery terminals.

Have a voltmeter to test the charging voltage??

How old is the battery??

I use this to find things most often> Google "vtxoa: starter switch" many responses should appear.

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I found this video on how to clean the contacts on your start button hope this helps you

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post #6 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-20-2019, 09:02 PM
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I had this problem once on my old 1996 VT1100, I had just put the battery in after winter storage. It appears the screws holding the battery leads were not tight. Use a wrench or socket to tighten battery terminals as Hans & Feet said.
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thnx for replying guys,

I have not tested the battery because all the lights are bright and there is not even a clicking from the silinoid or any attempt to start.


I cleaned the switch per the video and still no change. I did have corrosion (see middle pic) but if you look at the picture of the top of the switch with the wires it looks like the connection may have corroded (see first pic) inside the plastic. has anyone ever tried rebuilding that?
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Looks like corrosion on the Black/White + wire. The Yellow/Red goes to the Starter Relay.
Clean it with some baking soda and a tooth brush.
VERIFY in NEUTRAL >> If you take a wire or something bridge across the contacts for the above wires.
Starter relay should operate if the IGN switch is on and you bridge the contacts.

Is the "shunt" moving freely??
The shunt is a sliding bar that makes a connection across a pair of contacts.
This sliding bar can move up or down a bit in case the contacts move some from being hot.
Sometimes a knife has to be used if plastic melted on the shunt carrier.
Stretching the spring a little may give it the tension it needs.
My brother in law's cleaning did not fix his Starter Switch, trimming plastic fixed the problem.

Use a non-abrasive cleaner to clean the contacts.
Kitchen cleaning pads are good.
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The shunt is in fact working, the battery is fully charged and my attempt to jump the connection via the start switch did not turn the engine over.

At this point I'm going to assume no signal is getting to the solenoid or the solenoid is bad.
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Put the Tranny in Neutral, on the STARTER RELAY short the Battery Terminal to the Starter Motor Terminal(both are the large cables)
Some sparks when you make the connection and engine should crank. An old screwdriver is good.

Another possibility is the GROUND line of the Starter Relay.
Neutral Switch and when in gear with the kickstand UP, and clutch lever pulled you should get starter relay activity.
Neutral light ON???

Is the wire with the corrosion still connected to the copper button???
Wire could be broken and the tar/RTV stuff could be holding it to the switch.
Do you know if the Black/White wire has voltage on it???
Test light or volt meter???

I had a battery that died suddenly. First crank in the morning was good. Rode 60 miles and parked. 30 mins later no crank.
Lights were good. They are not the brightest in the daytime. A bump start and on the road again. A stop at an auto parts place.
The only battery was for HD and VTX. Another bump start and headed home. Bought a new battery, the old tested 12 amps on a load,
more than that and it flat lined. That is why the headlight was kind of ok...

Another thing I remembered, when I went pushed the starter button and released it, the headlight would not come on.
I had to recycle the IGN switch to see the headlight again.

Starter/IGN fuse??? Checked/replaced it???
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