Thanks Pogo. I just started doing those type. Ive done the regular flames and "ghost flames" but these caught my eye. It took me a few weeks to get the hang of it but I'm still trying.I am planning on keeping the bike black and putting the realistic type on. No 2 are alike when you do them so it gives each bike a one of a kind look. There is a lot of candy coats used and they really light up when you get them in the sun.