I have noticed H-D has been for the last several years releasing new model information on the coming new year model right after Sturgis bike week. The new 2020 models will start arriving at dealers in the coming weeks.And, just by the way, how can you buy a 2020 model in 2019? Smoke and mirrors,
I ran the numbers, it cost no more to maintain my Harley than it did to maintain my VTX.Harley's never impressed me, my son rides a Heritage Softail. Besides the cost to buy and the cost to maintain, there is the reliability Also a Softail requires the oil tank and filter change plus a purging process requiring removing lines and cranking the engine. Then there is the transmission. Just my observation.
Harley's never impressed me, my son rides a Heritage Softail. Besides the cost to buy and the cost to maintain, there is the reliability Also a Softail requires the oil tank and filter change plus a purging process requiring removing lines and cranking the engine. Then there is the transmission. Just my observation.
Spike you might be right on Honda not helping trip breakdowns. When leaving the motel in the morning, three times in the last 6 long trips, a Harley rider was being left behind while he was waiting for someone to pick up his bike. I felt bad for him as his party pulled away.
Last year when I was filling up a HD rider pulled in filled up and asked me to give him a push when he was going to pull out. His clutch cable failed and it was hard to take off shifting into first. I understood his problem and helped him.
Yup, the discussion is an old one on the Harley boards. There are purge systems available for the touring bikes and dynas as well. If you understand how a dry sump engine works you will understand that there is no way a full liter (quart) is left behind. Not only are you purging, but also flushing to a large degree. I don't know of anyone doing that with their VTX. Do you think it's necessary? No manual I am aware of, states any concern for any residual oil in the system on an oil change. Did you know that in used oil analysis, most engine oil still has substantial life when it's changed? I would not argue the process if one got a new to them bike where the oil was disgustingly dark, but there are bikes where the process is either impossible or difficult. There is rarely, if ever, any concern for those bikes and the "dirt" that is left behind.Harkon, I may be wrong about this, watch this to the end. If you don't purge 1/3 of the oil is in there from the last change. My son wasn't that mechanical, so he just paid the price for the oil change.
Spike, I do agree with you on that.
I think to some degree all of the new electronics and fluff is to the detriment of marketing. All of this wizz-bang high tech costs money. These bikes already cost enough. I wonder if they offered a stripped down basic model, at a proportionate price, if they might realize that most people don't want to pay extra for a lot of this tech. Unfortunately they make basic models less appealing by making the price dis-proportionate to features. They, of course, want to sell the loaded models.I happened to be at old fort harley yesterday, just passing time on a rainy saturday. No bikes on the floor when I got there. I found out they were bringing out the new models so I waited a few minutes to see them. From what I saw they have some new colors and some new features such as tpms,a hold,, keeps it from rolling when taking off on an incline, a form of traction control. No I wasn't paying close attention, I was in pain and heavily medicated, that's another post. I like the new colors and I can see the electronic upgrades will appeal to some . The subscription service for the mobile app for security and tpms and gps locater might be a good thing.