Thanks for the post on the map this will indeed give many an easier start for their PC3. I love your ride absolutly bad a$# bike you have what cam work did you have done in addition to everything else to get that power out of it?

 

Thanks, much appreciated........Cam timing was changed to produce the most torque possible at 3500 - 4000 rpm, where we live most of the time. Here's the set-up:

Intake Exhaust
Stock timing 111.5 degree 107.75 degree
Mine 109 degree 110 degree

Cheers,
Cliff

 

Well let me say also wow nice bike love it. Will those numbers work down here in texas also?

 

Thanks brother..........Texas, no problem - that maps good on Mars!
Cheers,
Cliff

 

Very bad a$$ bike.

Thanks for the post

 

Here's a dumb question, Where do I get the map and How do I load it?

 

Here's a dumb question, Where do I get the map and How do I load it?

This helped me understand how to.

 

Beautiful bike! How did you get 2000cc?

 

This helped me understand how to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI4iAeYckVQ&feature=related

Will this work for the old style PCIII? (not USB)

 

Will this work for the old style PCIII? (not USB)

Yes the RS-232 has the same communication capabilty as the usb, not as fast and/or versatile. You just create your own map and play with it, hit and miss without a tuner. More power less gaz mileage you can trade back and forth.

 

OMG...:shock:.I loaded this afternoon and just got back from a nice little run down the xpressway. What a difference...feels like I have 10 more ponies.

Thanks so much:mrgreen:...and I really like your bike as well.

 

Glad you liked the map, the 2000cc kit was built for me at MotoSpeed in Sweden.........Here's the deal on fueling a motor, it has two power curves. We load her up in the mid range (the torque zone) then we start pulling fuel out as she revs towards her final 'rpm centric' horse power zone. "Rich in the T zone, lean in the HP zone" - simple and proven. Worked just as well on my Muzzy Kawasaki ZX1270, which I tuned 9 yrs ago - makes 200hp at speed.
Cheers,
Cliff

 

wanna send me that map?

 

Quick follow-up note for folks not so familiar with this mapping stuff. When we produce 'maps' they are really just overlay maps adding to or reducing the fuel flow of the original Honda map in the ECU. My map can't hurt a motor as it only adds fuel, it doesn't take any fuel away, so you cannot run leaner then you're stock Honda map. Just because you see 0's in the high rpm quadrants doesn't mean the motor is getting no fuel, it is, from the stock map, I'm just not adding any more because it's already too rich in most cases......Don't be afraid to try this map if you have aftermarket 'free flow' pipes and an air intake system, it cannot hurt your motor only help it.
Cheers,
Cliff

 

Map

Somebody please save this to the "HowTo" Site.. It answers exctly just what I have been troubling over in my decision to get new pipes and a PCIII.
I know I will save it...

Thanks Cliff,

J

 

Many have asked me why the VTX map is rich up top. Simple, the factories have to lean most motors down in the low-mid range to clear the 'emissions police'.....To compensate, they enrichen the map up top where there is limited emissions control.
Cliff
P.S. - The earlier posted sled is my latest passion, it's a 325hp (n2o) 1000cc two stroke Bombardier Mach Z - 150mph ice racer. The thing on the back is a parachute!!

 

Cliff,

Pardon me for being so dense, but are you saying that I don't need to set anything other than "0" for the intermediate map RPM's like 750, 1250, 1750, etc.?

Thank you sir!

Mark

 

Cliff,

Pardon me for being so dense, but are you saying that I don't need to set anything other than "0" for the intermediate map RPM's like 750, 1250, 1750, etc.?

Thank you sir!

Mark

You will have to change those cells also to be consistant with the map suggested.

 

No problem sorry for not catching this...........The PC3 used back in 2003 did not have '250rpm quadrant fuel flow over rides', only per 500rpm, that said, you simply apply the next 'upward' number to the 250 opening. In other words - if my numbers call for a change at 2500 from 2000 rpm then you introduce the 2500 number at 2250 etc etc.
Best of success,
Cliff

 

Thanks Cliff, I appreciate the guidance!

Mark

 

No problem sorry for not catching this...........The PC3 used back in 2003 did not have '250rpm quadrant fuel flow over rides', only per 500rpm, that said, you simply apply the next 'upward' number to the 250 opening. In other words - if my numbers call for a change at 2500 from 2000 rpm then you introduce the 2500 number at 2250 etc etc.
Best of success,
Cliff

I orginally left the numbers at "0" and the bike ran fine. I really like the map and the bike runs very smooth until I get up around the 3000 + RPM range then I hear a miss that has plagued me for a while, even before the map change. I guess I'll have to so some research to see what may be causing that miss. If you have any suggestions let me know. Thanks again for the map...it's great.

 

Hey Cliff,
I know for those that go with after market pipes and air filters/air boxes that fuel economy is not what they are worried about but what MPG could be expected when using this map? If we assume stock is 40mpg, what MPG will this map yield in relation to stock? Will it be way less efficient or only a little less efficient?

 

Good question.........Probably same gas mileage (depending of course on the wrist action) motor doesn't work as hard and the decel curve is insignificant in the real world, unless of course you're at the drags.
Cliff

 

i have a quick ? on my map list there is one with nothing but 0s in it would it run dont think it would be efeciant though i loaded map above to its kick azz:thumbup: i am also courious about milage also on this map

 

0's everywhere is a stock map, no changes in the 'overlay map'.
Cliff