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I thought the flange bearing problem was exclusive to 1800's, I guess that's not correct. FWIW, Putting my first set of new tires on the bike is how I discovered that I had to replace my flange bearings at 8000 miles - rust was, or seemed to be the cause. I was able to buy the bearings and the spacer w/o the flange from the closest Honda dealer. I did not replace the flange with one of Jons, probably should have but that was almost 7 years / 40,000 miles ago with no more problem. I do keep the splines moly pasted real good, and lube/coat the axle before putting it back in every time it's off, and keep it away from pressure washers.
 

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The early 1800's had the problem for the most part. Several 1300's, not many.
Check flange bearings when rear tire replaced.

I just replaced my flange bearings at 189, 518 miles.
One was notchy, the other felt ok but did not spin as nice as the new ones.

Stay calm.

I an not sure of the sequence of events of the OP, but something fell.
Flange has a snap ring that holds it on the wheel.

Now I'm paranoid, I have a 2003 1300 with 17,000 miles on it. spindle bearing went bad on my Dakota but that was obvious. should i look for metal shaving on the ground or hear grinding when I roll the bike? or do I need to remove the rear tire?
 

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Now I'm paranoid, I have a 2003 1300 with 17,000 miles on it. spindle bearing went bad on my Dakota but that was obvious. should i look for metal shaving on the ground or hear grinding when I roll the bike? or do I need to remove the rear tire?
If you have winter downtime, as part of your winter maintenance, I suggest pulling the wheel. You will want to clean off the moly paste from both the final drive and the wheel. You can then check the bearings at that time. Then remoly the splines before putting the wheel back on.

If you notice the flange bearing isn't smooth, either replace, or contact Jon and do the upgrade.

I did mine, on the spare wheel I bought when I went darkside. The wheel I bought, the flange bearing was rusted, and wouldn't even spin. My factory bearing was fine. Now, if I need to swap wheels, I will also swap the upgraded flange to whichever wheel is on the bike. It takes <5 mins to switch between wheels.
 

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Now I'm paranoid, I have a 2003 1300 with 17,000 miles on it. spindle bearing went bad on my Dakota but that was obvious. should i look for metal shaving on the ground or hear grinding when I roll the bike? or do I need to remove the rear tire?
Remove wheel, look at flange bearing, then put your finger in there and turn the bearing.

If you see problem, replace them.
If the bearing does not turn smoothly, replace it.
 

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Remove wheel, look at flange bearing, then put your finger in there and turn the bearing.

If you see problem, replace them.
If the bearing does not turn smoothly, replace it.
LOL...reminds me of a certain Gieco Commercial...:thumbup:
 

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Heres' a pic of the flange bearing. Balls exposed. Pieces of race in the grease I cleaned out. It's so strange I never noticed any grinding when pushing the bike in and out of the garage. The bearings are very hard to move. Grinding to the max.


You won't feel it on the bike. The flange bearings carry little to no load of the bike. The wheel bearings do that. The flange bearings just support that hubs weight. That's why you check them with the wheel off the bike and spin them with your fingers ;)
 

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Now I'm paranoid, I have a 2003 1300 with 17,000 miles on it. spindle bearing went bad on my Dakota but that was obvious. should i look for metal shaving on the ground or hear grinding when I roll the bike? or do I need to remove the rear tire?
I was a bit paranoid too, wondering and waiting. But no need to be if you do your due diligence. If I were to start all over again, I would of just pulled it even while it was working and send it to Jon. Get the reworked piece and your good to go. It's very little money if I look at what else I spend money on, it's nothing. Then, you can have piece of mind and absolutely NO paranoia! Jon has a great reputation and fast to get your flange out the door. My thought is, you never know when Jon may stop doing this. If you wait for your bearing to pop and you find out he's not doing it anymore......then it's happy hunting for a machinist to do it. I would just do it now. Peace of mind. In my way of thinking, it's well worth it. I wish I had done it long ago. Get er done!
 

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Now I'm paranoid, I have a 2003 1300 with 17,000 miles on it. spindle bearing went bad on my Dakota but that was obvious. should i look for metal shaving on the ground or hear grinding when I roll the bike? or do I need to remove the rear tire?
Don’t be. Very few have issues, if you want to be prepared simply get a spare off eBay, can usually be had cheap.
A kind of forum mass hysteria sometimes happens with these things, don’t take it too seriously
 

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Spent the entire afternoon farting around with the X. The "new" flange is installed. New rings on the flange and below. I think I'll replace the dampers next time the wheel comes off. The new tires are mounted with Ride-on in them. Polished the wheels while they were off. Took it out for a test spin and everything appears to be OK.

Thanks gents for your help!

Now, it's time to ride after being down so long. Rain for the next 2 days.
 

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Thank you for all the responses, I have what the doctor refers to as tall guy back, I'm 6' 4, so leaning over the bike working on for long periods is not doable for me so I'm going to buy a lift.
These are the 2 I'm looking at any experience or suggestions?

https://www.garageappeal.com/dannmarmaxjaxmotorcycleadapter.aspx

https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-capacity-motorcycle-lift-68892-8495.html
The Danmar looks great, do you already have the $2,000 lift system that it attaches to?!

I would lean more towards the HF lift table. No experience with either one, just the HF motocycle/ATV lift
https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lbs-capacity-atvmotorcycle-lift-61632.html?_br_psugg_q=atv+lift
I used this on my ATV for years before I got back into motorcycling, although mine is the older "yellow" one
 
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