I hope this may help. If you can not get anyone to help you
in your area try the main tech board. They are alot of guys that have
done there on many times. They can help walk you thru any problem you may have.
I am going to adjust my own next time.
Good luck. 8)
greywolf, did you get those valves adjusted yet? technically speaking, it's a fairly simple thing to do. your just checking tappet clearances. the difficult thing is getting to them. seat and tank removal, three cover plates and your there. anyway, i can give you a hand with it, but it will be a couple of weeks and it will have to be on a sunday morning. i am no mechanic but neither can i afford the prices at a motorcycle shop either. i have done my own maintenance on my bike since day 1. let me know if you still need to get it done.
OK, I don't have a 4mm wrench of any kind. Went shopping. No find. Where the hell you get a 4mm wrench?
Closest I've found is my buddy's got an SAE ignition wrench which is about 1/1000 smaller than 4mm. It will probably be "good enough" but it leaves me wondering...
My buddy has everything, almost! I wanted him to clip the feeler gauge I bought like the article says, and drill a hole in it so I could put a string on it. He didn't want to do that to my new gauge, he pulled an old one out, cut it, bent it, and it already had the hole in it from being in the index. On to the job!
OK, the only way to get the 4mm wrench is in a 10pc ignition wrench set. A guy who is really into tools at the sears shop, and knows their catalog, went through it with me, and unless you know of a part number, that's the only way to get it.
I went to advance auto parts, no joy. Walmart. Also, two parts stores that sell a pretty wide range of tools among them, no joy.
Snap-on has one in an ignition wrench set, ~$170. Only ten times more than craftsman.
OK, what other tools do I need to work on this bike? I have a box full of SAE tools, however almost nothing except a set of metric sockets. And a single metric allen wrench that got the valve covers off my old Virago. I don't remember the size of the one I have, but it doesn't fit the bolts that hold down the back seat strap thing.
i don't remember, but i may have had to buy the 10 pc set.
as far as other tools well, of course all metric. this list isn't all inclusive because i am pulling this off the top of my head right now but for the valve job you are going to need a 12mm socket or wrench for the fuel tank bolt, seems like a 10mm hex for the seat bolts, i think an 8 or 10mm wrench for the valve covers, about a 6 or 8mm hex for the timing cover plate and a 17mm socket for the timing cover internal cover and it seems like a 15 or 17mm bolt for the timing shaft bolt. you will need to remove a spark plug from each cylinder, don't remember what size that takes.and of course the 4mm wrench for the tappets. and the feeler gauges.
obviously you are gonna want to get all of your own stuff, but if you would like to borrow what i have for this job i would be willing to loan them to you. pm me with a phone number if thats what you want to do.
I'm in Massachusetts. It would probably be easier to borrow from my friend a 1/4 mile down the road for this one job. He's a machinist who has more "stuff" in organized & useful condition than I've ever seen, even for a full highway dept tool & parts corral. He has multiple milling, drill press, 3D CAM system, etc. machines. Motors to convert 110 single phase to different voltages & 3 phase for the various motors. Box after box of power tools, pneumatic tools, torches, grinders, saws, you name it, really. The bad part about seeing him is you never get out of there in less than an hour. You have to see all the projects, etc. Which is fun, but doesn't get my jobs done before dark. ;-)
Thanks for the offer! I do want a set for myself for the long term. I was working on that with the Virago, but got distracted by the X when the virago threw a con rod bearing. That will get a new(er) engine in the coming weeks, and a new owner one way or another. The Virago was a great first bike, but a bit small for my frame. I heft it around a whole lot easier now that I've gotten used to moving the X.
yeah, that would be a haul to loan you those tools. i guess it threw me off being on the south carolina board. anyway, good luck with the job and although the first one is gonna take some time it gets easier and quicker with subsequent adjustments.
This week I bought tools, and started the job this afternoon. Got partway into it, and noticed a sticker on the rear fender over the battery box, has been hiding under the seat. And emissions control sitcker, or something to that effect.
I about died. Now I gotta go dig up the owners manual to double check, cuz there is a heap of difference between that and what the online instrux say. My manual agrees with the online, so I'm off to finish, but what a frightening thought. Just ruin your engine with bad numbers "you got off the internet."
Absolutely. And they certainly didn't do it when I took it in at 600. They are thieves. They did'nt wait long enough for it to cool to have done the job, and never told me about that part.They'll never see the bike again at that dealership. And I'm going to think twice about giving other dealers the chance at doing anything.
i think there are a lot of us that feel that way. you have a very useful tool right here at your finger tips to find out how to do a lot of things to your bike that will save you a ton of money. and you get to know your bike a lot better also.
Funny thing is, at the Yamaha dealership, I felt much differently. Very small, family shop. The chief wrench was probably wrenching on the first bikes. He was great, except for his pessimism. "Probably not worth fixing" -- that attitude toward my 86 Virago. He did take it as far as it was reasonable to go when the conrod went. I can tell he really loves bikes, riders, seeing people really know their bikes, etc. He would go over the engine diagrams and explain what he was looking for or working on.
I bought a newer engine for the virago, and a friend and I are working on the swap now. But I felt very comfortable with the Yamaha service shop. He encouraged me to do some simple things on my own, gave me hints, even offered to lend/give me one of his sawed off allen wrenches for one of the hard to get at valve covers that was leaking.
But I don't get that feel at all at my honda dealer. The service shop feels just like the car dealer service shops around here. Bah!