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give married couples incentives $$ to stay married

give the kids $$ incentives to stay in school until they get college degrees

To me, this comes across as written by a guy who is fond of MORE government intrusion and intervention. My own preferences are more weighted towards "a BEST government is one that governs the LEAST as practical". YMMV.
 

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give married couples incentives $$ to stay married

give the kids $$ incentives to stay in school until they get college degrees

To me, this comes across as written by a guy who is fond of MORE government intrusion and intervention. My own preferences are more weighted towards "a BEST government is one that governs the LEAST as practical". YMMV.
Maybe those incentives could be in the form of tax breaks...
 

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This season of life right now is very challenging... the Enemy of this World is dividing us in order to conquer. :crying: ~M

 

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send afghans back...thats a good ol american bigot for you. the shooter was born in ny. most of the mass shootings in the good ol usa are committed by caucasians. your color doesn't matter. hate for your fellow human beings is all that is needed for these atrocities to continue.
 

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thought it was already 'overthrown'

its been so tinkered with, the warranty has been denied

build a wall at mexico

send the afghans back

string up the drug dealers

execute the rapists

electrocute the child molesters

castrate the habitual thugs

give married couples incentives $$ to stay married

give the kids $$ incentives to stay in school until they get college degrees

end abortions period

make adoptions much easier.
send afghans back...thats a good ol american bigot for you. the shooter was born in ny. most of the mass shootings in the good ol usa are committed by caucasians. your color doesn't matter. hate for your fellow human beings is all that is needed for these atrocities to continue.
 

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send afghans back...thats a good ol american bigot for you. the shooter was born in ny. most of the mass shootings in the good ol usa are committed by caucasians. your color doesn't matter. hate for your fellow human beings is all that is needed for these atrocities to continue.
Or, in this case, being totally conflicted about being both gay and muslim. Which pretty much everyone knows is a moral impossibility for them..
 

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send afghans back...thats a good ol american bigot for you. the shooter was born in ny.
It seems in the case of radical islam and jihadists, blood is thicker than soil (to butcher phrase).

most of the mass shootings in the good ol usa are committed by caucasians.
Ummm...the Orlando incident was the largest mass shooting death toll in US history. In addition, 911 kill over 3,000 people and they didn't use guns. How many Caucasians were involved ?
 

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Or, in this case, being totally conflicted about being both gay and muslim. Which pretty much everyone knows is a moral impossibility for them..
it's not really morally impossible to feel that way if you think about it. people take scriptures out of context in all religions, then apply it to their life or the lives of others all of the time. Christian slave owners used the Bible to justify slavery for hundreds of years
 

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it's not really morally impossible to feel that way if you think about it. people take scriptures out of context in all religions, then apply it to their life or the lives of others all of the time. Christian slave owners used the Bible to justify slavery for hundreds of years
True but there is a difference between genocide and slavery....
 

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it's not really morally impossible to feel that way if you think about it. people take scriptures out of context in all religions, then apply it to their life or the lives of others all of the time. Christian slave owners used the Bible to justify slavery for hundreds of years
How does one take these koran verses out of context?

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."


"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

"It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

"And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

And that's just a sample.
 

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How does one take these koran verses out of context?

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."


"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

"It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

"And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

And that's just a sample.
So warm and fuzzy!
 

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Mateen is the son of Mateen. His dad and his upbringing has much to do with the conflict he endured in his troubled mind. Watch and see what the media does to his family. They are not without fault.

This country has opened its doors to a danger that will make 9/11 look amateurish. In due time, we will once again face dark days like then but a recovery may never come. The effect of 9/11 is still felt today.

America is on the verge of imploding. May be tomorrow or several decades and I'm no expert. I can feel it in the pit of my stomach. I feel it in the air. America has turned away from God and morality. What is wrong has become right. What was once depravity and inconceivable is now being praised.

I don't want to see any more of these terrible shootings that almost seem to be happening daily now. I'm sure there are things going on that does not make the news. Obama ain't stopping anything. He can't even say radical or islam.

We are all at the mercy of humans. Those are not the same humans many of us older people grew up with. You accidentally hit another car, they might kill you. You wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time, you may get hurt or die. You try to help someone in need, you could get sued. You brake down on the side of the road, you could be on your own.
 

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How does one take these koran verses out of context?

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."


"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

"It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

"And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

And that's just a sample.
It's a easy as butchering the Catholic Bible. And the imitation Christian bible. Just do with it as you please.
 

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It's a easy as butchering the Catholic Bible. And the imitation Christian bible. Just do with it as you please.
What the hell does that mean? "just do with it as you please?"

Sounds like more PC garbage, nobody is wrong everything is right if you feel it is. This country used to believe in right and wrong and when it was appropriate to take a stand. Then we started worrying about hurting people's feelings..........
 
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