Since Haveme1 and several otehr well know folks on this board have gone down and my close call with a cager turning left from a side street I have lost my desire to ride. I have been a biker for over 35 years and the joy I had for riding on the street is gone. When I got up this morning, I took my VT1300S for one last ride. I took it to the dealer and traded it in on (2) four wheelers, one for me and one for the wife. This afternoon we road them on my son's property and had the most fun we have had in years. Thanks to everyone on this site for the laughs, advice and experience.