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I Just put a set of E3's on and wondering how much scuffing I need before I take this thang out and lean it in a curve.I have heard newer tires want to slip don't need no road rash....
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I've been told 50-75 miles :? I like to go to a large parking lot and make lots of slow turns to get up the edges good 8)
 

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The dark black will give way to a charcoal gray as you scuff the carbon black off the tire. Should happen in under 100 miles. Make sure you give them time to warm up as that is a key to getting them to stick. Give us all feed back on your opinion of how they ride and last.
 
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LGE RAW said:
The dark black will give way to a charcoal gray as you scuff the carbon black off the tire. Should happen in under 100 miles. Make sure you give them time to warm up as that is a key to getting them to stick. Give us all feed back on your opinion of how they ride and last.
Will do, I have been told they should be great but you know how that goes.... I only got 8500 out of the stockies... hoping for lots more here.
 

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Firemanirfd said:
I always like to scuff mine with a little 220 before the first ride
doesn't help as much as you might like ...

the goop they put in the mold to get the tire out
again is a little impregnated in the rubber ... but as the
tire heats from riding that stuff comes to the surface and
is quickly worn off ... then its gone for good and you can
ride happy.

the other caution on new tires is that they need to seat
to the rim properly and that also requires some heat and
pressure, both provided when you actually ride the bike!

the best way to 'break in' new tires is ride carefully for about
a 100 miles (stay off wet pavement, paint, etc) and don't
do anything crazy ... even hard braking should be avoided
for a little while.
 

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Exile said:
the best way to 'break in' new tires is ride carefully for about a 100 miles (stay off wet pavement, paint, etc) and don't
do anything crazy ... even hard braking should be avoided
for a little while.
That's how I do it. Why waste time scuffing when you could be riding. Just take it a little easy at first, or do a hole shot! :lol:
 
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Just ride safe for the first hundred.
I run E3's front and back.
The key to longer tire wear is check pressure often.
 
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rayr said:
Exile said:
the best way to 'break in' new tires is ride carefully for about a 100 miles (stay off wet pavement, paint, etc) and don't
do anything crazy ... even hard braking should be avoided
for a little while.
That's how I do it. Why waste time scuffing when you could be riding. Just take it a little easy at first, or do a hole shot! :lol:
OK I am stupid..... "hole Shot" What is that??
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HOLE SHOT:
Drag racing term describes beating an opponent off the starting line and winning a race despite having a slower elapsed time. Other racers use this term to describe a good start or restart.
 

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truckeic said:
OK I am stupid..... "hole Shot" What is that??
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a fast way to blow a new tire off a rim ... if the tire hasn't
properly seated then if could literally come off the rim on
a hard launch!

and by 'seated' I mean that soapy goop that they used
to get the tire on the rim needs to evaporate and that takes
some time as there is not a lot of 'air' between the rubber and
the rim ...

but as the tire moves it heats up and that goop 'dries' and then
the tire 'sticks' to the rim nicely ...

sandpaper and burnouts do not help with proper tire seating.
 

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It isn't that compicated. A solution is used to get the tire to come out of the mold (I've been told silicone, but ??) anyway it makes the surface of a new tire a little slippery. When you take off down the road it quickly wears away. about 20 miles of stop/go traffic should take care of it as far as the straight line traction is concerned. For cornering just remember you have to wear it off, so be carefull at lean angles you haven't reached yet. after a day of riding you should be fine.


P.S. time spent on te VTXOA board will not help your tire at all!!
 

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Jon's1800VTXC said:
I've been told 50-75 miles :? I like to go to a large parking lot and make lots of slow turns to get up the edges good 8)
Ditto;
I just installed new tires and spent about 10 minutes doing slow speed circles leaning as far as I could without falling over
 

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I just picked up my bike from having a set of Metzler 880's installed. Man what a difference over the stock Dunny's. On 7K miles on them and they were cupping badly. I always check the tire pressure and even used the suggested higher pressure from the forum. These Metzlers are the SHIT!
I didn't think a 1/2 ton of metal and rider could handle so good.
 

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fer cryin out loud, just ride the dern thing!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

Like a lot of sportbike guys who do trackdays, I've mounted new tires to my bike and within a few laps of the first session been riding about how I'm gonna ride all day. :roll: That would mean knee on the deck around the turns, spinning the rear tire up on exits, and hard on the brakes into the turns :roll:

There's a combonation of scuffing them and bringing them up to temperature that goes on when they are new and ridden on for the first time. On a high performance sportbike, on the track, that's one thing. On a cruiser, it's just a cruiser. You're not gonna test the limits of a tire on a Vstar or VTX or Meanstreak :roll: It's a VTX, not a GSXR. Your average riding will do all it needs to do to get your tires scuffed and up to temp. No need for sanding them with 220g, cleaning them with lacquer thinner, lighting insence (sp?) and saying special chants over the new tires, or any other goofy stuff :roll:

Here's a pic of me on the old ZRX from a few years ago, on what were brand new tires at the start of the morning :roll:


Shot with NIKON D1H at 2007-07-07
 

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BDsbigZRX said:
fer cryin out loud, just ride the dern thing!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

Like a lot of sportbike guys who do trackdays, I've mounted new tires to my bike and within a few laps of the first session been riding about how I'm gonna ride all day. :roll: That would mean knee on the deck around the turns, spinning the rear tire up on exits, and hard on the brakes into the turns :roll:

There's a combonation of scuffing them and bringing them up to temperature that goes on when they are new and ridden on for the first time. On a high performance sportbike, on the track, that's one thing. On a cruiser, it's just a cruiser. You're not gonna test the limits of a tire on a Vstar or VTX or Meanstreak :roll: It's a VTX, not a GSXR. Your average riding will do all it needs to do to get your tires scuffed and up to temp. No need for sanding them with 220g, cleaning them with lacquer thinner, lighting insence (sp?) and saying special chants over the new tires, or any other goofy stuff :roll:

Here's a pic of me on the old ZRX from a few years ago, on what were brand new tires at the start of the morning :roll:


Shot with NIKON D1H at 2007-07-07
Taking a 1/2 ton of bike and rider into the twisties without wearing the tire in and warming it up is not on my to do list. JMO
 

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I'm actually ADVOCATING scrubbing them in and warming them up. I'm just saying you don't need to do it for 100 miles, or use sandpaper or anything like that, especially on a big, heavy, slow turning cruiser with no ground clearance :? It's not like you're going to run off the edge of the tires or something, LOL! Just ride it reasonably carefully for the first few miles (or rides), then treat the tires normally, the tires will take care of themselves.
 

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VTXKruser said:
I just picked up my bike from having a set of Metzler 880's installed. Man what a difference over the stock Dunny's. On 7K miles on them and they were cupping badly. I always check the tire pressure and even used the suggested higher pressure from the forum. These Metzlers are the :cus:!
I didn't think a 1/2 ton of metal and rider could handle so good.
I made the same switch 2 weeks ago and have been very pleased with them as well. They do handle better on curves.
 

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truckeic said:
I Just put a set of E3's on and wondering how much scuffing I need before I take this thang out and lean it in a curve.I have heard newer tires want to slip don't need no road rash....
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Im on my second set of E3's in 52 k. I scuff my tires the way I was tough some 50 years ago. Get a set of SAFTY eye glasses, a wire brush that will spin in a electric drill and scuff the new tires side to side. It will only take about 5 minutes of your time per tire. then they are ready for the hardest corners or riding you want to do. Another advantage is you have PRE- SCUFFED the tires for use as far as you can lean the bike in a curve. Also your E3's will give you some great traction, wet or dry. and if you ride the bike some what normal, you will get well over 20k per rear tire. Inflate tires to 40 to 42 lbs. And a great additive for tire balance, nail puncture repair, and help in longer tire mileage is a product called ride on.
WWW.ride-on.com click on motorcycles.
 
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