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I thought I had run into about everthing as far as road hazards go in nearly 40 years of motorcycles, but today I added one more to my biker book of experiences. Riding down the road @ 60 mph on the VTX coming into a sharp right hand turn and what do I see in the road? A guy is cutting his grass beside the road and blowing the grass from his mower directly into the highway. My side of the road in the turn is entirely GREEN from the center line in the middle to white line on the shoulder for a distance of about 30 feet, (I quess the length of his property boundary.) I kid you not, the road was green through the turn for a distance of about 30 feet! Years of dirt bike/motocross helped me remain calm and focused. Just like when you hit gravel in a turn, don't panic, steady as she goes, if it slips ride her out until she hooks back up! Wow!

You think about stopping and telling individual, but I know where that would lead to, :twisted: and if you call the cops they would ignore you.

Some people just don't have a clue and really don't give a damn about anyone else.
 

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Big Bubba said:
if you call the cops they would ignore you.
Because it's not a crime to mow your grass onto the roadway. We cannot help every person in this country that feels offended by another person. There just aren't enough of us to do so and most of the time we don't have any legal authority to do so.
 

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texascop said:
Big Bubba said:
if you call the cops they would ignore you.
Because it's not a crime to mow your grass onto the roadway. We cannot help every person in this country that feels offended by another person. There just aren't enough of us to do so and most of the time we don't have any legal authority to do so.
No but it is to put debris in the roadway that causes a hazardous condition. Construction company's have been cited in my neck of the woods for dragging mud onto roadway.

All it takes is a little common sense. The guy probably didn't give it any thought and evidently this case was extreme. It would take little on the part of a Leo to inform the guy of the potential hazard and mention possible civil liability if there were an injury that resulted from it.
 

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[quote="Big Bubba":2242t0e6]if you call the cops they would ignore you.
Because it's not a crime to mow your grass onto the roadway. We cannot help every person in this country that feels offended by another person. There just aren't enough of us to do so and most of the time we don't have any legal authority to do so.
No but it is to put debris in the roadway that causes a hazardous condition. Construction company's have been cited in my neck of the woods for dragging mud onto roadway.

All it takes is a little common sense. The guy probably didn't give it any thought and evidently this case was extreme. It would take little on the part of a Leo to inform the guy of the potential hazard and mention possible civil liability if there were an injury that resulted from it.[/quote:2242t0e6]

I wouldn't consider grass clippings that will dry up and blow away in an hour or two debris. Sorry you had to compensate a little to negotiate your turn. But your right, that mad man of a grass mower should have considered the consequences of his actions. Grass clippings are deadly :roll:
 

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I agree that the guy probably didn't even think about what he was doing, and this busy travel holiday the cops have their hands full with other things, but dang it, people need to use some common sense. This was a riding mower and he was right beside the highway laying all the grass on the roadway, not on his pretty lawn. I didn't have any options as I was in full lean in a sharp right hander, running on grass cuttings @ indicated 60mph. If you ever seen grass about a foot tall beside a small ditch, that was what he was blowing across the road. I was leaning and riding on solid green instead of black. And yes that affends me, because I don't want to end up in the hospital or the morgue.
 

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A friend of mine just went down last Saturday. He lives in the country and was riding home from work. He came to a sharp turn and slowed down as he has for years but this time was different. From the looks of things after the wreck it appeared that there was a film of hydraulic fluid covering the entire road surface.

A local farmer had sprung a leak and not noticed. As he traveled along he was slowly spraying a slick coat of oil all the way around the curve. The coat was so fine it didn't even look wet but one of the paramedics slipped and fell just walking on it.

My friend, Larry, has his kneecap broken into two pieces which are both pushed up near is thigh muscle. A little road rash and a trashed Venture. A sad end to his riding season.
 

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so did you slip?
I got a little loose and had to run out to the center line to catch up with it. This wasn't just some grass clippings like in a manicured and well kept lawn. He cutting high and tall grass beside a small ditch line and blowing it on the road. The road was green on my lane of traffic.
 

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srtscu said:
Mad Cow said:
texascop said:
[quote="Big Bubba":51pbbxyb]if you call the cops they would ignore you.
Because it's not a crime to mow your grass onto the roadway. We cannot help every person in this country that feels offended by another person. There just aren't enough of us to do so and most of the time we don't have any legal authority to do so.
No but it is to put debris in the roadway that causes a hazardous condition. Construction company's have been cited in my neck of the woods for dragging mud onto roadway.

All it takes is a little common sense. The guy probably didn't give it any thought and evidently this case was extreme. It would take little on the part of a Leo to inform the guy of the potential hazard and mention possible civil liability if there were an injury that resulted from it.
I wouldn't consider grass clippings that will dry up and blow away in an hour or two debris. :roll:[/quote:51pbbxyb]

In my township, after a snowfall and you're outside shoveling, you will get a citation if you toss snow from your driveway or sidewalk onto a public street; you have to keep the snow you shovel on YOUR PROPERTY. And snow melts, just as grass dries up and blows away. But while it's there, it can create a hazard, which is what the guy mowing should have thought about. And if someone was injured because of his clippings, a good personal injury lawyer would have had him wishing he would have thought it out a little better. Ignorance is not a defense.
 

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[quote="Big Bubba":1b55kpzi]if you call the cops they would ignore you.
Because it's not a crime to mow your grass onto the roadway. We cannot help every person in this country that feels offended by another person. There just aren't enough of us to do so and most of the time we don't have any legal authority to do so.
No but it is to put debris in the roadway that causes a hazardous condition. Construction company's have been cited in my neck of the woods for dragging mud onto roadway.

All it takes is a little common sense. The guy probably didn't give it any thought and evidently this case was extreme. It would take little on the part of a Leo to inform the guy of the potential hazard and mention possible civil liability if there were an injury that resulted from it.
I wouldn't consider grass clippings that will dry up and blow away in an hour or two debris. :roll:


In my township, after a snowfall and you're outside shoveling, you will get a citation if you toss snow from your driveway or sidewalk onto a public street; you have to keep the snow you shovel on YOUR PROPERTY. And snow melts, just as grass dries up and blows away. But while it's there, it can create a hazard, which is what the guy mowing should have thought about. And if someone was injured because of his clippings, a good personal injury lawyer would have had him wishing he would have thought it out a little better. Ignorance is not a defense.[/quote:1b55kpzi]

Oh yeah, that's the idea. Lets involve some lawhores and sue someone cause some of their grass clipping got onto the roadway. That's why this country is screwed up, too many lawhores and idiots that employ them for the stupidest stuff. Check out the news last couple of days, woman suing the company that makes the candy Starburst cause its too chewy. Yeah, that belongs in courts tying up the judicial system. Why not sue the guy who pulled off from the shoulder and unknowingly kicked up a rock that is later run over by a motorcyclist and crashes. How bout we sue the state road crews who paint those hazardous lane dividers on the pavement. Those things are slick when it rains. Hell, lets sue everybody that we think has ever slighted us or made a mistake that caused an inconvenience to us.:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

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srtscu said:
purelure said:
srtscu said:
Mad Cow said:
texascop said:
[quote="Big Bubba":3h7mk04i]if you call the cops they would ignore you.
Because it's not a crime to mow your grass onto the roadway. We cannot help every person in this country that feels offended by another person. There just aren't enough of us to do so and most of the time we don't have any legal authority to do so.
No but it is to put debris in the roadway that causes a hazardous condition. Construction company's have been cited in my neck of the woods for dragging mud onto roadway.

All it takes is a little common sense. The guy probably didn't give it any thought and evidently this case was extreme. It would take little on the part of a Leo to inform the guy of the potential hazard and mention possible civil liability if there were an injury that resulted from it.
I wouldn't consider grass clippings that will dry up and blow away in an hour or two debris. :roll:


In my township, after a snowfall and you're outside shoveling, you will get a citation if you toss snow from your driveway or sidewalk onto a public street; you have to keep the snow you shovel on YOUR PROPERTY. And snow melts, just as grass dries up and blows away. But while it's there, it can create a hazard, which is what the guy mowing should have thought about. And if someone was injured because of his clippings, a good personal injury lawyer would have had him wishing he would have thought it out a little better. Ignorance is not a defense.
Oh yeah, that's the idea. Lets involve some lawhores and sue someone cause some of their grass clipping got onto the roadway. That's why this country is screwed up, too many lawhores and idiots that employ them for the stupidest stuff. Check out the news last couple of days, woman suing the company that makes the candy Starburst cause its too chewy. Yeah, that belongs in courts tying up the judicial system. Why not sue the guy who pulled off from the shoulder and unknowingly kicked up a rock that is later run over by a motorcyclist and crashes. How bout we sue the state road crews who paint those hazardous lane dividers on the pavement. Those things are slick when it rains. Hell, lets sue everybody that we think has ever slighted us or made a mistake that caused an inconvenience to us.:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:[/quote:3h7mk04i]

I'm with Purelove on this one & yes my town here in Jersey has the same law... prolly statewide... anyway srtscu... I think your going slightly overboard & I somewhat understand where your coming from... the judge who sued the dry cleaner for $52 million... who lost... Thank God Gives me some hope in our judical system... but for someone to blow debris all over the road, hi-way, interstate etc. should be a giving a citation to say the least.... I do know your age but yrs ago the hi-way dept. used to use those side discharge mowers with twirling blades for hi-ways etc. You don't see those anymore & if you and your wife, girlfriend each on a bike went around a bend and your loveone hit the grass and went down and slid into an on-coming car... you would chalk that up as an accident only and move on with your life, knowing someone placed that debris on the hi-way?
Not me my friend...

Bubba... glad you handled it... love those yrs on dirtbikes :wink:
 

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I thought I had run into about everthing as far as road hazards go in nearly 40 years of motorcycles, but today I added one more to my biker book of experiences. Riding down the road @ 60 mph on the VTX coming into a sharp right hand turn and what do I see in the road? A guy is cutting his grass beside the road and blowing the grass from his mower directly into the highway. My side of the road in the turn is entirely GREEN from the center line in the middle to white line on the shoulder for a distance of about 30 feet, (I quess the length of his property boundary.) I kid you not, the road was green through the turn for a distance of about 30 feet! Years of dirt bike/motocross helped me remain calm and focused. Just like when you hit gravel in a turn, don't panic, steady as she goes, if it slips ride her out until she hooks back up! Wow!

You think about stopping and telling individual, but I know where that would lead to, :twisted: and if you call the cops they would ignore you.

Some people just don't have a clue and really don't give a damn about anyone else.
You need to ride with the mindset that EVERY turn and curve has hidden sand, oil, leaves, potholes, and people pulling out from blind entrances. Once you start doing that, you won't encounter surprises like you did today.

Eddie
 

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I thought I had run into about everthing as far as road hazards go in nearly 40 years of motorcycles, but today I added one more to my biker book of experiences. Riding down the road @ 60 mph on the VTX coming into a sharp right hand turn and what do I see in the road? A guy is cutting his grass beside the road and blowing the grass from his mower directly into the highway. My side of the road in the turn is entirely GREEN from the center line in the middle to white line on the shoulder for a distance of about 30 feet, (I quess the length of his property boundary.) I kid you not, the road was green through the turn for a distance of about 30 feet! Years of dirt bike/motocross helped me remain calm and focused. Just like when you hit gravel in a turn, don't panic, steady as she goes, if it slips ride her out until she hooks back up! Wow!

You think about stopping and telling individual, but I know where that would lead to, :twisted: and if you call the cops they would ignore you.

Some people just don't have a clue and really don't give a damn about anyone else.
You need to ride with the mindset that EVERY turn and curve has hidden sand, oil, leaves, potholes, and people pulling out from blind entrances. Once you start doing that, you won't encounter surprises like you did today.

Eddie
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I don't like sprinklers that spray on the roadway. Mostly cause it makes your car and bike dirty. I figure most of the time the people don't realize what there doing. I hate to think people are so busy with themselves they know there inconveniencing other people and just don't care. I'm afraid that just what it's coming to.
 

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Yanno...it was said that lawsuits n stuff are outa hand..and that is 100 DEFINITELY TRUE..I AGREE TOATALLY. But another thing that is outa hand is peoples LACK OF COMMON COURTESY!! When i mow, i make sure the chute is pointed away from the road, and away from other peoples property and cars, etc. They are my clippings, and i should be the one to deal with them.

In this case, no...the LE guys shouldn't go arrest the guy, but if they do see a road hazard, MAYBE they should just stop by for a second and maybe say something to the guy. A nice discussion might just cure the problem and make the guy aware of something that he really wasn't even awar of, or paying attention to...he probably never thought of motorcycles, etc.

As a regular citizen, someone stopping to talk to the guy is more apt to start an altercation and then the LE would be called to take care of THAT instead of just kindly asking the guy to go right to left instead of left to right when he's by the curb. It doesn't have to be a law, or an ordinance to be dangerous....and YES....i think when you're LE you have an obligation to act on such things when you're aware of them.

And don't answer back with a bunch of "you don't understand" or "it's not our job" or "we don't have time" or" It's not our deal to run lawn clipping patrol" ....i'm NOT in ANY way against Law Enforcement...as a matter of fact, it's quite the opposite. I've got LE in my family, and in my families history, along with military, etc..etc...etc. I understand public service, etc...and i don't by any means expect cops to be out running around worrying about people spitting on the sidewalk. I realize this isn't Mayberry anymore..but little things can help SO MUCH...and talking to a guy about grass clippings in a nice way could make a big positive difference in a few peoples lives.

Ok..now flame on...ROFL...just remember the 10 processing fee. :)

Just my opinion.
 

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texascop said:
Big Bubba said:
if you call the cops they would ignore you.
Because it's not a crime to mow your grass onto the roadway. We cannot help every person in this country that feels offended by another person. There just aren't enough of us to do so and most of the time we don't have any legal authority to do so.
FWIW, Actually in most townships in SE PA it is illegal to blow anything into a roadway, including snow, grass, leaves, etc....
 

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Big Bubba said:
You need to ride with the mindset that EVERY turn and curve has hidden sand, oil, leaves, potholes, and people pulling out from blind entrances. Once you start doing that, you won't encounter surprises like you did today.

Eddie
I get what you are saying. I know you have driven these WV roads too, I just never expected to see thirty feet of long, wet green grass blown into a turn on my side of the highway. We have had heavy thunderstorms for the last two days, so the grass was long and wet and slippery. I'll just chalk it down for a lesson learned. I managed to keep it just barely on my side of the road, but it could have been ugly for someone else.

Haveme1 has the best idea, "Give that man a sign."
 
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