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On June 11, WUSA-TV reported that a woman who had brought her stepson to a June 1 protest in Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square was joining a federal lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union against various federal officials over authorities’ alleged use of tear gas and unreasonable force against the proverbial “peaceful protesters.”

Police took action to disperse the protesters, of course, so that President Donald Trump could make his way to St. John’s Church.

“He actually said to one of his teachers, which is what prompted us to say hey he’s not handling this well, that there was a war, and that the government was trying to kill black people,” Toni Sanders told WUSA.

“At that point, I said to myself, ‘I, I can’t offer him comfort, because that is what’s going on.’ And it’s hard because you’re a 9-year-old. And this isn’t something that you should have to think about, this isn’t something that you should have to carry with you, but you’re carrying it with you.”

The suit claims U.S. Park Police used force that wasn’t commensurate with the threat.

As the narrative goes, police shouldn’t have been clearing Lafayette Square, anyway, since the president’s visit was just a “photo op.” Before then, it was apparently just basically a fun meetup in the park that got busted up by the feds.

On Wednesday, the Department of the Interior — which is responsible for the Park Police — countered that narrative with a bit of video footage showing just how peaceful those meetups in the park were.

Warning: The following video contains violent images and vulgar language that some viewers may find disturbing.


“The video shows agitators throwing bricks, glass, bottles, and other assaults against law enforcement officers,” a Department of the Interior spokesman told the Washington Free Beacon.

“More than 60 U.S. Park Police officers have been injured since these protests started, some hospitalized requiring surgeries.”

Is this something you should bring your 9-year-old to?

The video, according to the agency, was taken during protests before June 1, when authorities cleared Lafayette Square to give Trump a path to visit St. John’s Church. The actions taken by police were roundly criticized by Trump’s political opponents and media commentators, who have repeatedly characterized the ongoing nationwide anti-police protests as peaceful.

“The Park Police defended the decision to clear Lafayette Park, emphasizing the violence officers had dealt with in the days leading up to June 1,” the Free Beacon reported.

In other words, this wasn’t quite peaceful before the events of June 1 — and it definitely wasn’t the kind of place you should bring a 9-year-old.

In terms of participatory democracy for the family, this wasn’t quite bringing your kid to to the Presidents of the United States log flume at the local theme park. This was the kind of situation where chemical irritants and other forms of police force were very likely to be deployed.

While we’re at it, there’s some question as to what chemical irritants we’re talking about.

According to CNN, the Park Police apologized on June 5 for originally saying they didn’t use tear gas, but said that officers didn’t use what we’d traditionally call tear gas — artificial CS gas. However, they did deploy “pepper balls,” which used “natural” tear gas — in other words, small balls of pepper spray.

“As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, grab officer’s protective equipment, and even attempted to grab one officers’ weapon, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters, stinger balls, and pepper balls,” Acting Park Police Chief Gregory T. Monahan then said in a June 13 statement. “On June 1, USPP officers and other assisting law enforcement partners operating under the command of the USPP did not use tear gas or Skat Shells to close the area at Lafayette Park.”

The Secret Service meanwhile, says it deployed pepper spray, not tear gas. In a June 13 statement, they said they “released information stating the agency had concluded that no agency personnel used tear gas or capsicum spray during efforts to secure the area near Lafayette Park on Monday, June 1, based on the records and information available at the time. Since that time, the agency has learned that one agency employee used capsicum spray (i.e., pepper spray) during that effort.”

However, WUSA reporters who picked up canisters from the scene say they found CS gas shells among the debris, too.

Whatever the case may be, it’s clear that this wasn’t just a peaceful protest that went awry.

Part of the outrage is that this kind of gas could put “medically vulnerable” people at risk.

“People with lung disease, asthma, COPD, or young children can have long-standing harmful effects from this gas,” Georgetown University medical professor Dr. Ranit Mishori told WUSA.

So, why exactly were they there? This protest was obviously dangerous for them — and the crowd had been given an order to clear out.

I hate to be this blunt, but here’s a tip: If you’re in a protest that may turn violent and you have asthma or COPD, leave. These situations are often controlled by some form of chemical irritant — and if you have a condition that can be severely irritated by tear gas or pepper spray, you need to take care of yourself.

We’re at the end of the month of June and this happened at the very beginning, yet this incident has lived on in the background of the news cycle.

The lasting impression is that this was just some unregenerate use of force against a peaceful crowd that had every reason to be in the park. If this is demonstrably false, any reason to lionize these protesters goes away, as well.

When you assault police with projectiles and physical force, this is what happens.

 

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"Is this something you should bring your 9-year-old to? "
This is like a business owner proudly bringing his 9-year old to his company and telling him "if you work hard like I did this will all be yours some day.".
Compare this to bringing a 9-year old to a riot: "if you sit on your ass, do nothing you whole life but blaming others for your misery and vote for the democrats this will all be yours".

It is just a matter of a parent's perspective.
 

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Just what does the TRUTH have to do with anything??????? :ROFLMAO:o_O
 

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Newly released video shows protesters violence BEFORE infamous Lafayette Square clash.

Wait I am confused, this video shows protesters in the dark. Trump walked to St. John's Chruch, where he couldn't think of a thing to say, in BROAD DAYLIGHT.
 

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Newly released video shows protesters violence BEFORE infamous Lafayette Square clash.

Wait I am confused, this video shows protesters in the dark. Trump walked to St. John's Chruch, where he couldn't think of a thing to say, in BROAD DAYLIGHT.
Here, let me banish some of your confusion...

The Department of the Interior released new footage Wednesday of U.S. Park Police clashes with violent protesters outside the White House late last month, showing protesters repeatedly striking officers and hurling bricks and other projectiles at them.

"The video shows agitators throwing bricks, glass, bottles, and other assaults against law enforcement officers," an agency spokesman said. "More than 60 U.S. Park Police officers have been injured since these protests started, some hospitalized requiring surgeries."

The video, according to the agency, was taken during protests before June 1, when authorities cleared Lafayette Park to give President Donald Trump a path to visit St. John's Church. The actions taken by police were roundly criticized by Trump's political opponents and media commentators, who have repeatedly characterized the ongoing anti-police protests as peaceful.

The Park Police defended the decision to clear Lafayette Park, emphasizing the violence officers had dealt with in the days leading up to June 1.

From this link in the OP.
Washington Free Beacon.
 

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Here, let me banish some of your confusion...

The Department of the Interior released new footage Wednesday of U.S. Park Police clashes with violent protesters outside the White House late last month, showing protesters repeatedly striking officers and hurling bricks and other projectiles at them.

"The video shows agitators throwing bricks, glass, bottles, and other assaults against law enforcement officers," an agency spokesman said. "More than 60 U.S. Park Police officers have been injured since these protests started, some hospitalized requiring surgeries."

The video, according to the agency, was taken during protests before June 1, when authorities cleared Lafayette Park to give President Donald Trump a path to visit St. John's Church. The actions taken by police were roundly criticized by Trump's political opponents and media commentators, who have repeatedly characterized the ongoing anti-police protests as peaceful.

The Park Police defended the decision to clear Lafayette Park, emphasizing the violence officers had dealt with in the days leading up to June 1.

From this link in the OP.
Washington Free Beacon.
I don't have any issue with the police securing a path for the President. The issue for me was the aggressiveness (use of irritant gasses and rubber projectiles) of the process on an otherwise passive crowd there that day and that time. Using the excuss that something violent happened in that general area sometime in the past, by some other crowd,under some other condition, is something called PROFILING. Like saying everyone who rides a motorcycle is a 1% member of the Hell Angles!

There is a freedom of peaceful assemble guaranteed by the constitution just like freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. You do get into muddy waters though when an otherwise peaceful assembly is provoked into a disturbance by the police, which is what I saw in Layefette Park on the evening of June 1 (see Link) After all of that, President Trump could not think of a single thing to say! He just stood there waiving a Bible and then walked back to the White House. Just about the most pitiful demonstration of leadership I have ever seen.

A defense of profiling is no defense at all.
 

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Because they came prepared as a response to previous events ... that's profiling?

There are clearly two sides to the story, I'd submit that the truth of events lies somewhere in the middle. I find it had to believe the release of irritant gasses was simply to entertain. We see this demonizing law enforcement all too often these days without a full understanding of what actually did happen and the circumstances surrounding said events. Law enforcement, overwhelmingly, choose appropriate action in such situations. Unfortunately we only hear about when the wrong call was made, and if the correct, of appropriate action is taken, events and circumstances are changed to fit the narrative.

Maybe the takeaway from this should be, if you are asked to disperse, then maybe you should disperse, instead of making lives difficult and fighting back. If you intend to escalate situation, then that is a great way to go about it.

It's like when you hear a cop say, "stop or I'll shoot!". If you don't stop, you should be shot. Otherwise the law has no teeth, and you have what we have now, anarchy. You're not an anarchist ... are you?
 

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"It's like when you hear a cop say, "stop or I'll shoot!". If you don't stop, you should be shot. "

These days these thugs stop, but not to turn themselves over to the police. No, they stop to turn on their camera and CNN will find a one-second shot to 'prove' that the thug was a saint and the police officer must go to prison for the rest of his life.
 

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