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I just ordered some new stuff for my 1800n friday night. Got the Vance and Hines Big Shots exhaust, Hypercharger Pro-R, and the Power Commander 3. Along with some other chrome goodies and a windshield. I was looking at the maps for the power commander and found map "122-002 Retro, Neo & F model - Vance and Hines Bigshots (without baffles) and Kuryakyn Hypercharger." I read online that this map causes the bike to run lean, in the 17:1-17.5-1 range of A/F ratio. This makes me a little nervous if I should even try this map, and if not what else should i try? This one has all of the items that I am putting on my bike so I figured it should work the best. Also I have been reading up about the PAIR Valve removal. Since I am changing the stock intake to the hypercharger and they have me plug off the line going to the PAIR Valve, will using block off plates actually change the exhaust tone at all or reduce decel popping since I am already plugging the line off? I do know it is still recommended to remove the system at that point or I might get condensation to build up and have white smoke out of the exhaust, but if I do remove the system does it turn on the engine light because they have you unhook the electrical connectors and just secure them out of the way?
 

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I just ordered some new stuff for my 1800n friday night. Got the Vance and Hines Big Shots exhaust, Hypercharger Pro-R, and the Power Commander 3. Along with some other chrome goodies and a windshield. I was looking at the maps for the power commander and found map "122-002 Retro, Neo & F model - Vance and Hines Bigshots (without baffles) and Kuryakyn Hypercharger." I read online that this map causes the bike to run lean, in the 17:1-17.5-1 range of A/F ratio. This makes me a little nervous if I should even try this map, and if not what else should i try?
Where online, did you read that? If you're nervous of that map, don't use it. You can use any map and change them as many times as you want. You can find more maps here http://tech.bareasschoppers.com It should be known that these free maps are made for other bikes, not yours. As every engine runs different, any map may or may not be a good map for your bike. The BEST option is to find a dyno shop that uses a "Load dyno" and uses an air/fuel sniffer probe and makes a map for your bike and your mods. This will take several hours and cost around $250. But you will have a great running bike and will have no worries.

This one has all of the items that I am putting on my bike so I figured it should work the best. Also I have been reading up about the PAIR Valve removal. Since I am changing the stock intake to the hypercharger and they have me plug off the line going to the PAIR Valve, will using block off plates actually change the exhaust tone at all or reduce decel popping since I am already plugging the line off? I do know it is still recommended to remove the system at that point or I might get condensation to build up and have white smoke out of the exhaust, but if I do remove the system does it turn on the engine light because they have you unhook the electrical connectors and just secure them out of the way?
You should not just plug the line. Depending on where you live and if you ride in cool/cold weather, that line will fill up with condensation. Just remove the PAIR system and not have to worry about it. Removing it will NOT cause the FI light to come on
 

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Where online, did you read that? If you're nervous of that map, don't use it. You can use any map and change them as many times as you want. You can find more maps here http://tech.bareasschoppers.com It should be known that these free maps are made for other bikes, not yours. As every engine runs different, any map may or may not be a good map for your bike. The BEST option is to find a dyno shop that uses a "Load dyno" and uses an air/fuel sniffer probe and makes a map for your bike and your mods. This will take several hours and cost around $250. But you will have a great running bike and will have no worries.


You should not just plug the line. Depending on where you live and if you ride in cool/cold weather, that line will fill up with condensation. Just remove the PAIR system and not have to worry about it. Removing it will NOT cause the FI light to come on
I found it on this website, was posted back in 2007 http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?154940-Factory-PC3-map-for-V-H-bigshots-122-002. I'm not sure if there is a spot around here that does the custom map's on a dyno. I looked on the power commander website for the dyno locations and found one in town here but for the type of dyno they had it says n/a. Not sure if that means they don't have a dyno and just install the power commanders or if they do actually dyno tune. I will give them a call monday after I'm out of work I guess. Thanks for the respond!
 

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Ahh, that old thread. I wouldn't hold too much to that post. He was using a brand new tuner that may have been bad. He never said where he was getting his a/f ratios, if that tuner was reading wrong(a very high probability ) then he was reacting to bad info. He also was using the wrong octane fuel, 87 is all the VTX needs, premium does nothing for the VTX except foul plugs and combustion chambers(possibly another problem with that bike depending how long he had been using premium )

Try a different map and you should be fine :thumbup:
 

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I found it on this website, was posted back in 2007 http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?154940-Factory-PC3-map-for-V-H-bigshots-122-002. I'm not sure if there is a spot around here that does the custom map's on a dyno. I looked on the power commander website for the dyno locations and found one in town here but for the type of dyno they had it says n/a. Not sure if that means they don't have a dyno and just install the power commanders or if they do actually dyno tune. I will give them a call monday after I'm out of work I guess. Thanks for the respond!
Take a look here and see if any of these shops are within your range of travel. http://www.dynojet.com/dyno_centers/motorcycle_dynocenters_output.aspx?state=WI
 

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Thanks for all the help guys! Looks like there is a location about 1 1/2 hours away which wouldn't be to bad. Maybe I will run the 122-002 map until I can take it over there this summer. No just need to wait till i get all the parts to put on. Hopefully next week xD
 

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I'll be following this post, It will help me install my Power comander,

Thanks for all the help guys! Looks like there is a location about 1 1/2 hours away which wouldn't be to bad. Maybe I will run the 122-002 map until I can take it over there this summer. No just need to wait till i get all the parts to put on. Hopefully next week xD
 
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