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I have just over 6100 miles on my Shinko 230 Tourmaster tires that I put on shortly after purchasing my bike.

They have been excellent tires, good grip wet or dry, and have worn quite evenly.

They still have a little groove left so I will probably get another 1000 miles out of them. I am looking now because I want to replace them before my trip through the Smokies and in to northern Georgia this fall.

I am thinking that I will go with the Shinko's again unless I find something that is more bang for the buck.

These have been really good tires. And the price is great.

Of course I am always open for suggestions, especially from those of you that have 1300's and ride moderately.

If you've found a good tire, tell me about it and I'll consider it.
 

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I'm getting about 14k on my 1300r tires . 880 metzeler on front , michelin commander 1 on rear . are you really saving any money if you have to replace the shinkos 2 or 3 times to reach 14k ? I was also getting 14k on the metzeler 880 and 888 rear . eo
 

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I'm getting about 14k on my 1300r tires . 880 metzeler on front , michelin commander 1 on rear . are you really saving any money if you have to replace the shinkos 2 or 3 times to reach 14k ? I was also getting 14k on the metzeler 880 and 888 rear . eo
How do the Metzeler 880's and 888's do in curves? I primarily ride curvy backroads.
 

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I am an average rider. I am two hours from North Georgia mtns, 5 hours to Deals Gap.
Tires I have used. I went up to 40 psi from the advice of many good people here.

Start End Mileage Brand Model FRONT
0 18,830 -18,830 Dun OEM 6/8/05 - 6/2/06
18,830 36,118 -17,288 Avon am41 6/2/06 - 4/20/07 weird feedback-chgd stem bearings-left when tire repl
36,118 53,753 -17,635 Pir mt66 4/20/07-4/1/08
53,753 74,863 -21,110 Pir mt66 4/1/08-7/30-09
74,863 91,623 -16,760 Dun d404 7/30/09-7/16/10
91,623 108,104 -16,481 Pir mt66 7/16/10-6/17/11
108,104 128,140 -20,036 Metz me880 6/17/11-9/8/12 Wobble crap until it was replaced
128,140 142,539 -14,399 Pir mt66 9/8/12-9/5/13
142,539 149,335 -6,796 Kenda POS k673 9/5/13 - 4/29/14 Poor mileage
149,335 165,511 -16,176 Pirelli MT66 4/29/14 - 7/30/15
165,511 179,619 -14,108 Pirelli MT66 7/30/15 - 4/27/2017
179,619 189,416 -9,797 Shinko 230TM 4/27/2017 - 3/23/2019 Poor mileage TM=TourMaster
189,416 Michelin Comm2 3/23/2019- Commander2

Start End Mileage Brand Model REAR
0 300 300 Dun Oem k555 6/8/05-6/11/05 Nail, tubed later
300 7,669 -7,369 Dun POS D404 6/11/05-10/10/05
7,669 18,830 -11,161 Dun K555 10/10/05-6/2/06
18,830 30,355 -11,525 Avon am42 6/2/06-10/27/06
30,355 39,323 -8,968 Dun Oem K555 10/27/06-5/26/07 OEM with a tube 8968 + 300=9268 miles
39,323 52,542 -13,219 Pir MT66 5/26/07-2/14/08
52,542 67,054 -14,512 PIR MT66 2/14/08-1/31/09
67,054 77,674 -10,620 Mich Comm1 1/31-09-10/27/09
77,674 93,750 -16,076 Metz me880 10/27/09-8/19/10
93,750 106,189 -12,439 Pir mt66 8/19/10-5/20/11
106,189 118,679 -12,490 Metz me880 5/20/11-1/26/12
118,679 135,898 -17,219 AVON 83H AV338 1/27/12-2/25/13 Mileage WINNER
135,898 148,814 -12,916 Pir MT66 2/25/13-4/14/14
148,814 160,117 -11,303 Kenda Kruz K673 4/16/14-1/21/15
160,117 173,059 -12,942 AVON 83H AV338 1-21-2015 - 6/14/2016 I forgot 45 PSI requirement
173,059 189,518 -16,459 Metzler ME888 6/14/16 - 3/27/2019 2nd place in mileage
189,518 Michelin Comm2 3/27/2019 -
 

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I am an average rider. I am two hours from North Georgia mtns, 5 hours to Deals Gap.
Tires I have used. I went up to 40 psi from the advice of many good people here.

Start End Mileage Brand Model FRONT
0 18,830 -18,830 Dun OEM 6/8/05 - 6/2/06
18,830 36,118 -17,288 Avon am41 6/2/06 - 4/20/07 weird feedback-chgd stem bearings-left when tire repl
36,118 53,753 -17,635 Pir mt66 4/20/07-4/1/08
53,753 74,863 -21,110 Pir mt66 4/1/08-7/30-09
74,863 91,623 -16,760 Dun d404 7/30/09-7/16/10
91,623 108,104 -16,481 Pir mt66 7/16/10-6/17/11
108,104 128,140 -20,036 Metz me880 6/17/11-9/8/12 Wobble crap until it was replaced
128,140 142,539 -14,399 Pir mt66 9/8/12-9/5/13
142,539 149,335 -6,796 Kenda POS k673 9/5/13 - 4/29/14 Poor mileage
149,335 165,511 -16,176 Pirelli MT66 4/29/14 - 7/30/15
165,511 179,619 -14,108 Pirelli MT66 7/30/15 - 4/27/2017
179,619 189,416 -9,797 Shinko 230TM 4/27/2017 - 3/23/2019 Poor mileage TM=TourMaster
189,416 Michelin Comm2 3/23/2019- Commander2

Start End Mileage Brand Model REAR
0 300 300 Dun Oem k555 6/8/05-6/11/05 Nail, tubed later
300 7,669 -7,369 Dun POS D404 6/11/05-10/10/05
7,669 18,830 -11,161 Dun K555 10/10/05-6/2/06
18,830 30,355 -11,525 Avon am42 6/2/06-10/27/06
30,355 39,323 -8,968 Dun Oem K555 10/27/06-5/26/07 OEM with a tube 8968 + 300=9268 miles
39,323 52,542 -13,219 Pir MT66 5/26/07-2/14/08
52,542 67,054 -14,512 PIR MT66 2/14/08-1/31/09
67,054 77,674 -10,620 Mich Comm1 1/31-09-10/27/09
77,674 93,750 -16,076 Metz me880 10/27/09-8/19/10
93,750 106,189 -12,439 Pir mt66 8/19/10-5/20/11
106,189 118,679 -12,490 Metz me880 5/20/11-1/26/12
118,679 135,898 -17,219 AVON 83H AV338 1/27/12-2/25/13 Mileage WINNER
135,898 148,814 -12,916 Pir MT66 2/25/13-4/14/14
148,814 160,117 -11,303 Kenda Kruz K673 4/16/14-1/21/15
160,117 173,059 -12,942 AVON 83H AV338 1-21-2015 - 6/14/2016 I forgot 45 PSI requirement
173,059 189,518 -16,459 Metzler ME888 6/14/16 - 3/27/2019 2nd place in mileage
189,518 Michelin Comm2 3/27/2019 -
You seem to like the Pirelli MT66 tires a lot. They look like a lot of tire for the price too!

I liked the Shinko Tourmaster 230's a lot because they handled very well with lots of grip.

How are the Pirelli's in that aspect?
 

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Pirelli was the low cost tire before the others arrived.
I have not any issues with them. They balance well. Generally good mileage.
They have all the grip I ever need.
Metzler is owned by Pirelli.

A MT66 on the rear 8oct2010 pic.
 

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How do the Metzeler 880's and 888's do in curves? I primarily ride curvy back roads in ky. ....... Well I ride ky back roads and the Metz do just fine in curves. I'm not a real aggressive rider but they do fine ? I'm not against shinko , use them on my small Honda 1972 cl100 and moped , but they don't get many miles put on them like the vtx. eo
 

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I just replaced Dunlop Elite 4 on 1300 C. 19,500 miles and 9,000 miles of that pulling a trailer weighing roughly #350. Front and rear together cost about $310. I mount my own tires and balance with beads, beads cost me $8.30 + $310=$318.30. 318.30/19500=$0.0163230769230769 or 1.6 cents per mile. Front tire probably has another 10,000 left. Do the math
 

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I have a question.

Some tires say they have an aspect ratio of 80 and others say the aspect ratio is 90.

This occurs even though both will say they are 170/80-15.

What is the difference between the 80 and 90?
 

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I have a question.
Some tires say they have an aspect ratio of 80 and others say the aspect ratio is 90.
This occurs even though both will say they are 170/80-15.
What is the difference between the 80 and 90?
Show me an example.
Google "tire aspect ratio"
One example: The two-digit number after the slash mark in a tire size is the aspect ratio. For example, in a size P215/65 R15 tire, the 65 means that the height is equal to 65% of the tire's width. The bigger the aspect ratio, the bigger the tire's sidewall will be.

The OEM front tire is 110/90-19
The OEM rear tire is 170/80-15
 

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Show me an example.
Google "tire aspect ratio"
One example: The two-digit number after the slash mark in a tire size is the aspect ratio. For example, in a size P215/65 R15 tire, the 65 means that the height is equal to 65% of the tire's width. The bigger the aspect ratio, the bigger the tire's sidewall will be.

The OEM front tire is 110/90-19
The OEM rear tire is 170/80-15
When looking for tires on J&P Cycles, I was comparing the Shinko Tourmaster 230, which is what I currently have, to the Pirelli MT66, which is what I am probably going to get.

If you notice in the screenshots of the descriptions below, it says the Shinko has an aspect ratio of 90 while the Pirelli is 80. This is even though the size has an /80 on both.

Perhaps a typo?
 

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When looking for tires on J&P Cycles, I was comparing the Shinko Tourmaster 230, which is what I currently have, to the Pirelli MT66, which is what I am probably going to get.

If you notice in the screenshots of the descriptions below, it says the Shinko has an aspect ratio of 90 while the Pirelli is 80. This is even though the size has an /80 on both.

Perhaps a typo?


It is a typo.
 

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Well, I went to a local dealer and got an estimate on the Pirelli PT66 tires installed.

They quoted me $515 to do the complete install.

I think I'll learn how to do it myself for far less!
 

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Bead breaker tire irons and rim protectors will cost you about $100--- one time
 

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Well, I went to a local dealer and got an estimate on the Pirelli PT66 tires installed.

They quoted me $515 to do the complete install.

I think I'll learn how to do it myself for far less!
Find a independent MC repair place
. Mine was charging me $30 to mount and balance when I brought new tire and rim/tire. I have a jack and a stand to remove the wheels.
 

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I've run nothing but Avons on my 1300C since around the 11K-mile mark on the clock (sitting north of 120K now). Ran the Venom series for years until they stopped making them, and I'm now running the Cobras. They also just released Cobra Chromes, which are supposed to be even better than the Cobras. I average 14-16K miles (rear) and 19-21K miles (front), and they ride very well in the twisties and in wet conditions.
 
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