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I got this from another board where we were discussing how to wave at other bikers, why and why not it's a good thing.

"In Toronto (where I currently ride a Scarabeo 200 and will soon have a Burgman 400) I wave at everyone and get waves from almost everyone except mostly scooter riders who seem strangely oblivious to the custom of waving among bikers.

Anyway, I thought I'd pass along this passage from elsewhere on the web that perfectly sums up the snobbishness among some bikers:

I love motorcycles, and I love riding. Like many of you, what first drew me to bikes was not just the experience of riding, but the feeling that I'd become part of a special community - a brotherhood, really. Nothing calms me more than a long ride down the interstate, waving to the members of my beloved clan. Except when I pass Harley guys. I hate Harley guys. Hate, hate, hate. When they pass me on the highway, you know what I do? I don't wave. With their little tassel handlebars and the studded luggage and the half helmets - God, they drive me crazy.

You know who else I hate? BMW guys. Oh, do I hate those guys. I don't wave at them either. They think they're so great, sitting all upright, with their 180 degree German engines. God, I hate them. They're almost as bad as those old bastards on their touring motorcycles. You know what I call those bikes? "Two wheeled couches!" Get it? Because they're so big. They drive around like they have all day. Appreciate the scenery somewhere else, Grandpa, and while you're at it, I'm not waving to you.

Ducati guys - I don't wave at them either. Why don't they spend a little more money on their bikes? "You can have it in any color as long as it is red." Aren't you cool! Like they even know what a Desmo-whatever engine is, anyway. Try finding the battery, you Italian-wannabe racers! I never, ever wave at those guys.

Suzuki guys aren't much better, which is why I never wave at them, either. They always have those stupid helmets sitting on the top of their stupid heads, and God forbid they should ever wear any safety gear. They make me so mad. Sometimes they'll speed by and look over at me, and you know what I do? I don't wave. I just keep going. Please, don't get me started on Kawasaki guys. Ninjas? What are you, twelve years old? Team Green my ass. I never wave at Kawasaki guys.

I ride a Honda, and I'll only wave at Honda guys, but even then I'll never wave at a guy in full leathers. Never, never, never. Yeah, like you're going to get your knee down on the New York Thruway. Nice crotch, by the way. Guys in full leathers will never get a wave from me. And by the way, neither will the guys in two piece leathers. And I'll tell you who else I'm not waving at - those guys with the helmets with loud paint jobs. Four pounds of paint on a two pound helmet - like I'm going to wave back at that! I'll also never wave at someone with a mirrored visor. Or helmet stickers. Or racing gloves. Or hiking boots.

To me, motorcycling is like a family, a close knit brotherhood of people who ride Hondas, wear jeans and a leather jacket (not Vanson) with regular gloves and a solid color helmet with a clear visor, no stickers, no racing gloves and regular boots (not Timberlands). And isn't that what really makes riding so special.'

This followed by another that idnetifies the writer.

"I was so impressed by this essay, I wanted to find out where it first appeared and who wrote it. I found a 2006 link to a Ninja 250 Riders Club and found the essay. It was written by Shalom Auslander, a professional writer who has published short stories, two novels and pieces for Esquire, NY Times, GQ and others. He also created Showtime's 'Happyish.' (cancelled after one season).

That's all"

I generally wave to anyone that waves at me. How about you?
 

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I wave at all. If they wave back, fine. If not, no big deal.

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Ditto here. I'm usually an out-going kinda guy. I don't try to piss people off, but it happens. If someone doesn't want to be 'friendly', it's their loss. There are others who will.:kiss:
 

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I wave at ALL 2 wheel motorized operators... ( motorcyclists )


and many bicycle riders as well. ( possible future motorcyclists )

and most Amish buggies ... or Amish walkers, and most of these wave back :)


and have since 1969.
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Here we go again, can you HONESTLY say that you wave to EVERY bike that passes you? Or just the ones that you see and recognize before they are gone past you? At a closure rate of just say 60 mph(that's both bikes coming at each other at 30mph ) you have a very small window to recognize a bike coming, tell your arm to start moving and wave.
Now, I have better than 20/20 vision and I can't tell what kind of bike it is most of the time. I see two wheels and I stick a hand out. I've been caught waving at scooters now that they are so popular. I also miss a lot of bikes. Why? Because my attention was elsewhere, I was focused on traffic, or listening to music, or thinking of what I need at the store, or a million other reasons why I missed a bike.
Most of teh non wavers I get are from Goldwingers. Sportbikes wave, cruisers wave, BMWs wave, but Wingers can't I guess ;)
 

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Folks up this way just stopped waving. There's no brotherhood or camaraderie like years ago.

If someone waves to me, I'll wave back, I stopped initiating it though.
 

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Here we go again, can you HONESTLY say that you wave to EVERY bike that passes you? Or just the ones that you see and recognize before they are gone past you? At a closure rate of just say 60 mph(that's both bikes coming at each other at 30mph ) you have a very small window to recognize a bike coming, tell your arm to start moving and wave.
Now, I have better than 20/20 vision and I can't tell what kind of bike it is most of the time. I see two wheels and I stick a hand out. I've been caught waving at scooters now that they are so popular. I also miss a lot of bikes. Why? Because my attention was elsewhere, I was focused on traffic, or listening to music, or thinking of what I need at the store, or a million other reasons why I missed a bike.
Most of teh non wavers I get are from Goldwingers. Sportbikes wave, cruisers wave, BMWs wave, but Wingers can't I guess ;)
I beg to differ. As a Goldwinger, I wave to all. Harleys are the worst non wavers.

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When I owned Wings I notice they were the ones that waved the least. Especially back at those that weren't riding the newest Wing. As far as the HDs those that drove the simpler models were the nicest. Not those that rode the dressers or the artificial customs. Generally it was those that rode common Japanese cruisers that were the most friendly followed later by the scooter crowd.
If I initiated the wave on the road it was a simple raise my hand off the grip and keep my wrist on the end of the bar.
 

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If someone waves to me, I'll wave back, I stopped initiating it though.
Me too.


Is this not an acceptable wave???? :dontknow: It always gets a wave back.;)





That's the wave I give to Scooter riders when they wave at me.

Most scooters around here are ridden by kids, or drunks who lost their license. No license, no insurance, and apparently very little common sense.
 

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Most scooters around here are ridden by kids, or drunks who lost their license. No license, no insurance, and apparently very little common sense.
Drunks in this state ride bicycles.

You need a valid automobile license to operate a scooter.

Now the scooters even have to be 'registered', they don't get a license plate .... instead you pay a fee and get a sticker.

I know some azzhole cops who think that anyone riding a bicycle to work is some drunk who lost his license. Well I guess since they can no longer profile people based on race, they will profile them based on their ride! :grin2: :grin2: :grin2:
 

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I wave at everyone and have been caught now and then waving at a scooter but it still feels strange. If they don't wave back (usually Harley riders) so be it.

The best wave I got is from the 5 year old kid down the street riding his bicycle on the sidewalk...he still gives me a biker wave when I'm coming home from work! Cute kid and he really gets a kick out of me giving the biker wave back to him.

I feel that if you're on two wheels you're enjoying the same passion I have for riding...share the love ... hahaha

KD3NE..I drive a Wrangler Rubicon myself and yes, I hear the same thing on Jeep forums. I still wave at all Wrangler style Jeeps and there are even a couple Cherokee drivers that wave too.
 

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Me too.




That's the wave I give to Scooter riders when they wave at me.

Most scooters around here are ridden by kids, or drunks who lost their license. No license, no insurance, and apparently very little common sense.
I have compared our laws and they are the same. You must have a valid drivers license to ride mopeds or scooters.

Also I belong to 7 scooter forums and they have done surveys just like motorcycle forums. 78% of scooter riders there are age 40-70 and also own motorcycles of many sizes and makes.

I'm not sure about your location but here in Wisconsin to be convicted of a DUI doesn't require and arrest or citation. Your BAC could be 0.000. They aren't require to have a trial, just issue a warrant and come to your home and arrest you and confiscate ALL vehicles registered to you.
 

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I wave whenever I see a bike... not saying I see all of them but try to while riding focused. If they don't wave back that's ok, I'm only responsible for My actions
 

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I wave if riding conditions permit , also have a Jeep Wrangler and most Wrangler drivers wave
 
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