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My Laptop, which I bought used 6 years ago, bit the dust.
I had turned it on & a message informed me the Disc needed to be checked, so I let it run.
Along the bottom of the screen was a "Graph" stating that it was loading files.
About 1/2 way through, we had a power blip, electric went out for 2 seconds then came back on.

So now, it runs in circles. Loads files, then does a disc check, then does the same thing over & over.

I found a deal on a new laptop, now, what do I do with the old one.
Though I can't access anything than what I mentioned above, (I did go into the Boot menu & ran checks, which made no difference), that's not saying that someone with expertise couldn't get into it.

My concern is that my Online banking info is still on it.

Someone suggested I fill the sink with water & let it soak overnight. :dontknow:
 

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I'm no expert in any sense of the term when it comes to tech, but they can likely get photos/etc from the hard drive if you need them to. For money. lol

Otherwise, I'd crack it open and destroy the hard drive and throw them both in the garbage.


A good reminder to back up everything often, which I don't. Not often enough, anyway.


They will all fail, it's just a matter of when.
 

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My Vista laptops died, not the HD.
I purchased an external USB HD unit.
Now my old HD are used for backups.

Sabrent USB 3 to hard drives.

Download Linux Mint and burn a Boot DVD or make a USB boot stick to see it your old laptop will work.

A sledge hammer will destroy the HD if you pound it flat.

Did you fill up your old laptop HD??
 

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If you are techie enough and can create a bootable thumb drive, download DBAN
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/


Boot the USB drive and just wipe the laptop hard drive. Once done, you can do whatever you want with it, there will be nothing recoverable on it. This is what I use to sanitize hard drives on old PCs that get repurposed as file servers or Linux desktops for web and email.
 

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Sadly, pay the dollars and get a geek to come around. Life is too short for head problems like that. They can usually fix the problem quick smart. Gawd, I hate this modern world where everything is so specialised. Pick up a paint brush it works first time, every time.
 

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If you are techie enough and can create a bootable thumb drive, download DBAN
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/


Boot the USB drive and just wipe the laptop hard drive. Once done, you can do whatever you want with it, there will be nothing recoverable on it. This is what I use to sanitize hard drives on old PCs that get repurposed as file servers or Linux desktops for web and email.

Is it necessary when using DBAN to go into the BIOS prior to booting and tell it to boot from the USB port first rather than the hard drive? If so, this might not be an easy fix for the technically challenged.

Seems that PC manufactures are doing all they can these days to keep us out of the BIOS. My current PC doesn't even flash the key press needed to access it during normal boot up.
 

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Is it necessary when using DBAN to go into the BIOS prior to booting and tell it to boot from the USB port first rather than the hard drive? If so, this might not be an easy fix for the technically challenged.

Seems that PC manufactures are doing all they can these days to keep us out of the BIOS. My current PC doesn't even flash the key press needed to access it during normal boot up.
Good point. The answer would be yes and no on that. This whole not being able to get into the BIOS was largely a Windows 10 thing, unfortunately. Generally a Windows 7 or earlier PC/Laptop will allow you to pres the key to open your BIOS. Windows 10 requires some effort on that. Much of this depends on exactly what he is seeing on boot. BUT yes, this could prove difficult in some situations, for sure. It's not impossible though. Many newer laptops offer ways to now bypass the Windows 10 boot process.


I remember in the XP / Vista / Win7 early days it was nearly impossible to install Windows if you had a USB mouse and keyboards. At one point in the Windows install Windows was neither fish nor fowl, and did not service the USB ports in a part of their installation. It was necessary to pre-install USB drivers to the Windows install image and then re-create installation media in order to be able proceed through the installation. The Windows 10 ownership of your PC is about the same. Microsoft wants to not only own your using Windows 10, but also your using any other OS on your system.


The easiest way to get into the BIOS in these situations is to open the HDD cover and unplug the HDD. Turn it on with the USB stick inserted and make that your primary boot device, save and exit. Turn the power off and plug the HDD back in, and then boot. If you are really unlucky the BIOS will reassign the HDD as the primary boot device, but that behavior is not universal by any means.


Of course the other obvious issue is the paradox of needing a functional computer to create the tools needed to wipe the nonfunctional computer.
 

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While I know very well how to do these things, I still use the 2lb sledge method on any computer I have no intention of repurposing, or giving away. That's the safest, most dependable method of insuring that bad guys don't end up with my info.


If someone does not know how to pull their hard drive out of their PC there are usually youtube videos that will explain where all the hidden screws of tabs can be found.


Barring that tools like DBAN are a safe bet too, providing they can get their PC to boot from them. Good tip Hark!
 

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Call the hildabeast and ask her where she got her "bleach" to scrub her HD's / emails. And then, as already suggested, take a hammer to the HD.:grin2:

Go get a MAC desktop or a MAC Book...get away from any Windows products.:thumbup: I've never been happier since turning down that road. I have NEVER had the issues with my MAC like I did with MS Windows. MS wants to 'control' everything! It took me a while to get used to the Mac OS foundation, but once I adjusted, it has been smooth surfing ever since.:thumbup:
 

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Call the hildabeast and ask her where she got her "bleach" to scrub her HD's / emails. And then, as already suggested, take a hammer to the HD.:grin2:

Go get a MAC desktop or a MAC Book...get away from any Windows products.:thumbup: I've never been happier since turning down that road. I have NEVER had the issues with my MAC like I did with MS Windows. MS wants to 'control' everything! It took me a while to get used to the Mac OS foundation, but once I adjusted, it has been smooth surfing ever since.:thumbup:
Yeah, Microshaft wants to control your PC, Apple only wants to control your data. No thanks. Windows us far easier to seal data leaks on than Mac OSX. But, you need to be savvy. Linux and BSD are by far more secure re: data leakage than either Winders or OSX.
 

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Yeah, Microshaft wants to control your PC, Apple only wants to control your data.
Hmmmm....I've never experienced or have been aware of Apple wanting to control my data. However, I will agree that; there is no PC unit, mfgr, etc., that is totally 'secure', no matter who they are. Somewhere, somehow, there are company techies who are doing 'something' to manipulate the privacy of anyone's PC / phone. Reading the privacy statements on any program, app, download, etc., and one will realized that the privacy policies are written for the benefit of the company, NOT for the consumer.

So, in essence, from my layman's point of view, the consumer is being 'controlled' via data loss, downloads, apps, and just plain purchases alone. Consumer's are the ones who are having to become adept at figuring out how to protect oneself, and their privacy. In the long run, it isn't' going to matter one binary iota. I don't put my stuff on ANY 'cloud' or somewhere in cyberspace for "safe keeping". To me, that's just asking for trouble at some point.

I may be very naive, when it comes to thinking my MAC is safer and better than MS products, but I do know that I've never been more satisfied since going MAC. I could have, what is called, a 'false sense of security' with Apple, because I don't get shut down, upgraded, or 'frozen' up like I was getting w/MS/Windows on a daily basis...sometimes, 3 or 4 times a day. Even with Apple/MAC, my faith in their product is limited.
 

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Hmmmm....I've never experienced or have been aware of Apple wanting to control my data. However, I will agree that; there is no PC unit, mfgr, etc., that is totally 'secure', no matter who they are. Somewhere, somehow, there are company techies who are doing 'something' to manipulate the privacy of anyone's PC / phone. Reading the privacy statements on any program, app, download, etc., and one will realized that the privacy policies are written for the benefit of the company, NOT for the consumer.

So, in essence, from my layman's point of view, the consumer is being 'controlled' via data loss, downloads, apps, and just plain purchases alone. Consumer's are the ones who are having to become adept at figuring out how to protect oneself, and their privacy. In the long run, it isn't' going to matter one binary iota. I don't put my stuff on ANY 'cloud' or somewhere in cyberspace for "safe keeping". To me, that's just asking for trouble at some point.

I may be very naive, when it comes to thinking my MAC is safer and better than MS products, but I do know that I've never been more satisfied since going MAC. I could have, what is called, a 'false sense of security' with Apple, because I don't get shut down, upgraded, or 'frozen' up like I was getting w/MS/Windows on a daily basis...sometimes, 3 or 4 times a day. Even with Apple/MAC, my faith in their product is limited.
I get it. tried Apple, was miserable. Everything was tied to your AppleID. you had to opt out of cloud services. and when it doesn't work, it is way tougher to fix. of course, I fully admit it does generally work better than windows.


You are 100% correct, there is no "safe keeping" in the cloud. It doesn't matter which you choose, it's how you allow your platform of choice to expose you that is important. The biggest problem with Windows is less Windows than the crap program we install that makes it act up. For the most part, Windows programs are of fairly poor quality. I think the reason for this is that anyone that knows even a little bit about programming can create some pile of crap that looks good on the outside, and is maybe even fairy useful, but is horribly coded, opening up all manner of security holes.


Yes, Windows continuous updates are a major PITA.
 

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Gee willicas Mr Wilson! Where did you old buggers get to be so computer savy? There are more acronyms is this thread than flies around poo ! Im voting with the sledgehammer theme. Yes, it shows that I am a luddite, but living comfortably in the 70,s and in no hurry to move foreward.
 
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