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One of my 2 keys went missing. I took my other one to Home Depot to try and get it copied, no dice. I called Ace hardware. They don't do it either. I called like 17 locksmiths, none of them do it. Where on Earth do I have to take it? Do I have to take it to a Honda motorcycle dealer? I have no idea where one is, I don't think one is even close. I hate when things so simple have to be made so hard...
 

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My local locksmith Puyallup Washington has every key blank you can imagine, and I have never failed to get duplicate keys for many different motorcycles over the years. With that said, I’ve seen various key blanks for sale on eBay and then it’s just a matter of taking it to a competent key cutter.
 

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If you find a Hardware store that will cut you one remember to use that one as a spare as the metal is more brittle than the OEM keys. I had a key made at a Do It Best hardware a few years ago and use only as a spare.

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That’s a bit pricey! But if it’s the right animal then it might be worth it. There was another eBay seller who calls himself master locksmith I think and he was saying that it depends on which year because the OEMs sometimes change blanks from year to year. I don’t know what bike our discussion starter has but it might pay to match up the years.
 

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That’s a bit pricey! But if it’s the right animal then it might be worth it. There was another eBay seller who calls himself master locksmith I think and he was saying that it depends on which year because the OEMs sometimes change blanks from year to year. I don’t know what bike our discussion starter has but it might pay to match up the years.
And that is a factory Mask Blank. I was smart one time. bike came with two. i put it in a tupperware container and hide it outside. Divorced and forgot about it. went back after she sold house when I remembered. damn. People poured concrete where the flowers were. Now this thread has ne thinking. time for a key.
 

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You can buy blank honda keys from a online Honda motorcycle parts supply like Partzilla or other online stores, check your model's part diagram on the site for part #. Also there is a type 1 and type 2 which you will need to figure out which one you have, try looking at google photos. Finding someone to copy and cut a key is sometimes a problem because stores like ACE hardware might have a policy they won't cut blank keys supplied by the customer. Ask around and explain your situtation you should be able to find a place to help you. Years ago I bought some blanks from Honda and got lucky the guy at the ACE hardware was nice enought to cut my blank copying my original key.
 

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Just found this thread.


Been reading the various posts on getting spare keys made, calling Honda and looking up a ton of stuff on the web and finally came up with this synopsis for us all to use in one posting (hopefully, though I'm sure I'll get a correction here and there. :bleh:

Though they will say they don’t (that IF you can even find someone to help you) most Wal-Mart’s, Lowes and Home Depot DO have blanks that fit Honda bikes, including the VTX...but they don't know it. It's the #30 blank that fits Toyota cars. It’s a little longer than most motorcycle keys, but works ok if it’s cut correctly.

Ace Hardware carries the HD-74 blank that fits the VTX. It varies from Ace to Ace, but they often charge about $0.50 per key cut. My key has 4 notches plus the two bevels to make the point comes out to $3.00.

For some, though, it still might be easier to just pay more ($8 each, includes the cutting) for the Honda blanks with the Honda logo. They usually have some blanks on hand for the more recent bikes, but can easily order the blanks for most made in the last 20 years.

When you get your keys cut they should open the gas cap, ignition, helmet lock and fork lock. Check them ALL, especially if Honda does the cutting. Sometimes the key won't fit all the locks if they are machine (template) cut. They often (usually) must be hand cut and the shaft must be long enough to reach down into all the locks. Then it will open all of them. The shaft length is the key to opening all the locks.

I was told that the way the key templates work in the VTX are that the pins, which the key pushes out of the way, are different in each key lock slot (ignition, helmet, gas and fork). The only difference is the ignition uses all the pins. For example, the fork key only uses the first four pins and the helmet lock uses the last three. Supposedly, you could actually use the fork and helmet locks combined to create the ignition key.

If you do have to pull the ignition use that time to put in a concealed kill switch. By the way...that number found behind the ignition lock is only the Blank key code, not the actual cut key itself and doesn't really help in getting the key made if you actually have no keys left.
By the way, locksmiths don’t use the codes found on the bike to create keys for you anyway, because you could be getting the key for nefarious means. If they just gave anyone keys to bikes when only the VIN is given they are basically giving away the bike.

One other interesting note: Several Honda ignition keys will fit a variety of different Hondas made after 1982. For example, many C model keys will fit R models, but not visa versa. It might prove an interesting experiment at one of the VTX Tech Sessions to see how many keys will fit all the different X’s in one place.

:coffee: Technical information for you guys with nothing else to do:


The code written on the side of the key shaft only tells Honda or any locksmith whether the Blank starts out as a Right or Left cut for that particular model vehicle.


1983+ Honda models including Shadow, VTX, Rebel, Valkyre, Nighthawk, Magna, Elite, XR 80/100/650L, CRF 50/70/100/230 & all 4-wheelers use Blank template ILCO (SILCA) {JMA} with the specific numbers being either:
  • - #X84 (HON31R) {HOND-4D} with Right cut key codes of A00 through A99 and B00 through B99 (that's the number on the key shaft)...or...
  • - #X138 (HON31) {HOND-4I} with Left cut key codes of C00 through C99 or D00 through D99 (again, that's the number on the key shaft).


They all use the same key card number: CMC37, the same DSD number: 406 and the same ITL number: 214.


Well, there you go. Hope I got it all correct and some of this proves useful, even if for only one of us!
 

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Just found this thread.


Been reading the various posts on getting spare keys made, calling Honda and looking up a ton of stuff on the web and finally came up with this synopsis for us all to use in one posting (hopefully, though I'm sure I'll get a correction here and there. :bleh:

Though they will say they don’t (that IF you can even find someone to help you) most Wal-Mart’s, Lowes and Home Depot DO have blanks that fit Honda bikes, including the VTX...but they don't know it. It's the #30 blank that fits Toyota cars. It’s a little longer than most motorcycle keys, but works ok if it’s cut correctly.

Ace Hardware carries the HD-74 blank that fits the VTX. It varies from Ace to Ace, but they often charge about $0.50 per key cut. My key has 4 notches plus the two bevels to make the point comes out to $3.00.

For some, though, it still might be easier to just pay more ($8 each, includes the cutting) for the Honda blanks with the Honda logo. They usually have some blanks on hand for the more recent bikes, but can easily order the blanks for most made in the last 20 years.

When you get your keys cut they should open the gas cap, ignition, helmet lock and fork lock. Check them ALL, especially if Honda does the cutting. Sometimes the key won't fit all the locks if they are machine (template) cut. They often (usually) must be hand cut and the shaft must be long enough to reach down into all the locks. Then it will open all of them. The shaft length is the key to opening all the locks.

I was told that the way the key templates work in the VTX are that the pins, which the key pushes out of the way, are different in each key lock slot (ignition, helmet, gas and fork). The only difference is the ignition uses all the pins. For example, the fork key only uses the first four pins and the helmet lock uses the last three. Supposedly, you could actually use the fork and helmet locks combined to create the ignition key.

If you do have to pull the ignition use that time to put in a concealed kill switch. By the way...that number found behind the ignition lock is only the Blank key code, not the actual cut key itself and doesn't really help in getting the key made if you actually have no keys left.
By the way, locksmiths don’t use the codes found on the bike to create keys for you anyway, because you could be getting the key for nefarious means. If they just gave anyone keys to bikes when only the VIN is given they are basically giving away the bike.

One other interesting note: Several Honda ignition keys will fit a variety of different Hondas made after 1982. For example, many C model keys will fit R models, but not visa versa. It might prove an interesting experiment at one of the VTX Tech Sessions to see how many keys will fit all the different X’s in one place.

:coffee: Technical information for you guys with nothing else to do:


The code written on the side of the key shaft only tells Honda or any locksmith whether the Blank starts out as a Right or Left cut for that particular model vehicle.


1983+ Honda models including Shadow, VTX, Rebel, Valkyre, Nighthawk, Magna, Elite, XR 80/100/650L, CRF 50/70/100/230 & all 4-wheelers use Blank template ILCO (SILCA) {JMA} with the specific numbers being either:
  • - #X84 (HON31R) {HOND-4D} with Right cut key codes of A00 through A99 and B00 through B99 (that's the number on the key shaft)...or...
  • - #X138 (HON31) {HOND-4I} with Left cut key codes of C00 through C99 or D00 through D99 (again, that's the number on the key shaft).


They all use the same key card number: CMC37, the same DSD number: 406 and the same ITL number: 214.


Well, there you go. Hope I got it all correct and some of this proves useful, even if for only one of us!


Thank you, for next time!!!
 

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And that is a factory Mask Blank. I was smart one time. bike came with two. i put it in a tupperware container and hide it outside. Divorced and forgot about it. went back after she sold house when I remembered. damn. People poured concrete where the flowers were. Now this thread has ne thinking. time for a key.
So let them make a new key so you will forget about the rest..
 

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Any lock and key store should be able too copy your key I had mine done there cost me 6 bucks but worth it Boston no issues here ! Be safe ! Good luck
One of my 2 keys went missing. I took my other one to Home Depot to try and get it copied, no dice. I called Ace hardware. They don't do it either. I called like 17 locksmiths, none of them do it. Where on Earth do I have to take it? Do I have to take it to a Honda motorcycle dealer? I have no idea where one is, I don't think one is even close. I hate when things so simple have to be made so hard...
 

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One of my 2 keys went missing. I took my other one to Home Depot to try and get it copied, no dice. I called Ace hardware. They don't do it either. I called like 17 locksmiths, none of them do it. Where on Earth do I have to take it? Do I have to take it to a Honda motorcycle dealer? I have no idea where one is, I don't think one is even close. I hate when things so simple have to be made so hard...
My local locksmith had a blank to cut after I'd lost my only key. Having the blank all I did was remove the switch and take it to him and he cut the blank by the numbers on the switch. Somebody has to have a blank in your area. A Honda blank isn't the cheapest, but it holds a better value than a generic.
 
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