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So, hands off the handlebars (04 1300C 12K miles)and I'm dealing with a wobble that would take me down if I left my hands off the bar. Searching the forum I found a thread with a guy with the same issue. Hands off/severe Wobble.....hands on/all is well. The overwhelming consensus was the steering bearing needed replacement.

Before I order the bearing and rip into it, I'm hoping for the same consensus.

The other thing I read is it's a fairly straight forward operation requiring no special tools. I haven't looked at the shop manual yet. I'm hoping to find a video to review, although the manual I'm sure is good enough.

If this is the issue, what kind of cheap azz bearings did Mr. Honda source? 12K miles and they're mush. One thing I am happy about is, I'm handy with a wrench.

Thanks ahead of time for your imput!
 

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Well, bad, notchy, neck bearings were certainly the cause of the wobble I had on my 1300. Bad rear shock bushings could also influence the front and should be inspected, and replaced if bad. The neck bearings Honda used on the 1300 were ball type bearings and look like they belong on a bicycle, not a heavy motorcycle. Most install the ALLballs replacement bearings, which are tapered roller bearings and a significant upgrade from the factory neck bearings.
 

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I had already installed the bearing upgrade and had a new tire cause the de-cel hands off wobble. I kept it for the duration[21k miles] and once replaced I cautiously tried hands off de-cel and all was well. No tire since then has caused the problem and I have not purchased that brand since then[front tire].
 

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If u do the bearings be sure and use torque specs/procedures for 1800....takes longer to strip bike than do the bearings....good luck

PS...remember retorqueing the bearings is/should be part of proper routine maintenance.....
 

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Harley Road Glides of the approx 2012 vintage (that's what mine is) did the head shake thing. This fix was head bearing preload adjust. Fixes the problem outright. If the head bearings are good, maybe the preload is a bit loosey goosey.
 

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I was ready to replace my bearings but also new I needed new tires because of age and dry rotting. I replaced the tires and decel wobble went away completely.
 

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Glad to see ya back, Rog!
It's them neck bearings. I'm sure you can handle it!
 

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Just think of this for a moment: You have the wobble. You have a 1300. Every 1300 I've ever heard of or read about with the wobble, changing the steering junk neck bearings stops the root of the problem. This condition will lead to your front tire needing replaced. So you replace the front tire and the condition goes away. For a few thousand miles, then it crops up again. Why? Because you didn't stop the root of the problem. New, flexible, tread soaks up a lot of abuse from different sources and all feels right for now, but eventually you are back to square one. MY 2 c.
 

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Ive written about this before...at 46k my developed a wobble....after ruling everything else out ...checked the bearings they were in good shape Just needed retorqueing....since I was in there and had the all balz I did the deed....FWIW Ive talked to guys with 100k who did proper retorqueing maintainance (see manual) and didn’t replace the stockers.....not saying dont do it.....FYI Goldwings had the same bearings as the 1300...go figure...good luck
 

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Bearings did not fix my wobble, but it did make the bike feel better. I dont regret it. If you get the bearings too tight the steering gets lousy, to impossible. I did go to a larger front tire which helped. I have a 150/80-17.
What front tire do you have......
 

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I've had that issue on several bikes, and (for me) it's always been tires.

Two GL1800 Gold Wings like that, also.


Your situation may be different.
Since there's a known problem with the 1300 bearings from the factory, I'm replacing them. If for some reason I still have the wobble after the new bearings, I'll go after the tire. It won't be too long before I need to replace it.
 

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Well, bad, notchy, neck bearings were certainly the cause of the wobble I had on my 1300. Bad rear shock bushings could also influence the front and should be inspected, and replaced if bad. The neck bearings Honda used on the 1300 were ball type bearings and look like they belong on a bicycle, not a heavy motorcycle. Most install the ALLballs replacement bearings, which are tapered roller bearings and a significant upgrade from the factory neck bearings.
Yes, I just changed the rear shock bushings a month ago. I have the Allballs ordered.
 

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Harley Road Glides of the approx 2012 vintage (that's what mine is) did the head shake thing. This fix was head bearing preload adjust. Fixes the problem outright. If the head bearings are good, maybe the preload is a bit loosey goosey.
I came across a vid last night that mentioned that. But since the factory bearings have such a poor history, I'm changing them out. To build on what you said about preload adjustment, I understand that should be checked on some schedule to see it remains at the proper torque to prevent issues. Being only 2 years old to bike ownership, I'm learning a lot. Thanks to the forum!
 

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I was ready to replace my bearings but also new I needed new tires because of age and dry rotting. I replaced the tires and decel wobble went away completely.
I wonder if that's why I wobble when I get out of a chair.....dry rot.

I remember my dad getting a bad tire on one of his cars and shake it produced. I'll be looking at the tire if the Allballs doesn't do it.
 

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Just think of this for a moment: You have the wobble. You have a 1300. Every 1300 I've ever heard of or read about with the wobble, changing the steering junk neck bearings stops the root of the problem. This condition will lead to your front tire needing replaced. So you replace the front tire and the condition goes away. For a few thousand miles, then it crops up again. Why? Because you didn't stop the root of the problem. New, flexible, tread soaks up a lot of abuse from different sources and all feels right for now, but eventually you are back to square one. MY 2 c.
You're right. It's not unlike medicine. Docs love using a band aid and not real concerned about the root cause. Medicine......my blood nearly boils when thinking about it.:cus: Medicine is great. When I had my MC accident, they were great at emergency medicine. Disease and treatment....not so much! I digress. Sorry.
 

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Following this thread. I have, what I would call a bounce, more than a wobble. I was thinking it was the shocks, but maybe it's the bearings. It's not present all the time, only in a certain speed range.
 

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When was the last time the fork oil was changed? Rear shock bushings? With the bike up on a lift, spin the wheels, looking for something not normal like an out of round tire, bent wheel, tire not tracking straight, dragging on the brake, pads wearing funny.
 

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When was the last time the fork oil was changed? Rear shock bushings? With the bike up on a lift, spin the wheels, looking for something not normal like an out of round tire, bent wheel, tire not tracking straight, dragging on the brake, pads wearing funny.
The new bearings arrive tomorrow. I'll have it up on my stand then for surgery. I'll check as you say. I have 12K original miles. Is it worth changing oil? I'd rather not at this time. I know I'll have the forks off and all. I'd like to think I could go a bit longer. I'm not sure what the manual says. Unless the age of the oil plays a factor?
 
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