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We survived the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s ..... #GetBent Millennials

TO ALL WHO SURVIVED THE 50's,60's and 70's
Some interesting thoughts on life today compared to our growing up years. Thanks to my friend Joe V. for much of this content.


First, we all survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant. They took aspirin, drank wine, and ate all kinds of sweets and unhealthy foods(by today's standards), and didn't ever need to get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with lead-based paints and bars wide enough to fit our heads through. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, no childproofing of doors or cabinets. There weren't any safety plugs in the electric outlets and some of us learned the hard way, not to stick scissors, knives, or forks into them.

As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no crumple zones to absorb accident damage, no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags. Only metal dashboards to stop our heads in an accident. My mother's right arm was our only safety constraint.

I lived over a mile from elementary school, and even in the harshest cold and snow in Winter, we actually walked to and from school. No buses, or being chauffeured by a parent.

When we rode our bikes, we had no helmets to protect our heads, and no reflectors or any other safety equipment. Many of us rode on the handlebars, downhill! And, we didn't need any fancy 5, 10, or 15 speed bikes, one speed was all we had! Slow, unless you were going downhill!

We drank water from the kitchen faucet and garden hose and NOT from a bottle or refrigerated cooler. This was particularly risky in a town if you drank from the well water!

We fished and swam in most likely semi polluted rivers and lakes, and we survived.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and none of us actually got sick or died from this.

We ate loads of Hostess cupcakes and Twinkies, white bread and real butter, drank Hood's Farms' whole milk chock full of fat, ate Brigham's ice cream full of fat, ate too many rare hamburgers and too much pizza, and drank Kool-Aid made with real sugar, but we weren't overweight because we were always outside playing!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, with no supervision, and as long as we were back home by the time the streetlights came on, there was never any panic or concern. Some parents would yell or whistle loudly when it was time to come home. Other than that, no one was able to reach us all day long. And we were just fine.

We would spend hours building our go-carts and mini-bikes out of scraps only to find out we had no brakes and an engine from an old lawnmower. But, we adapted. After running into the bushes a few times, or wear out the soles of our shoes, we learned to solve that problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 250 channels on cable or satellite TV, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet, Twitter or chat rooms! Most of us didn't have air-conditioning in our homes, if we were lucky we had a fan that only blew hot air on us, somehow we survived.

Not even color TV, if you had a TV. And, there was no remote control either. I was the remote, my parents would tell me to get up and change the channel, of which there were only three! Late night and early morning TV consisted of a test pattern! I still remember for those Saturday morning cartoons to come on. But, somehow we survived.

We had real life FRIENDS and we went outside and found them! We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. Some of us ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and now they say that actually was good for us, ingesting some of the minerals and other organic matter. It probably kept us from getting otherwise sick, that today's kids would be very prone to. Leading us to the next situation.

We never heard of ADD, ADHD, Bi-Polar, PTSD, and never needed any Prozac, Adderall, Ritalin or any other of the alphabet of drugs they give kids today.

Boys were given BB guns for our 10th or 11th Birthdays which we proudly brought to school for "Show & Tell". Today, we'd be going to jail and expelled from school.

We were left to our own devices, and made up games, or just threw sticks and rocks at each other, and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out any eyes. Although I came close, I remember my brother and I throwing metal sharp pointed darts at each other in our basement, and I got one stuck in his forehead. He just pulled it out and we kept on throwing. Today, a parent would call 911.

We rode bikes or walked to friends' homes and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them! And their parents! Imagine that! And we knew all our neighbors, and they knew us. If we got out of line, our parents would always find out about it.

Little League and Pee Wee Football had actual tryouts, often having to walk or ride our dangerous bikes to parks miles away. And back then, not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that! Today they get a trophy just for showing up!

The idea of a parent bailing our asses out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law and the police officers! And knew their names, as they were usually friends!
Now, they get sued if they arrest little Johnny who just happens to be high on drugs and robbing a convenience store.
And teachers could actually discipline us without getting sued or fired.


Despite everything we endured, Our generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. But we had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all! ....Congratulations to all my friends that survived that what in today's terms would be considered a dangerous and unhealthy time.

But, what did we know, we were too busy having fun, spending quality time with our parents and friends. And, I wouldn't trade it for anything.

The real litimus test would be that although we(people around my age) are surviving pretty well with all the technology and new rules of the new world, but could today's generation have survived in ours the way we grew up?
Think about it!
 

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The one thing not mentioned here is that Dad, or Mom, tanned my (our) hind end(s) when I (we) sorely needed it, without fear of repercussion from the neighbors or child welfare. An arse warming was never just a beat down and it's done. Nope, if you needed a lickin' then you needed to suffer it beyond and immediate reminder you screwed up. Extra chores, yard work for the elderly neighbors (our family community service program) or work with Dad instead of out playing with my buddies ensured a lasting memory of screw ups having consequences. Lying, cheating, swearing, smoking ... were all pretty bad. I never stole as I feared what would happen if I got caught. I was never involved (negatively) with the law, as my father prized a clear name.
 

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I grew up in the 50's and walked about mile through the woods on a county improved path to school. One year we had to escorted by an undercover cop because there was some crazy man with a gun running around the woods flashing elementry school girls. Ultimately he was shot dead on that very path. One of my childhood friends died at age 10 in an automobile accident when he went through the windshield from the back seat, if he had a seatbelt on he may have survived. Bad stuff happened then too. You talk so nostalgically about the "survivors", what about the millions of kids who died, some quickly, others not so quickly due to avoidable circumstances.

My wife and I raised our kids as safe as I could, drove them school, used lead-free paint in our house, made them wear helmets while riding their bicycles and just about everything else on your list. Heck, I even made them go to and complete college.

If born in 1900, average life expectancy was 47.3 years old

If born in 1950, average life expectancy was 68.2 years old

If born in 2000, average life expectancy was 76.8 years old

If born in 2016, average life expectancy was 81.2 years old

It might be hard for some, but if you look closely you just might be able to detect a trend in the above data.

There were many creative people who made major contributions to dramatically changed the world who were born before 1950. Including the likes of Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford, Albert Einstein, Alexander Gram Bell, Nikola Tesla, Alexander Fleming, some unknown cave person who planted the first seed for the purpose of growing food, some unknown cave person who harnessed fire, .............and the list goes on and on.

What exactly was your point?
 

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I grew up in the 50's and walked about mile through the woods on a county improved path to school. One year we had to escorted by an undercover cop because there was some crazy man with a gun running around the woods flashing elementry school girls. Ultimately he was shot dead on that very path. One of my childhood friends died at age 10 in an automobile accident when he went through the windshield from the back seat, if he had a seatbelt on he may have survived. Bad stuff happened then too. You talk so nostalgically about the "survivors", what about the millions of kids who died, some quickly, others not so quickly due to avoidable circumstances.

My wife and I raised our kids as safe as I could, drove them school, used lead-free paint in our house, made them wear helmets while riding their bicycles and just about everything else on your list. Heck, I even made them go to and complete.

If born in 1900, average life expectancy was 47.3 years old

If born in 1950, average life expectancy was 68.2 years old

If born in 2000, average life expectancy was 76.8 years old

If born in 2016, average life expectancy was 81.2 years old

It might be hard for some, but if you look closely you just might be able to detect a trend in the above data.

There were many creative people who made major contributions to dramatically changed the world who were born before 1950. Including the likes of Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford, Albert Einstein, Alexander Gram Bell, Nikola Tesla, Alexander Fleming, some unknown cave person who planted the first seed for the purpose of growing food, some unknown cave person who harnessed fire, .............and the list goes on and on.

What exactly was your point?
The point, I think, may have been lost in much of the exaggeration that went on. Of course it's all factual, but much of it doesn't speak directly to the pint, and that is that we now live in a nanny state. Young people need "safe spaces" because instead of learning how to deal with adversity, they are coddled and sheltered. They are not allowed to make mistakes and fail ... participation medal anyone? Part of life is falling down, yes sometimes getting Hurt, and picking yourself up on your own and doing it better the next time. By sheltering children from failure they lack the confidence that they can pick themselves up. They become dependent on having someone else make it better. This speaks to allowing our children to engage in sometimes risky behavior. Without the skill to mitigate risk in their Young lives, they lack the skills to mitigate risk as adults. They become dependent on someone else providing their safety.


I've always told my son that a**holes are everywhere and will be for the rest of your life. Learning to deal with a**holes at an earlier age helps him deal with them in his current life. No need to seek the safe haven of a "safe space". Racism, religious hate, bullying, whatever, he deals with it, doesn't go asking for help. He's more of an adult than young adults 5 or 10 years his senior.


Much of what is in the article needs to be reformed a bit for the times we currently live in, and the environment of violence and hate. Fists became knives which became guns. Times have changed and youngsters need to be aware of their exposure to danger. We need to keep our kids safe, but they can't grow up in a vacuum. I think that was the point.
 

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Won't we need to wait until the end of the 21st century to get an accurate read on those 2 items :grin2:.




i was born in 1943 and just went back to work as a machinist and am having a ball. Work 6 hours a day and put out as much work as the others do in 8 and have been complimented on it by management. And working is keeping me active and busy plus more cash coming in. Best thing I've done in 12 years since I retired.
 

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If born in 2000, average life expectancy was 76.8 years old

If born in 2016, average life expectancy was 81.2 years old

It might be hard for some, but if you look closely you just might be able to detect a trend in the above data.
Won't we need to wait until the end of the 21st century to get an accurate read on those 2 items :grin2:.
Expectancy, it's a big word, here's the definition.
But,

If you are born in the year 2000 wouldn't you have to wait until about the year 2085 (or so) to see what the life expectancy WAS if you were born in the year 2000?

If you are born in the year 2016 wouldn't you have to wait until about the year 2100 (or so) to see what the life expectancy WAS if you were born in the year 2016?

I guess I'm not familiar with predicting future life spans based on guessing vs. actual data. Feel free to enlighten me :grin2:.

'WAS' is the past tense of 'is', meaning, the life has already been lived and the expectancy was derived from that data.

I saw Texas in your sig so I typed all of this real slow :wink2:.

And Thank You for the hook-up on the definition of 'expectancy'.
 

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A new (2019) Toyota Corolla has a life expectancy of 300,000 miles. At 56,000 miles the rad hose blew and the owner continued to drive it for several miles. The engine seized. The expectation was 300,000 miles based on somewhat ideal, normal conditions. An expectation is just that, not something necessarily borne out in the long haul by some unforeseen event or altering factor. Based on the current advances in medicine and nutrition, and trended against averages in the past, and projected advancements, life expectations are, in fact, a best guess. If an asteroid hits the earth, then the best guess is out the window.


If I expect this is understood, and it is not, then the expectation is not met. It happens as sometimes expectations are unrealistic.
 

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i was born in 1943 and just went back to work as a machinist and am having a ball. Work 6 hours a day and put out as much work as the others do in 8 and have been complimented on it by management. And working is keeping me active and busy plus more cash coming in. Best thing I've done in 12 years since I retired.
Aaahh! How can I say this without offending anyone, especially you guilfoil. Why were you not enjoying being retired? Did you not replace your hours of work and toil with things that gave you pleasure? Here in Australia I will get the age pension at 66.5 and I am currently 63. I cant wait to retire. My parents (both in their mid 90s) go dancing three times a week and are out every day for lunch or at the senior citizens club functions and have been having the time of their lives since Dad stopped work at 60. There are so many things to do when you stop work that fill your day and should make you happy. I rode today with 17 of my retired friends who meet every Wednesday to ride and enjoy each others company.
Here the government wants to delay or get out of paying the age pension to people so there are good news stories (an oxymoron, I know) that show people that just love the fact that they are still working and plan to do so for ever (does anyone live that long?) None of them are bricklayers or furniture removalists by the way. My body is breaking down through years of hard labour and my mind is tired of other peoples ****e. I have never worked for pleasure but to earn a living to pay my way through life. Im sorry but I just don't get it, this desire to work on. To each his own, no offence meant to anyone.
 

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I'm all in favor of retiring when you are ready / able / and want to. I do understand guilfoils reasoning for going back to work too. Being a machinist is kind of a specialized trade and there are some jobs that people just really really enjoy doing, that sounds like his case. Also, we all spend most of our life going to work every day because we HAVE to. Going back to work after you retire is usually done because you WANT to. Big difference I think. It's his hobby but he also gets paid.
 

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But,

If you are born in the year 2000 wouldn't you have to wait until about the year 2085 (or so) to see what the life expectancy WAS if you were born in the year 2000?

If you are born in the year 2016 wouldn't you have to wait until about the year 2100 (or so) to see what the life expectancy WAS if you were born in the year 2016?

I guess I'm not familiar with predicting future life spans based on guessing vs. actual data. Feel free to enlighten me :grin2:.

'WAS' is the past tense of 'is', meaning, the life has already been lived and the expectancy was derived from that data.

I saw Texas in your sig so I typed all of this real slow :wink2:.

And Thank You for the hook-up on the definition of 'expectancy'.
Simple everyday expectations that may elude you:

If you work this week, wouldn't you expect a check next payday?
If you leave on a day trip on your motorcycle, wouldn't you expect to arrive at your destination around a certain time and then return home around a certain time?
If your girlfriend tells you she's pregnant, wouldn't you expect a baby in about 9 months? (Assuming she tells you as soon as she knows. Otherwise, subtract the lag time from 9 months)
When the new baby arrives, wouldn't you expect it to graduate from high school about 17 years into the future?
When you started working, didn't you develop and expectation as to when you will retire and what it will look like some 20 to 30 years in the future?
When you look at the ages that your grandparents and possibly your parents died, wouldn't you expect to live at least as long, if not longer given all the improvements in quality of life, nutrition, medical care?

So no, we can't actually see into the future, be we make predictions and set expectations about the future every single day based on the best available information. Sometimes we are dead on and other times not so much. But we carry those expectations until we get there.

"If you are born in the year 2000 wouldn't you have to wait until about the year 2085 (or so) to see what the life expectancy WAS if you were born in the year 2000?"
No, if you wait until they die, you will know what the life span of that individual actually was. It becomes a fact. Again, I refer you back to the definition of expectancy. :wink2:
 
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