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Does the Hypercharger Really Make a Difference?

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#1 ·
I recently added V&H Big Shots, PCIII & K&N high flow air fiilter. I have noticed a number of Xer's with hyperchargers. I have heard mixed reviews about them. I was wondering what has been the experience of people who have replaced the air filter with a hypercharger :?:
 
#2 ·
Can't really say it made any noticeable difference in the power of the bike but it sure looks cool and does provide more air to the engine. BTW it comes with a K&N filter too.
 
#3 ·
I agree with GreenVTX, defenitaly looks cool and draws attention. As far as performance I can not say. The same time I installed the filter I also did the de-smog. Bike runs much better!
 
#4 ·
Hyper is "show" not "go" unit. It's designed to look pretty but it's no huge difference over a stock box. If you modify your stock box and drop in a K&N you're probably getting about the same performance.
With that said, most airboxes are only going to account for a small difference in power on this bike unless you're blueprinting the intake, port/polish heads, etc so if you like the look then go for it - it's your bike. :D
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the feedback

I guess I will spend the extra on a bit more chrooome instead of the hypercharger. Thanks all for the feedback. :)
 
#7 ·
Bareass172 said:
Hyper is "show" not "go" unit. It's designed to look pretty but it's no huge difference over a stock box. If you modify your stock box and drop in a K&N you're probably getting about the same performance.
With that said, most airboxes are only going to account for a small difference in power on this bike unless you're blueprinting the intake, port/polish heads, etc so if you like the look then go for it - it's your bike. :D
Hmmmmmm 7 hp is a small difference?? LOL It is much better than a stock air box contrary to somes belief. Just by adding air to the motor will be the largest performance boost you can give it. I've done mods on my bike with base runs for every mod and the air was the largest gainer.

So I guess a 6% gain in hp is nothing huuh? Get Real!
 
#8 ·
DonG said:
Bareass172 said:
Hyper is "show" not "go" unit. It's designed to look pretty but it's no huge difference over a stock box. If you modify your stock box and drop in a K&N you're probably getting about the same performance.
With that said, most airboxes are only going to account for a small difference in power on this bike unless you're blueprinting the intake, port/polish heads, etc so if you like the look then go for it - it's your bike. :D
Hmmmmmm 9 hp is a small difference?? LOL
And where did you get that number ??
 
#9 ·
silvervtx04s said:
DonG said:
Bareass172 said:
Hyper is "show" not "go" unit. It's designed to look pretty but it's no huge difference over a stock box. If you modify your stock box and drop in a K&N you're probably getting about the same performance.
With that said, most airboxes are only going to account for a small difference in power on this bike unless you're blueprinting the intake, port/polish heads, etc so if you like the look then go for it - it's your bike. :D
Hmmmmmm 9 hp is a small difference?? LOL
And where did you get that number ??
Off MY dyno sheets.

Sorry had to look them up and edit the number .. 9 was after the next one.
 
#10 ·
i was told by a tuner that the HYPERCHARGER does not help performance...... he said it's not an issue of the volume of air it ''could '' allow ---
but the way it flows that creates a problem ---- the HYPER forces air to flow around a very tight corner - that is bad.......
 
#11 ·
With just a filter and housing change ? Its been posted here before about 1 1/2 HP from a filter change to K&N with an open air box, and that was from Big Larry . So if gained that many HP your filter would have to be pluged.
 
#13 ·
DonG said:
Ok, no sense in argueing the point you believe what you need to.. Take Care.

Don
I have to agree with silver on this one, I've never heard of anything like that - 9 HP??? Did you perhaps change the pipes at the same time? Add a manager? Because I've honestly never seen or heard of a gain like that from a charger... And I have tuners who will back that up, so it's not just me making stuff up.
 
#14 ·
Maybe IÂ’m the only one, but I would have installed the Hypercharger even if it reduced HP. I didnÂ’t necessarily do my mods for performance, but rather for looks and to make the bike a little different then the stock VTX. And letÂ’s face it, the hypercharger is about the most intimidating thing you could put on the bike.
 
#15 ·
rmilchman said:
And letÂ’s face it, the hypercharger is about the most intimidating thing you could put on the bike.
I'll agree with the above. After reading numerous posts, I believed that the performance would improve with the addition of this mod. It did to a limited degree on my bike. My a$$ dyno told me it ran a little stronger. My mpg averaged 2 mpg higer after this mod. By far, the biggest return has been in the reactions of others to the operation of the hypercharger.

If you're not on the edge, you're taking up space.......Howard Brinton, STAR POWER

REALBOB :D :D :D

03 VTX1800R
 
#17 ·
The yellow chopper VTX has a bad arse intake --- anyone know if its a production model? I havent been able to find any info on it other than the notes from the chopper build.
 
#19 ·
I don't usually reply to this kind of post but... From reading and some talking to the washington vtxriders who have hyperchargers, it is a small gain but not as much as a fully open (with k and n filter)air kit. I'm not going to claim to know anything though so here is some copied info.

"As for what you can gain from an air kit, this is copied from hondavtx.com:
Now lets talk about air boxes and breathing....Simply put the VTX loves as much air as you can give it and will reward you with strong HP gains. Currently there are many options for adding air to your VTX and I wonÂ’t list them all here. You can find their links on my Parts Link page and realize that I have not organized those links by product.

My personal preference is for the Thunder Manufacturing Tear Drop airbox with a K&N filter. In previous testing, this air box added 5 RWHP (SAE corrected) to my VTX. Big gains from more air."

and also:

For those running any K&N filter, I HIGHLY suggest that you clean these often. Mine was dirty to the tune of 2 HP at the rear wheel. With all the other things I had to do to get ready for the trip (180 miles one way) I forgot to clean my K&N.
 
#20 ·
I added PIPES first (no mgmt and no airbox change) then the Hypercharger came in (ebay for $110.00 PERFECT condition used :D ) I noticed the engine now BREATHES WAY BETTER over stock. Backfiring all but stopped completely. PCIII is in my hands now (not installed yet...also from ebay but NIB for $177.00 delivered...a guy purchased it and decided to go with the HPP so he dumped this one :twisted:) Will not install it till next week just B4 getting it dynoed. I will do a Before and After and post if anyone is interested?

SEAT of Pants dyno says my baby LOVES this combo. I also used the NEW engine breaking procedure found here:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Cause I KNOW what these guys are talking about and agree!

I now have 730 miles on the bike and 2 oil changes in 3wks.
 
#21 ·
Brand X said:
I recently added V&H Big Shots, PCIII & K&N high flow air fiilter. I have noticed a number of Xer's with hyperchargers. I have heard mixed reviews about them. I was wondering what has been the experience of people who have replaced the air filter with a hypercharger :?:
The Hypercharge will make a noticable improvement over a stock airbox. However, I doubt there is a significant increase in HP over a fully moded and opened up stock box with K & N filter. The Hypercharger does look sweat though.
In theory, given its design, if values were taken in actual driving conditions instead of on the dyno, I feel you might see a more significant increase in HP over the moded stock box. The Hypercharger tries to simulate the design characteristics of a ram air system on a car. If the vehicle is moving at a high rate of speed and thus air pressure is present on the intake of the Hypercharger, you are essentialy forcing air into the engine as apposed to a passive use of air based upon cyclinder vacume being produced. This is all in theory mind you. I am not sure the Hypercharge does much but it for sure doesn't do any less than any other type of intake and looks better than most in my opinion. Mike
 
#22 ·
HANDLER said:
In theory, given its design, if values were taken in actual driving conditions instead of on the dyno, I feel you might see a more significant increase in HP over the moded stock box. The Hypercharger tries to simulate the design characteristics of a ram air system on a car. If the vehicle is moving at a high rate of speed and thus air pressure is present on the intake of the Hypercharger, you are essentialy forcing air into the engine as apposed to a passive use of air based upon cyclinder vacume being produced. This is all in theory mind you. I am not sure the Hypercharge does much but it for sure doesn't do any less than any other type of intake and looks better than most in my opinion. Mike
What you're not taking into account is a couple of things here that are a portion of what I base my opinions on. The hyper has a big ass drain slit in the bottom, so any "ram air" affect it might get from riding is lost right out the bottom of the box.
Also - forcing air into an airbox is NOT always a good thing. Depending on the design of the box it can create a "venturi effect" and actually take some air from the engine by creating a vacuum. If you don't believe this ask some folks who have run certain versions of the modified stock box - if you modify the box the "wrong way" (which is kind of a crapshoot) then you could end up hurting more than helping the engine. This happened with Lee in the past - he posted about it when it happened.

I'm not trying to steer anyone away from a charger if they want one, I said above - buy what you want - I'm just trying to make a statement based on some experience and knowledge. When it all comes down to it, it's not my bike or my decision. :wink:
 
#23 ·
Bareass172 said:
HANDLER said:
In theory, given its design, if values were taken in actual driving conditions instead of on the dyno, I feel you might see a more significant increase in HP over the moded stock box. The Hypercharger tries to simulate the design characteristics of a ram air system on a car. If the vehicle is moving at a high rate of speed and thus air pressure is present on the intake of the Hypercharger, you are essentialy forcing air into the engine as apposed to a passive use of air based upon cyclinder vacume being produced. This is all in theory mind you. I am not sure the Hypercharge does much but it for sure doesn't do any less than any other type of intake and looks better than most in my opinion. Mike
What you're not taking into account is a couple of things here that are a portion of what I base my opinions on. The hyper has a big ass drain slit in the bottom, so any "ram air" affect it might get from riding is lost right out the bottom of the box.
Also - forcing air into an airbox is NOT always a good thing. Depending on the design of the box it can create a "venturi effect" and actually take some air from the engine by creating a vacuum. If you don't believe this ask some folks who have run certain versions of the modified stock box - if you modify the box the "wrong way" (which is kind of a crapshoot) then you could end up hurting more than helping the engine. This happened with Lee in the past - he posted about it when it happened.

I'm not trying to steer anyone away from a charger if they want one, I said above - buy what you want - I'm just trying to make a statement based on some experience and knowledge. When it all comes down to it, it's not my bike or my decision. :wink:
Bare, the drain hole in the back/bottom of the box is large enough to dispurse water but is very small in comparison to the size of the intake. The CFM of air entering the intake of the Hypercharger must be by pure physics much greater than the air leaving the box via the drain hole.
I'm like you though, not trying to stear to or away from the Hypercharger. To be honest, I wish folks would stop buying them. It used to be a real novelty to have one, now everyone has one. Now I have to try something new and different. And I was just getting used to all the babes I was starting to attract............ :) your pal, mike
 
#24 ·
Bottom line is TASTE...since no evidence anywhere about the Hypercharger is posted about it having ILL effects on a bike. It certainly DOES breathe better than the stock box. I bought it for:

1.) Breathes better than stock box (cause its a K&N).
2.) LOOKS


As far as a babe magnet...well just lastnight I took the new bike over to a friends house (he just bought a 03 Retro yesterday cause he LOVED mine..and for the price :D ) his girlfriend was hugging me pretty close when I took her round the block!! BWAAAHHHAA hope he doesnt see this post LOL.
 
#25 ·
I too put the HC on my bike because I like the way it looks. I did have an opened up modified stock airbox with the K&N filter in it. After I took that off and put on the HC, it started running very rich. That tells me that the HC doesn't get as much air than my previous setup. If you look at the K&N filter for the stock airbox, it has much more surface area to breath. The HC doesn't actually do anything unless you are going from a stock airbox with a stock filter. It does however look great and impresses folks when they see the butterflies a flutterin"! I am not going for the fastest or most powerful bike around. And I do like chrome!!! :D JMO