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Has anyone actually used this? Besides the two terminals for the starter there are also 2 smaller connectors or the original solenoid, but only one on the MaxPower. Do you need to use both wires?
The second small wire going to the Honda solenoid also goes to the side stand switch and the clutch switch. My guess is if you use the MaxPower with only one wire going to the coil then the body of the solenoid is taking the circuit to frame ground and will bypass the previously mentioned switches. Pretend it's a Harley and remember to bring the side stand up and pull in the clutch when you start the bike.
 
The second small wire going to the Honda solenoid also goes to the side stand switch and the clutch switch. My guess is if you use the MaxPower with only one wire going to the coil then the body of the solenoid is taking the circuit to frame ground and will bypass the previously mentioned switches. Pretend it's a Harley and remember to bring the side stand up and pull in the clutch when you start the bike.
Yes, I think you are correct. I guess this is more of an emergency fix than a permanent one. Its great to know you can do this in a pinch.
 
Just to add to the mix.....Here's what I found with the help from BigBad. Yes you could have a bad solenoids. A bad switch isn't or should I say most likely wont cause the symptoms you had IE the run-on starter.
Yes by all means test the solenoid. In most cases it is cause by a voltage drop cause by a bad or a improperly charged battery. This can happen through a combination of things such as;
Clean and tighten you battery connections. I recommend using a 1/4" drive socket. I have found that using a screwdriver does not get the terminal tight.
Bump up you idle. This was my problem. It seems when I use my High Way lights (yes I want to be seen) I was draining my battery.



How Solenoids Work in Automobiles

<LI id=jsArticleStep1 itxtvisited="1">When the car is started, voltage is sent from the battery to the solenoid. The pull-in coil is capable of drawing a lot of current and generating a large magnetic field, and is the primary drain on the battery. This creates the magnetic force that draws the plunger into the core and completes the circuit between the terminals of the battery. The movement of the plunger causes the starter's drive gear to move into mesh with the flywheel ring gear. This is what causes the motor to turn. The hold-in coil generates a much weaker magnetic field and holds the plunger in place. This saves battery power and reserves most of the battery's life for starting the car

Common Solenoid Problems

<LI id=jsArticleStep1 itxtvisited="1">Most vehicle starting problems are a result of a lack of current moving through the large magnetic coil of a starter solenoid. (When you hear a clicking sound but the engine does not turn over, the battery does not have enough life to magnetize the large coil and pull the plunger into place.) I'm not talking about this. Several things can cause this. In most cases, the battery does not have enough charge to power the solenoid because the headlights or other electrical component were left on and drained the battery's charge. Battery drainage can also be caused by short circuits in more severe cases. A lack of charge reaching the solenoid an also be caused by corroded battery terminals, loose cable connections or a damaged positive battery cable
In our case welded or burnt contacts.


 
Will using the Standard heavy duty solenoid affect the safety features of the kick stand, neutral switch etc...?

John.
we would have to know if there's any difference in current flow to the coil of the OEM solenoid vs. the Standard heavy duty one. If the Standard draws considerably more current then you are putting additional load on the kick stand switch, clutch switch and neutral switch and the contacts may overheat.
 
I installed a Ford solenoid on my 03 C 1800 today. I used part number F491 and it bolts right up. You do have to make some minor mods on the wiring but I think this should cure my problem. I opened the holes on the lugs just a bit more to fit over the bigger terminals. One word of caution is that you do not hook up the ground wire using this install. I know that takes the crank/ nuetral safety feature away and I will wire in a mod to correct that in the future. What ever you do dont hook up anything to the I terminal. That terminal goes hot when the solenoid is activated and would not agree with a ground hooked up to it.
 
I looked up the SS-608 solenoid at Standard Motor products. No current specified for the coil, no resistance either.
http://www.standardbrand.com/Online Catalogs-eCatalog/Content.aspx

On the internet I saw some with Insulating sleeves on the mounting tabs????? Grounded winding??? Not sure but seems like it. I could not read a tag under the coil bolts.
It is for continous service---connecting a RV coach battery to the alternator for charging or connecting a large load or sub-circuit.
http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Motor-Products-SS608-Ignition/dp/B000CQ1XDA
 
Ford relays have negative ground mounting is why it can get funky.

Honda does not.
I agree and when I installed the ford solenoid I left the ground wire disconnected. I understand I have bypassed some of the safety features the ground offers and will likely design a fix for that. A simple normally open relay in line with the X1 side of the solenoid with the ground closing that N.O. relay should return all of the safety features. Not sure if I will bother with it though. The ford solenoid was 10 bucks at the local auto store. I have started the bike several times today without any issues so I can safely say the ford solenoid install works.
 
I am suspecting that the bikes here that are wiping out the stock solenoids (in about ten starts as one poster stated) are not having solenoid problems, but rather compression release problems.
There is no reason for a machine with new battery, new solenoid to wipe out a solenoid in ten starts unless there is an underlying problem... Most likely compression release.
 
I am suspecting that the bikes here that are wiping out the stock solenoids (in about ten starts as one poster stated) are not having solenoid problems, but rather compression release problems.
There is no reason for a machine with new battery, new solenoid to wipe out a solenoid in ten starts unless there is an underlying problem... Most likely compression release.

I know for certain that is my problem as the compression release on my front cam is gone. I cut it off several years ago because it was loose and broken. Some day I will upgrade my heads and cams but for now what I have will have to work.
 
What is compression release? How would that affect?

John
A compression release is a device to release some of the compression pressure during cranking to take some load off the starter and associated circuitry.
It is located on the camshafts.

If the compression release is not working, it make the engine extremely hard to crank, thereby greatly increasing the load on the starter, which in turn greatly increases the amperage load on the starter circuit and causing the relay to stick from higher amperage than it is rated for.
 
No modification required

My 2002 1800c relay was dragging and then getting stuck open, luckily i was able to stop it by repressing the start button to deactivate. I picked up a Max Power 334019 relay. Perfect match to mount and was able to attach the ground(green) and hot (yellow)to the new posts (no wire cutting or slicing) just pushed the existing factory female connecters direct on the threaded posts. $13.99 at Auto Zone. The whole job took all of 3 minutes. Starts right up problem solved.
 
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